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    AoS 2 - Misthåvn (Broken Realms: Morathi) Discussion

    in Cities of Sigmar

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    2 hours ago, Crashnarf said:

    I've just received my (french) Broken Realm book and I already have a question: I don't see the specific magic in the  Misthåv's page...I have the artefacts, the narcotics, but I see no magie.

    Is it a bug or else?

    (Har Kuron has his own magic for exemple)

    Idolators (S2D) don't have artifacts, and Misthavn doesn't have spells - second especially strange with trait giving your wizard additional cast. Looks like bug on the face of it.

    AoS 2 - Kharadron Overlords Discussion

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    3 hours ago, japaricio said:

    Can you link to more detalied information?

    You can find more in dude's twitter mostley , ie. how ELO was calculated and some discusion on skill expression. I think he was on Honest Wargamer some time ago.

    https://twitter.com/jpganis/status/1305855855640940546

    https://twitter.com/jpganis/status/1306534854063017987

    3 hours ago, japaricio said:

    I think everything I have seen is about how many players do we have, and not how well we are performing in tournaments against real threats.

    I don't exactly know what you are getting at, care to clarify?

    AoS 2 - Cities of Sigmar Discussion

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    6 minutes ago, Evantas said:

    1. A fleetmaster and a pack of 40 cosairs with twin swords works decently but not exceptionally. 

    Yeah, last changes that further lowered cost of executioners pushed out corsairs almost completely IMO (in competitive sense). 40 Corsairs are only 20pts cheaper than 30 Executioners, and need Fleetmaster and 1 CP to roughly equal fighting power of draich wielding Aelves. And Execs have better save in melee. Corsair would offer only incresed survavibility vs shooting and MW as they have 10 extra guys. Even if you think about Vitriolic Spray Corsairs will deal 22 dmg vs Execs 20, so neglible difference

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    AoS 2 - Har Kuron (Broken Realms: Morathi) Discussion

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    3 hours ago, BeeTee said:

    I am also worried about the assassin being a waste of 60 points...  but the model is fantastic.  If it ends up garbage, I can take those and the 20 spare and paint up a scourgerunner chariot.  
     

    Assassin is 80pts tough, so the same as one chariot.

    The thing that he can pop out out of 1 wound unit can be useful (for Hero keyword mostly). I kinda like him in Anvilgard where he could take Venomfang Sword which gave him overall 2d3 MW on 6+ to wound.  In other Cities there are some tricks as well, not really in Har Kuron unfortuantely. Maybe as general where he could bring his trait where it's needed without actually moving there by himself? That would be probably better in list with more infantry then yours.

    AoS 2 - Kharadron Overlords Discussion

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    4 hours ago, Phasteon said:

    Long story short, I dont think KO need to be adjusted with an obvious weakness like that, because there are plenty of armies with those AoE MW options, Kroak being probably the most evil one. 

    I know Teclis have one, who else?

    Having weaknesses, bad matchups is given, if army has 1-2 bad matchups and say 15 favorable it definitely would need adjusting. How much KO need adjusting and where (Zilfin mostly perhaps?) is another subject, but having (one) obvious weakness isn't really compelling argument. Slaneesh was weak vs shooting, it still needed downgrade.

    Kroak OTH is example of unit that definetly needs adjustment.

    AoS 2 - Kharadron Overlords Discussion

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    42 minutes ago, Beliman said:

    But still, my question was about what buffs, nerfs  and what people want to see in Broken Realms  and the Big FAQ.

    Yeah let's go with that:

    Ironclad goes up in points (FAQ): it is very efficient unit when it comes to effects of triumphs/aethergold, CP, transport effciency, and effects of endrinworks compared to other ships which isn't fully reflected in it's cost.

    Oustanding questions get resolved(FAQ): things like Emergency Ventplates still are not resolved, I paid for book GW give me working product

    WLV is nerfed somewhow (FAQ): even before KO I heard lot of negativity about this spell, KO just made it worse with 100% reliable delivery system

    Skywardens boosted (Broken Realms): if they could f.ex add +1 to hit on pikes in FAQ, not waiting for Realms book it would be even better, but probably book is the earliest we could hope for change, which leads me to:

    Barak Nar and Brokk Grungsson (Broken Realms): as it stands both are somewhat lackluster. With rules of Nar not really giving you enough tools to choose it over other ports, and locking you into both artifact and trait (both kinda underwhelming). Brokk also suffers in comparison with generic hero who can take command trait and artifact and unlock skyriggers as battleline. So some rewrite here would be nice. Narrative pretext for rewrite could be centered around shocking discovery Brokk himself made in Greywater Fastness on his Grand Tour.

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    AoS 2 - Kharadron Overlords Discussion

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    28 minutes ago, Beliman said:

    Nerfs: Fly High

    First how would you do that? Second why, it would be absolutely one of worst decision I can imagine when it comes to changes to any battletome. If it is unreliable (activates on roll) you can't really plan anything and playing KO is just gambling.

    Bastiladon and now Leviadon variable saves

    in Rules Questions

    Posted · Edited by Boar

    3 minutes ago, azdimy said:

    Do you roll all your saves at once and are considered to be at the save you have at the beginning of the attack. So if the monster take 10 wounds. Roll 10 dice and save at you top braket save value if your monster had no wound on it?

    This one, mechanically all unit's attacks are resolved and then damage is allocated to unit. If another unit attacks later, than that 2nd attacker could face different save profile.

    *For purposes of damage negation you allocate wounds one at a time, sometimes it can be different here as f.ex. Throggoth can have artifact that stops working on roll of one, so that would be rolled one by one. But that's different problem

     

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    AoS 2 - Cities of Sigmar Discussion

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    1 hour ago, Trickflo said:

    With the new sorceress and 2 units of dreadspears\bleakswords coming out I'm curious what people's opinions are on dreadspears vs bleakswords they seem pretty close to me but I'm not really sure

    Very similar, in smaller numbers Bleakswords are slightly better, but if range of spear starts giving you additional attacks it quickly gives slight advantage to dreadspears. Dreadspears have more annoying attack sequence, with 6 on hit giving additional rend, so after hits you have two separate dice pools.

    Drusa's Battalion takes only dreadspears tough if you think about using it. If this is not of any concern than question is about numbers 10 clearly bleakswords, 30+ dreadspears. Also if there is enough terrain, enemy has small units or there are other concerns regarding movement this can give dreadspears slight boost, as they won't lose attacks so easily.

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    AoS 2 - Daughters of Khaine Discussion

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    15 minutes ago, Ser_namron said:

    listening to honest wargamer they said those new battalions are only for the new temple. They also said MOrathi might be 2 drops because its 2 models. Im not sure if either of those are true though. Seemed like speculation to me, and the morathi being 2 drops seems nonsensical. 

    Looking at screens from YT, there is note that Zanthar Kai has access to Temple of Khaine rules  and can include those battalions. Morathi is listed as two units, just taken as sets which is similar to underworlds bands - so 2 drops.

    The Rumour Thread

    in Age of Sigmar Discussions

    Posted · Edited by Boar

    2 hours ago, JackStreicher said:

    Maybe it would be enough if you simply COULD NOT target any solo characters (neither with spells nor shooting) that benefit from "look out sir". And maybe a -1 to hit when you target big one-man units.

    Doubt it, it would just move everything not other direction IMO, back to dozen heros buffing large block and if you can't do that you die. But it's just a tought.

    1 hour ago, SleeperAgent said:

    I love the double turn. If it didn't exist AoS would just be fantasy 40k, which would turn me away easily since 40k is boring.

    And I would love double to be removed, but not by changing it to 40k system as I think you are right. It's not binary choice however and many different systems are in use, even in GW games.

    I don't want to get here too much into all that, it's rumor thread after all. And especially discussions about priority crop up regularly.

    EDIT: Yeah and there is Mod notice even

    The Rumour Thread

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    2 hours ago, LuminethMage said:

    Maybe they have to tone down a few outlier combinations,  but I’m not sure if shooting is generally too good

    Difference between poison and cure is often in dose right? So inherently shooting (or magic) is fine, but when you cross certain threshold we are going to see problems. And double turn on melee armies is mitigated to some degree by alternate activations vs shooting (magic) where only one side kills other.

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