Fyrenn
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1 hour ago, Landohammer said:
Today's warcom just revealed a bit more. BoC can be taken in other Chaos armies, and they gain the relevant keyword/allegiance abilities. But they are limited to 1/4 and don't contribute to battleline.
Not sure if BoC could take Khorne units, but I think most competitive BoC guys were piggy-backing on other allegiances anyway. So this makes that possible, at least to some degree.
yeah, what usually happened was people were using BoC battalions in Chaos God armies....
so for example, you can use BoC, then use the brass despoilers battalion, which gave them all the Khorne keyword. The Faq clarified you could use this battalion in either book, so functionally you could run an all beasts or mostly beast khorne army.
What you could not do was ally in Khorne if you kept it as a beasts army. That means if you are using the BoC Allegience stuff (like herdstone) there was no way to ally in Chaos God stuff... even if you took the same batallion. You'd just have a bunch of khorne marked gors, and the like.. but no allies like StD.
Interestingly, the new coalition is BETTER for Khorne then before; Brass Despoilers locked out casters (so no shaggoth or Shaman) as well as most of the monsters. There is nothing stopping Khorne from having a Khorne marked Chimera now, if they so chose... and so on.
EDIT: what they lose, of course, is cheap battleline ungors and gors and the like, which might be sad.
I would wonder if some of those options might be useful to Slaanesh?
It would be very different for Beasts to suddenly allow coalition gods. it would be cool, as it opens up a lot of new options in the terms of things we couldnt' even ally in before and frankly would open up the book to a lot of new possibilities.
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1 hour ago, Landohammer said:
Its basically the new way that they define situations such as fielding Stormcast in cities or STD/BOC in Chaos armies and vice versa.
Honestly i'd be surprised (in a good way) if there was a reciprocal option for BoC. They're generally not for the chaos gods, so they couldn't ally them in the past. While it would be neat to allow yourself to mark your army and then take a coalition of that mark god stuff, it wasn't allowed before even with the battallions, so I doubt it.
More likely, BoC is just going to get coalition with things that have "Beasts of Chaos" as a keyword. .. which I think amounts to just the Slaangors (which have the keyword, but weirdly never made it in to BoC list). They used to be taken because they have it, but if I understand 3.0 rules that's not good enough now, so a coalition would be the way to go to allow it.
Ofc, coalition with all monsters of chaos or something would be sweet, but I doubt they're thinking that critically about options...
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4 minutes ago, Austin said:
I think I missed something. The coalition rules are in the GHB?
no, they'll be in the faq presumably. but the khorne article specifically talks about it.
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9 minutes ago, Chikout said:
Yeah I noticed that. Clearly they are getting ready to post the FAQs but there may be a bit of craziness in the mean time. I remember foreign language FAQs going up earlier in previous versions.
Or...
I fully expect this development to be GW telling us BoC players that the faq errata for this year is no faq errata for you this year 😛
Set expectations low, and all that.
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24 minutes ago, novakai said:
pretty sure they confirm that FAQ would come days after the launch of the box (july 3rd)
so most likely next week unless they change their minds
I believe they said 'within days of launch', which theoretically could mean before or after...
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9 hours ago, tupavko said:
So... I actually had a game after a year or so since I stopped using them and moved to playing Skaven and Throggots. I played a friend withs Slaanesh... My list was:
WARLORD: 385
Shaggoth 185 (Amulet of Destiny; Lightning-fast Monstruosity; Sundering Blades )
Shaman 100 (Titanic Fury)
Shaman 100 (Tendrils of Anthropy)REGIMENT: 720
Shaman 100 (Knowign Eye; Vicious Stranglethorns)
Maybe this is a better 3.0 question, but how are you getting so many spells and so much equipment? I had thought we only get one spell now (not one per wizard) so to get a second spell we'd need to use the enhancement for it?
So basically there would be on Command Trait, Artifact, and Spell - and then you can get either an additional artifact or spell with the warlord battalion?
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So... someone was mentioning several pages back that the FAQs for 40k came out a couple days after indomitus. Do we have any inkling if that was unusual or the norm? What are the chances we see anything before the Dominion release? Does the timing of the GHB make it less likely to have a FAQ sooner?
Just trying to temper expectations, would be useful as literally everyone in my group is unsure how to proceed with list building / purchases / painting projects atm.
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19 minutes ago, TimeToWaste85 said:
100% agree, the Dragon Ogor Shaggoth is the #1 model (IMO) across the entire range of active warscrolls that needs to be updated. Skaven stuff does need it, but at least they’re the right “size”. The Shaggoth is the same-ish size as regular D-Ogors. It should be Kragnos sized. Hence the joke that somebody screwed up Kholek Suneater.
I don’t play Beasts (only chaos army I don’t have). I would buy a Dragon Ogor army if they gave us a proper Shaggoth/Kholek update.My hope/expectation is they make a dual (tri?) build Shaggoth kit. Combat Focus, Magic Focus, and named character.
While I don't expect it to be mega gargant sized, I would really use that kit as inspiration for what they could do. It would likely headline a BoC release.
The only worry i'd have is I don't know if they'd do 2 centerpieces, and I think Morghur is something i'd expect to see.
I always expect one new unit of some sort and some unknown monster or monstrous infantry type. I just don't see GW ONLY recasting things, I think they want to offer some new units for the new unit hype.. but I don't think we need a ton of new stuff.
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1 hour ago, KingBrodd said:
Heck even update the Chaos Spawn whilst they're at it.
I actually still enjoy that Chaos Spawn kit. I know it's not for everyone, but think if they made a new one, they'd take a lot more of the easy customization out and make me do more work for customization. I bought like 3 or 4 and put each type in a tacklebox, and it really allowed imagination to fly without the need for extensive greenstuff modeling and conversion skills
I wish I could use them more, if anything. I always look at my BoC as a more of an 'eldritch horror / goat of the woods' sort of theme. 🙂
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Question... i'm not sure if this is worded exactly the same as 2.0 or not. But I noticed this about paired weapons in the 3.0 core roles (pg 14):
"Some models are armed with two of the same weapon (often referred to as paired weapons). When this is the case, the Attacks characteristic for the weapon will already take the extra weapon into account, or the model will have an ability to represent the model dual-wielding"
I'm that guy who was always asking about slaangors, so i'm just wondering if this is something that is worded the same or not as before; it seems that Slaangors do not adequately fit the description from the book. IE; they do not have an ability to represent they are duel wielding, yet the attack characteristics do not indicate dual wielding either (because the unit champion has it (singular) and uses the same attack profile.
Might be pointless, but I was wondering if that's something worth sending to the rules people for clarification? Or if the assumption is ... yeah, the attack profile represents dual wielding. the champion is just extra awesome and fast and attacks in a whirlwind as if he had two blades in one hand!
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30 minutes ago, Reinholt said:
We've tried like 10% of this. You have to get Honest Wargamer on a hardcore campaign to ban Slaanesh in all tournaments, get the LVO to stop allowing them, get this forum itself to lock the entire Slaanesh forum except for a single "how to fix Slaanesh" thread, spam Youtube and GW's twitter and social media with comments about them, and literally pay for billboards (cheaper than one thinks!) talking ****** about GW for being so dumb they can't fix them.
I used to work at an investment bank. What we do is downright polite and kind; nobody is getting a mob together and storming GW's lobby and breaking everything.
Edit: Yet? To be clear not recommending the mob but also didn't want the internet to dunk on me by having this happen just after I wrote it so heading karma off at the pass.
I mean, that's all well and good but it's also not always practical.
This is a miniature game, so it's hard to really cause a public outcry in the same way as other, much more controversial stances by companies/individuals/etc. I think it's fair that the Slaaneshi folk did try, and it would be very surprising to me if GW didn't know about this.I think the frustration I see is, as usual, a lack of communication. The weird thing is many companies are VERY social savvy and nip these things in the butt, because it is, in general, good practice to do so. If anything, the posts earlier about how they were more responsive two years ago is even more worrying because of a decision to ... not?
This might be comparing apples to oranges, but my wife worked for Jetblue (an Airline here in the USA) for many years - when I went to their corporate office, they literally have a huge board with twitter that shows what people are saying. They have folks in a department that respond pretty quickly if there are issues - like if you've ever heard of someone who was an influencer sort or someone with a lot of twitter followers saying that a plane was delayed and everyone is hungry and suddenly they send over 50 pizzas... that sort of thing.
I don't think it's the rules, or the points - and the other poster even said - it's VERY possible they did get the comments / feedback and just haven't implemented them yet until the faq. It's mindboggling that they decide it's better to ignore it / not get in front of it / let outsiders (influencers) review the points without the base explanation. Even in January, they released a little missive saying "sorry guys, we aren't doing points in the Jan FAQ.. I know some of you needed it or expected it, but we don't have enough to go on so it'll have to wait. Don't worry, we'll do one for GHB!)
They could easily have done a similar one here - "A lot has changed and i'm sure you have a ton of questions! We will be rolling out a general and battletome based faq's as soon as possible to address rule changes, point adjustments, and so on".
My logic for saying something more then "A faq is coming" is if they know no points are going to be adjusted in the faq, they really shouldn't leave the community to have half upset and half saying 'wait for the faq'. If that's going to lead to disappointment, just say so - We're in a new edition and it's going to take some time to adapt. There will be additional faqs as needed throughout the year as we all adjust. yadda yada.
It's not, in my opinion, difficult - nor is it costly - and while some people will never be satisfied, a little transparency, without being all that transparent, can go a LONG way to make a lot of people just feel.... heard?
Ah well. Not a rumor. Best i've seen on the forum in the past day or so was the person who said the faqs all came out 2 days after the indomitus preorder. if we had a huge amount of faqs coming next week, man, that would be welcome news.
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7 minutes ago, Maddpainting said:
Going off the numbers blades vs spears, you are talking about 3 Damage on average with a 30 block and getting 25 in range vs 5+ saves. 17 Blades in range is equal damage in a 30 block (for re-roll 1's).
Is 3 damage really worth it? no lol. Ungors are not there for damage at all, we don't have buffs like all other horde armies/units.
fair enough! that's basically what I was looking for. thanks!
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So... after GHB, I just dont' want to keep waiting before I make some decisions on my building... so here's one I was hoping to get some help with.
I'm not after a wildly powerful list (obv ;-))
With reinforcements/the new edition/the new costs, does anyone have any opinions about ungors with hand weapons vs spears? What units are going to be worth reinforcing? Is there a place for an ungor horde?
Thanks!
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ahh... i thought you saw something in GHB. so it's more likely to have multiple spawn giving a buff to multiple units as opposed to an all eggs situation. i mean, i can live with it. sounds like there will be more units anyway.
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7 hours ago, Vaporlocke said:
Well boys, just when I think we can't possibly get any worse... Here we are.
Cohesion, melee, and even our speed advantage all took hits. Running as a horde gone. Marked battalions gone. Desolating Beastherd gone. I'm sure there's more. Edit: Gavespawn CA nerfed, bestigor took an indirect nerf with the lowering of unit sizes.
But hey, at least now our table perforce completely matches our lore performance. We wouldn't want to accidentally win and confuse people, would we?
What is the change to the Gavespawn CA? Where did you see the new unit sizes etc?
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1 minute ago, BaylorCorvette said:
Do you have GHB to see point increases or just Dominion Warscrolls?
yeah, i mean - i kinda don't mind waiting on content - BUT - because I'm really, really trying to make some purchase / building decisions, knowing the points in GHB would really help... so if it's something that is out there, and someone would be willing to PM me... i'd really appreciate it.
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Wow, we're only a week from preorders already. I wonder when some people will start getting a look at the GHB. I did hear one person on the facebook group somehow saw the pointing for HoS and they were largely unchanged from the book while most other things went up (no Slaangor changes, sadly)
I think the GHB is so much more important than ever this year. I've paused like a ton of potential projects because I have no idea what anything is going to cost, if there are going to be unit size changes, etc.
Hopefully more info will start coming out soon....
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Now all we need is that really awesome Slaangor buff * and things will be looking real good! 🙂
*I know of no Slaangor buff 😞
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7 minutes ago, TimeToWaste85 said:
The only thing I’m struggling to understand is if a 3man unit (greater than 25mm base) needs to be in a triangle shape in order to retain coherency. Which would be stupid. Other than that, feels like WHFB returning with ranks. We used to fight only front rank, unless you had spears (aka 2”-3” reach). The more they change ApS, the more it feels like we’re getting WHFB back, but on round bases.
coherency applies over 5 models, so you're okay.
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9 minutes ago, Infernalslayer said:
No idea, i hope they do, though my FLGS is still waiting for my gravelords "Lauka Vai" preorder which they did not receive from their supplier on release date, while they received enough Blood knights.
If you're not getting your stock directly from GAW and instead one of the big distributors - the lag is really bad. I think we just got a belakor model in and the crimson court. It's usually a big cluster where you can't assume you're going to get anything you preorder, and its very rarely, if ever, on actual release date... it's a big ol' fingers cross because even tho you preorder, it's always overallocated... etc.
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2 minutes ago, TheMuphinMan said:
one is "or" for an extra command point/artifact but is just 2 units and any hero while the other is "and" but its 2 heroes with one being less than 10 wounds
isnt' warlord a commander, subcommander and troop... while the other is a commander and two subcommanders?
so they both need one above 10 wounds and one below 10 wounds. the only difference is one adds a troop and more options.
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15 minutes ago, Feorag said:
interesting new battalions
I'm most interested in "enhancements" do we think this refers to additional relics/equipments from the battletome, or generic ones in the book? It sort of sounds like it could be either or both...
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4 minutes ago, Grimrock said:
Not sure where the image is coming from, but is there any confirmation on whether normal battalions are legal in matched play?
While you're at is - as an addendum, is there a cost to these new battalions? or is it where you more or less just assign your army in them? like an organization chart sort of thing?
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4 hours ago, Maddpainting said:
Yeah.... Dragon Ogres and all Cavalry type units too are in danger now.
cant you do mixed in dragon ogors? just have the back rank halberds?
The Rumour Thread
in Age of Sigmar Discussions
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I can't imagine they'd remove the tzaangors now, especially after just updating them in GHB. I think more likely they're going to make new god-gors coalitionable in the future.
This DOES explain Slaangors, and frankly I think having all the god ones in the book would be unwieldy. I think tzaangors are already so established, they wouldn't remove them until they have some sort of non-god based alternative, so my hope would be if that's their plan, they have a replacement waiting in the wings.
Anyway, I definitely think they could go in that direction for their new battletome, whenever that may be. I think the eratta for now will make "Beasts of Chaos" coalitionable, so slaangors get back in (it's the only thing that benefits now, but future pestigors, etc, would be covered as well.