[The Rumour Thread]

personally, i say update all the books whose allegience abilities are printed in the generals handbook first so they dont have to keep reprinting them every year and it frees up space for other content

[AoS 2 - Idoneth Deepkin Discussion]

is there a way to make an Ahkelian King a wizard? like one of the artefacts from malign sorcery or something? i would like to use magic but dont want to break my theme of Ahkelian units only

[The Rumour Thread]

22 hours ago, Grumulzag said:

So I know it's a bit of a longshot but I've seen some rumors about older Battletomes getting updated this summer (with new rules, their own terrain pieces, endless spells, etc.) and I'm wondering if the Beastclaw Raiders were apart of these rumors or whether I'll have to wait a while before an update?

i dont know where the rumor came from or how valid it is, however if we assume its true, i wouldnt expect any army that had alligence abilities printed in their battletome to get updated, with the exception of maybe khorne due to Wrath & Rapture (the changes from that will no doubt be applied to the other daemon units making the whole book near useless due to the amount of erratas). id expect the following battletomes to get updated:
-Everchosen (rolled into Slaves To Darkness with the rumored Darkoath release)
-Skaven Pestilens (rolled into a combined Skaven book like Beasts Of Chaos)
-Fyreslayers
-Ironjawz
-Flesh Eater Courts
-Seraphon (i expect a retcon of their background making them phyiscal living creatures once again and removing the daemon keyword)

this is just speculation on my part, but it makes sense to update these before things like Sylvaneth, Beastclaw Raiders or Kharadron Overlords

[AoS 2 - Idoneth Deepkin Discussion]

forgeworld models are not fair comparisions (they may have got better at rules writing lately, but theyre generally either undercosted or overcosted)

[AoS 2 - Daughters of Khaine Discussion]

27 minutes ago, ballstowall said:

I'm thinking about picking up DoK, however, I keep hearing people say they're op. Is there a way that I can make a toned down army list? I'm thinking about getting the battleforce box. In addition, I want to bring in dark elf allies for a more fluffy list, but won't have the money to do that until down the road. 

instead of going heavy on Witch Elves, you could try the Medusai units, theyre still powerful but arent op

[The Rumour Thread]

the steam tank is crewed by humans though?

[AoS 2 - Idoneth Deepkin Discussion]

im not sure id agree with anything being overcosted in the battletome (maybe Reavers i guess, i see no reason to take them when the Allopex and Leviadon have better shooting, though i do like the models), maybe the turtle could drop 20pts just so id have the points to be able to run 4 😛 
eels and volturnos i think are undercosted though (volturnos would be fine if his command abilitiy couldnt be stacked though), one thing i think is inconsistant between the 2 types of eels though, according to the background, the eletr- whatever creates the Ishlaens ignore rend (which is always active) and the Morrsarrs spears (which is once per game). maybe they should tone done the Morrsarr ability but no longer once per game? makes no sence why one is all game and the other is once per game

the sharks, id like a points decrease if taken in units rather than indivauls, but otherwise i think theyre fine. they play like Leviadon-Lite

[AoS 2 - Idoneth Deepkin Discussion]

ive played around with 2x Allopex and 2x Leviadon in a list, and although i dont think id run 2 Leviadons again, i like how they did.

if people arent taking them because 'eels are better' then i think that supports my thoughts that eels need to go up in points

[AoS 2 - Stormcast Eternals Discussion]

i like Anvils for the attacking in the hero phase, it also triggers their mortal wound ability

i wont run big units as i feel the risk of losing 100pts models to battleshock is too great, a big unit is also going to be focused down as much as possible so will take casualities (i dont scions them as i want their spells active). 3 small units is kind of harder to focus down. using command points to auto pass battleshock isnt an option as i need the CPs for the Anvils ability and without battalions i dont get extras

[AoS 2 - Stormcast Eternals Discussion]

so since AOS2 came out, i love the Dracolines and ive been trying to basically run a cat spam list. ive had mixed results.
generally they shred most things they touch, but against mass shooting lists or something like nighthaunt that ignores rend, they just sort of fall apart.

ive experimented with 5 units of 3 with the mounted Lord Arcanum and 4 units of 3 with 2 mounted Lord Arcanums, but the best results ive had was from something like this (i dont remember the exact list)

Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals
- Stormhost: Anvils of the Heldenhammer

Leaders
Lord-Arcanum on Celestial Dracoline (240)
- General
- Trait: Deathly Aura
- Artefact: Soulthief
- Spell: Stormcaller
- Mount Trait: Pride Leader
Knight-Incantor (140)
- Spell: Chain Lightning

Battleline
5 x Judicators (160)
- Skybolt Bows
- 1x Shockbolt Bows
5 x Judicators (160)
- Skybolt Bows
- 1x Shockbolt Bows
5 x Judicators (160)
- Skybolt Bows
- 1x Shockbolt Bows

Units
3 x Evocators on Dracolines (300)
- Lore of Invigoration: Terrifying Aspect
3 x Evocators on Dracolines (300)
- Lore of Invigoration: Terrifying Aspect
3 x Evocators on Dracolines (300)
- Lore of Invigoration: Terrifying Aspect

War Machines
Celestar Ballista (100)
Celestar Ballista (100)

Total: 1960 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 0
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 101

it still needs some tweaking to really work, but it did alright compared to the prior lists ive tried

[AoS 2 - Idoneth Deepkin Discussion]

Allopex and Leviadon, what do people think of them, why are the sharks rarely seen?

[The Rumour Thread]

dwarfs and khorne dont do magic, people just need to accept that and move on.

those armies should however be compenstated by either being able to ignore the affects of magic or have an easier time of shutting down magic
i dont buy the suggestion that khorne is compenstated for lack of magic via their melee abilities

also, i dont play competitively so please help me understand why Overlords are concidered to be so bad? because the only change im really aware of is the Thunderers warscrolls changing to reflect the actual box contents so you cant build units of 5 mortars anymore

[The Rumour Thread]

not every faction needs to, or should have access to magic and endless spells though

Kharadron Overlords, Dispossessed, Fyreslayers, Khorne (except for Archaon) all lack magic without allies and none of them really should have magic. instead they should have ways of dealing with magic (dispossessed banners ignoring spells for example)

its the same with shooting, not every army has access to it, and some just shouldnt

[The Rumour Thread]

in regards to the rumour of updated battletomes coming for older 1st edition books, why are people expecting Kharadron Overlords to be one of them?
im aware people think theyre bad right now, but as that is a newer book with allegience abillities etc i wouldnt expect to see them getting anything at the moment.

the books i would expect to be updated are those 1st edition books without alleigence abilities/ghb alleigence abilities such as Everchosen (basically confirmed due to Darkoath), Flesh-Eater Courts (again, basically confirmed with Carrion Empire), Fyreslayers, Skaven Pestilens (beasts of chaos type Skaven book), Ironjawz.

Slaanesh are basically confirmed to get a book with new models and id say at this point Khorne needs a new book due to the scattered rules and faq/erratas making the current book almost useless (daemon warscrolls at least are due to be updated to match the new rules from Wrath & Rapture-all the Hell Blade weapons)

[AoS 2 - Idoneth Deepkin Discussion]

Ishlaen Guard compared to Blood Sisters (same points cost, both battleline if a certain general is taken), i feel the guard are too cheap
-4+ save ignoring rend (3+ if charging or 1st turn-alleiegnce ability) vs 5+ (with 6+ damage save-allegiance ability)
-3 sets of attacks 3 (4 for champion),1.D3 at 3+ 3+ 0 1 (2 damage for one of those) vs 3 at 3+ (2+ for champion) 3+ -1 1 and an addintional causes a mortal wound on 4+ (3+ for champion)
-move 14" plus fly vs 8"

im not sure the points are fair you know? the eels just look better in every way (except no mortal wound output)

[AoS 2 - Idoneth Deepkin Discussion]

8 hours ago, Asore23 said:

Hi everyone!i was think of maybe start playing Idoneth, but i heard most of the lists are eel squads spamming, is it true? Are namarti that bad? And the sharks?

I was thinking about buing the christmas army box but so many players from where i play said it's no  worth it. Do you have suggestion for a noob?

Thanks!

ive only played one game using Deepkin and most games against them were eel spam.

my limited opinion is:
-Thralls arent bad but unlike eels, are weak to mass shooting (i had a unit of 10 kill 3 retributors, but my unit of 20 got decimated by shooting before it could do anything)
-i feel like maybe you have to focus on either Namarti or Ahkelian, mixing them i think limits what you can take and maybe isnt the best option for trying to win.
-eels are just insane haha. both playing with and against them, i feel like something isnt right. i dont know maybe theyre too cheap. Volturnos command ability makes them completely broken (although only during High Tide) especially if you use it multiple times

i always liked the models when they came out. i bought and painted Volturnos and was planning to do a sea creatures llist with all the eels, sharks and turtles. but with how good the eel spam lists seemed to be, it sort of put me off them and its taken a while for me to get past that