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Played against a Praetorians army yesterday with my Petrifex Elite. Won the objective game but he did not lose a single unit. I did because I sacrificed my riders and my liege to delay him - which worked out perfectly. So as I already suspected, a Praetorians army with Katakros is just as hard to kill as Petrifex while easily out CPing any other Legion and having pretty solid debuffs. In the end Arkhan won me the game by being mobile and using protection of nagash perfectly to grab an objective on a far, unguarded side of the board. I will probably stick to Petrifex because I prefer Arkhan over Katakros but I can imagine competitive Praetorians builds with Katakros, Zandtos and some Crawlers.

Nice paintjob, the bases look great! And you‘ve gone for almost exactly the same scheme as everyone painting petrifex elite 👍🏻

Got triggered by the fact that its Arkhan‘s personal Legion, but i dont like the color scheme and the trait/ca. Its OP in some very rare match ups, ok in most match ups and completely useless in others. While the artifact is easily the best out of all the sub-factions its not enough to make we want to play it. I‘d rather write my own background and use petrifex ruleswise on the table

The only problem I have with everything except the Crawlers is they need to get to combat to become effective while the Crawler does its damage from t1 and the core is imo mostly set on mortek and deathriders. From that perspective Immortis are the only other unit that can compete as they prevent your heroes from dying to alphastrike lists t1. Someone mentioned that its not worth 200 points to keep a boneshaper alive when you just could have brought another one but its worth to keep Arkhan, your Liege and your Soulmason with +1 wound artifact alive. Edit. Ok and probably the Harvester in the same manner as they can keep Mortek Guard alive i guess, but then again why wouldnt you just kill the Harvester first when its just a 10 wound model.

I took 1 unit with spears to make use of retreat and charge from the battalion (-1 rend from petrifex is sufficient) and 1 unit with swords to operate on their own or to screen so i can get a countercharge. Or to break really defensive units. And mostly because of optics, wanted to have both.

Yeah i just double checked it. Lots of new rules to learn, its quite unusual since its either worded unmodified 6 or X+ in other rules where + (or higher) means it can be modified. What a shame, no 2+ exploding hits for spear kavalos riders then, but 4+ will suffice.

You basically deny charges on key targets or make it so that if they charge they get surrounded and killed for that. And as mentioned above it doesnt keep you from moving as you just need a U-form wide enough for the model you want to wrap to just fit. Core mechanic imo

They are all kinda based on holding multiple objectives but i dont know if I want to discuss deeper tactics with someone who doesnt see the obvious reason behind bubblewrapping things 😛 Joke aside, I need more practice games but so far the list performed „rock solid“ hehe, you know because of petrifex.. oh I think i‘m done for today

I dont know about the Harvesters tbh, are they really as good as they look on paper? I did not lose enough Mortek Guards so far to feel that i need the resurrection and i feel like the Crawlers really help against those synergy pieces

tbh they are probably the best unit in the book and i‘ve considered playing 2x 10, but i didnt like the aesthetics of whats left after that. Even 5 of them were enough to contest objectices on weaker flanks and they are so incredibly fast

I‘m gonna play this list in a local tournament soon: Petrifex Arkhan Liege Kavalos, General, Godbone Soulmason, Gothizzar Cartouche 30 Mortek Guard 2x5 Kavalos 2 Mortek Crawler Kavalos Battalion Bone Tithe Shrieker 100% winrate so far, with the Mortek Crawler being the most efficient so far (tried the same core list but with morghasts/ immortis guard before)

It says 5+ so it can be modified.

+1 on that, though I‘d rate praetorians equally strong to petrifex if you are taking Katakros. +1 to hit / save almost across the board combined with his other abilities will probably win you as many games as an additional rend as a CA will. Then again I think Arkhan > Katakros and i dont want to spend 860 points on 2 leaders, so I prefer petrifex.

I played the Archai lately and i find them pretty strong. Very mobile and good output/ defense. They can destroy a weak flank on their own by turn 2. Even their pointscosts are absolutely justified, cant understand why people would say otherwise. I personally switched to Immoris though for better hero protection. For me Stalkers are the most bland out of the 3, because all they do is done by everything else in the army, just less efficient but with more versatility.

Sorry if that sounds harsh, but who are you to judge whats undercosted or needs a nerf? Some random guy on the internet thinking he knows more about the game than anyone else. This is coming from some other random guy on the internet so take it with a grain of salt. I think OBR, even played as petrifex elite is a perfectly balanced army. I had 2 relatively easy games against a competitive army and 2 absolutely close games against a less competitive list, playing the same petrifex list against both. It‘s just a very tanky legion that plays the objective game pretty safe. Nothing wrong with it when you are still outnumbered most of the time.

I enjoy petrifex elite very much ruleswise. Good saves and potentially high rend are the things i like the most in AoS so i am pretty happy they put both into one legion. Made the choice easy. For everyone being concerned about their new army „getting a bad reputation“ - chill. I just recently played against a „tripple bloodthirster all fight first list“ and if it wasnt for petrifexes‘ rerollable +1 save i would have lost for sure because they just would have murdered my 30 Mortek Guards easily. There will always be competitive (always good) and situational choices in sub-factions. Take Fyreslayers for example. I have never seen a different lodge than Vostarg or Hermdar on the table. For OBR it will be praetorians (Katakros/Zandtos) or petrifex. If you want to be special play a different legion or create your own but if you want to bring the strongest possible list decide between those two and have fun.