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2 hours ago, Sception said:
OBR are kind of slow,
It might be because I run katakros as my general, but i've found OBR to be deceptively slow. On paper, yes we are. But if you have the RDP to spend we can be quite quick across the board with the 7' move + run.
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12 hours ago, Finklelord said:
- I see in a lot of 2000 point lists people don't use the Liege-Kavalos often. Is the reason for that because we have better options?
- Is it worth having a 6 man unit of Stalkers/Immortis Guard or stick to 2 groups of 3?
- Is a heavy Deathrider army viable? Not looking to be super competitive. I enjoy their models a lot
- Are the endless spells worth taking? I don't see many people use them
- Is Arkhan and Katakros a must take for higher point games? They seem amazing but I feel like it leaves little room for other units.
1. I'm not sure what you mean, it seems a lot of lists run a liege-kavalos. He's definitely a good unit, I feel. I think maybe some of the more recent tournament lists ran Nagash and a whole mess of either guard or deathriders.
2. I've had really good success running a squad of six stalkers. They devastate anything they can get to.
3. I think they are viable. I've seen lists that ran a large core of deathriders that seemed to do fairly good!
4. People usually don't seem to have space for them, I think. They are definitely good if you have the spare points!
5. Arkhan, I like his model but the times I used him he never felt very "powerful" if that makes sense. Katakros however, has been absolutely worth the points in my 2k games. I don't think you necessarily need him. But it's hard to argue with all his abilities and the 5 RDP he brings.
My 2k isPetrifex
Katakros [General]
Liege-kavalos [god bone armor]
20 mortek guard
20 mortek guard
5 deathriders
Harvester
2 Crawlers
I haven't gotten to test this version out yet, but previous iterations did well for me, in my local meta at least!
As far as your 1k list goes, I think it will be fine. Stalkers or Harvesters are pretty devastating at low point ends. -
I think I may be needing to pickup some new brushes and was wondering, what brand of brushes do you use?
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20 hours ago, Nasrod said:
I want to share the product of a lot of brainstorming and theorycrafting. It's an attempt to use Arkhan as a durable, +2 anchor for casts/unbinds while still maintaining the trademark durability of Petrifiex Elite lists to capitalize off his amazing regeneration passive for as long as possible. That durability is vulnerable most of all to ranged mortal wounds primarily generated through spellcasting; so the tl;dr is: "Protecting Arkhan protects the army."
I actually super like this list a lot. I need to pick up a second catapult to finish off my "competitive" build, but I could run yours too if I picked up some boxes for immortis guard. I may have to add that to my shopping cart whenever I can actually order minis again haha
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40 minutes ago, 5kaven5lave said:
Yet another question, this time about Katakros:
His Supreme Lord CA only gives +1 to save for (not keyword?) Mortis Praetorians - does that mean that bit can only work if you take that sub faction? Cheers.
He only gives mortis praetorians the +1 to save, but all of his other abilities will be applied to your army no matter what subfaction you take (like the +1 to hit bubble).
Also keep in mind that Katakros also has the mortis praetorian keyword so his save becomes a 2+ when he uses Supreme Lord
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So haven't posted anything here for awhile. Mainly because I wasn't happy with my scheme so after getting some inspiration I've been working through my minis again.
Though to be honest the new scheme doesn't really fit the name, but I don't think it would be appreciated if I made a separate thread for the same army so here we go!
The new scheme is heavily inspired (ripped off) from the Eternals of Amonkhet. But I wanted to keep the cold/ice bases for them.
Haven't taken a shot of my guard yet, I have ten done but I'm kinda wanting to get a full squad of 20 done before posting them. But I do have a harvester and soulmason to tease you all with
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2 minutes ago, 5kaven5lave said:
Thanks man, this is super helpful and what I will run as default. There is also a Stardrake in my local meta which worries me as three instakill bites could well break my coherency in something like that. Would you keep that formation and hope you roll enough 4+s to fill in any gaps? Run them as a 4x5 block instead so you can lose 3 and keep coherency in the back rank? Have my Morteks fight after the Drake so I can pile in afterwards to regain cohenrency? Any extras ideas from anyone much appreciated.
Ah yes the stardrake. I admit I had slightly forgotten about that unit (local stormcast player doesn't run one, and I haven't taken my reapers to a tournament yet) so if you're going up against one it might be smart to change up how you position the harvester. I mainly run that formation to better protect it against flanking attacks since it's such a "Kill this thing first" target.
The harvester off to the side of the block, or behind them may work? That way you can still regen units when they die. You could also bring the harvester around after the guard are engaged, though i'd still be worried about it getting flanked by a scary unit. Though I suppose if that happens you'd be able to smash them with the guard. I apologize for not having much experience against a star drake
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On 4/17/2020 at 2:55 PM, 5kaven5lave said:
Ok, so next Harvester question. The ability to recycle only works if a model dies within 3”, so where would you place a Harvester relative to a block of 20 Mortek? At one end where you’re taking models off from? Ta!
I've seen some people (and how I usually use them) have the harvester in the middle of the mortek guard ranks sort of like
MMMMMMMMMM
MMMMM HarvsterMMMMM
As the harvester can reach over the front line mortek to smash enemy units.-
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On 4/8/2020 at 9:55 AM, Heijoshin said:
What do you guys think? Again, I am most worried about that turn 1 alpha shooting and I feel against shooting its all about the healing, so do lean towards the Boneshaper. Although the potential to have the liege ride with the deathriders is pretty tempting also.
How are you guys handling the inevitable overload of shooting?What if you started your first turn (assuming survival happens) you use Endless Duty to give both the catapults an additional attack? Seem like it would be pretty great. Then you can have the liege move up the field to support the riders?
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Making some progress on my Amonkhet Eternals inspired Bonereapers! This time, the harvester
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6 hours ago, Sception said:
, they don't rate masons due to the lack of casting bonuses, but if you take a formation than one of their artefacts can provide just such a bonus, etc. But then again, they're a lot more experienced than I am so they're probably more right than I am wherever we disagree, and they make a lot of good points otherwise.
I'm curious on the Soulmason. His ability to easily give our rerolling 1s seemed like a pretty sweet thing, since he can potentially cast it several times. I wonder what they suggested taking instead? I typically have been running Katakros+Soulmason lately.
Edit: Plus it's my only source of dispells haha. Interesting that they don't seem to rate the Stalkers very highly -
1 hour ago, Woarr said:
I also think of getting katakros + arkhan instead of nagash which are also 20 points less. They may have similar power level while having more variety. What do you think about it?
I also loved harvester model and bought one with a mortek box. Is it wasting too much point for one model if I use nagash?
I rolled with Arkan + Katakros for awhile, and it was definitely a powerful combination. Though lately i've been running katakros + soulmason in order to get one more 200pt thing into my army.
I think a harvester with Nagash might be a bit too much. He can bring back 3 wounds/models on up to five units. Plenty durable. -
21 minutes ago, Sception said:
so be sure to grab as many morteks as you can with your leftover points, and a couple support characters so you have at least a few relentless discipline points to work with.
I think i've seen some lists that ran with a bunch of deathriders instead of guard, those seemed to perform pretty well? Though you're points about it coming down to if your opponent being able to deal with Nagash or not is pretty spot on I think.
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3 hours ago, Woarr said:
Also, is nagash good enough for his points? I want to get to 2000 points as fast as I can and nagash takes a really high point for it's real money cost. Is it wise to play him just for his points? Bonereapers are already low on numbers and he makes it even worse so he has to be really good to make up for it and I don't want to lose every game just to save some money.
I think several of the lists that made it quite far in the recent tournaments used Nagash, i'd have to look them up though.
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3 hours ago, Woarr said:
Why is there no love for harbingers here? Aren't they really good for rushing enemy shooters before they can do anything?
Stalkers are very slow compared to harbingers and also lacks - 1 bravery for the enemy so I think holding objectives with mortek and harvesters while harbingers are wreaking havoc on enemy lines at the start of battle with their 9'' move and 3d6 charge is a good strategy.
I'd like to hear opinions because I am very new at this game and just bought ossiarch battletome so I will build my army according to advices.
For me it's that the Stalkers, while slower, have reroll charges ability (our only source) and can unleash 15 attacks with -3 rend and 2 damage easily, so they'll typically obliterate anything they touch and are 10 points cheaper.
Though to fair towards the harbingers, I haven't tried them yet. -
On 3/6/2020 at 6:34 AM, alterdeqip said:
Hi all, any thoughts how to deal with Tzeench changehost on flamers? 2 drops so he can dictate whos going first and mass shooting from flamers. I just got nothing on the board at the beginning of 3rd turn
I'm also pretty curious about this, one of my local players is going to be picking up Tzeentch and has already mentioned running changehost
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On 2/25/2020 at 12:01 AM, Obeisance said:
I'm gonna try out Katacross as I'm yet to play him.
I will say that Katakros is a monster of a support piece, he brings a ton to the table. Though i'm not sure if he's absolutely worth his points, but he does FEEL really good to use.
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So I have two lists that i've been toying with. The first one i've been playing a few games with and it seems like it's doing well, but I have a second i've been thinking of trying out just to see if I can work more "punch" in. I've kind of been avoiding running big three blocks of guard, but I might think about it since the first list has six drops and the second has seven.
Leaders:
Arkhan the Black
Katakros
Battleline:
20 mortek guard
20 mortek guard
5 deathriders
Others:
6 Stalkers
Endless Spell
The other list is
Leaders:
Katakros
Soulmason (godbone armor)
Battleline:
20 mortek guard
20 mortek guard
5 deatheriders
Others:
6 Stalkers
Behemoth:
1 CrawlerEndless Spell
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1 hour ago, Dala said:
Hey, I saw that KO and Tzeentch got their FAQs recently and I remember someone saying OBR should get one as well at the same time but couldn't find anything. Are we still expecting this to happen soon or does it mean GW just doesn't feel like OBR needs a FAQ yet?
We got our FAQ a few months ago iirc. Unless you're meaning another one?
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5 hours ago, Heijoshin said:
Ah, thanks for the clarification. The way it is worded made me think that the "great content for every fan of Warhammer Age of Sigmar" part was the siege rules, and them specifically highlighting death and chaos for the rules etc was because something cool and specific for us was coming.
Oh well. I mean I guess I will wait to see what the contents is, but as it stands I doubt I will get the book. I understand that OBR has just released, but a part of me did expect them to get something in there, seeing as they are the other major player in the book. Or is that just me?I saw somewhere on their facebook (i'll try and track a screenshot down later, i'm at work) that OBR during the first round of the siege get +1 to their saves.
I'm sure you can imagine the salt that flowed through the comments. -
7 hours ago, NoMaDhOoK said:
OBR is already weak against shooting, and -1 save makes that even worse.
I went against a Tempest Eye cities army last weekend, and if I was any legion but PE I don't know if my units would have been able to reach his gunline without being obliterated. Having to charge into his handgunners cost me 10 mortek guard before they even got into combat. It was a really messy fight, even if I eventually came out on top thanks mostly to some teleport shenanigans with Arkhan (And my opponent managing to roll just bad enough to leave arkhan with 1 wound left)
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20 minutes ago, robpro said:
Managed to get my army fully painted in time for LVO, this is what I ran -
I really love your bases!
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So it seems like there's quite a bit of us at the LVO. Hopefully if they bring the nerfs they don't overdo it
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3 minutes ago, Scgt said:
Alot of people are using it seems Petrifex elite, crematorians n I've seen stalliarch lords....has anyone tried the Null Myriads? I'm very curious making a liege kavalos-1 to hit n -1 bravery with the baleful blade.
Petrifex is considered the best, due to the +1 to save and also the -1 rend legion ability. I would assume Null Myriad would be pretty strong against a spell caster heavy matchup.
AoS 2 - Ossiarch Bonereapers Discussion
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I dunno, maybe? You raise a fair point. The winds are out of my sails a little with this news. My local meta is pretty heavy on the shooting and I only really felt confident I could weather it with PE