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So, for endless spells, what would people like to see? What would they be/look like and what would their abilities be? ......maybe something like whirlwind of change....has effects similar to vortex beast, where you will a dive and consult a chart for each unit it passed across
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On 4/4/2019 at 4:17 PM, TheadTheOgorSlayer said:
I hope they didn’t choose the rule s of engagement, seraphon have advantage on these objectives 😂😂😂
first off you are gonna have to decide early on whether you want to kill the slann or not, as it will most likely take two turns of spells. The list itself is pretty good from what ive seen (although the ogroid in a ranged list seems out of place, however since you will most likely be fightin* up close against heroes for objectives perhaps will work out fine. If taking him for his spell I’d suggest the magister as a cheaper and better version of said spell utility wise. Of course less damage and wound still but them the breaks for potentially tying up units. Plus if he runs skinks they will be forced to retreat hilariously enough as they almost definitely can’t do enough damage to the spawn)
what exaclty is the seraphon packing. Are they going skinks or saurus? Do you know specifically the hero’s he has? How focused on summoning is this player?
We played duality of death....where only heroes or behemoths take objectives....So it started off well with me rolling high casting rolls and him failing unbinds....I screened well until I had to move heroes to take objectives and I only partially screened the LoC who was killed top of turn 3 by the deepstriking ripperdactyls. He got them on the LoC bottom of turn 2, but then he got the double turn.....and got his bastillidon in range of the LoC and objective 1.....which meant he now has objective 1. I was so demoralized that I didn't know how to come back from that...as I didn't have the second objective, but my magister was near the second objective and was going there but kept him screened with pinks....GS was screened by other pinks but on a balewind. ......he had objective 1 and I had summoned blues on objective 2.....he got a razordon into my blues....I was so concerned about screening my 2 remaining heroes that it cost me....cause I should have charged 1 unit of pinks and magister into the razordon to get the magister on the objective.......I also should have pulled some pinks away from the GS earlier to screen the other side of the LoC...😕. So.....yeah.
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Have a 1250 point against seraphon playing duality of death, where only heroes/ behemoths can take objectuves. He has 3 heroes and a deep strike unit....I'm thinking to take
GS w/familiars ...general, arcane sacrifice...bolt of tzeentch
Ogroid...treacherous bond
LoC ...Mark of conjurer....tzeentchs inferno
10x pinks....treason of tzeentch
10 x pinks ....unchecked mutation
Balewind
Cogs
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4 minutes ago, SleeperAgent said:
What if the KA gained a deep strike ability?
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40 minutes ago, Reezark_SP said:
Spell lores definitely need some updating. I love how all of the Skaven's war engines can be overpowered for a risk. I think it would be cool if each of our spells had a normal and a risky version when casting. I would also like to see more Artifacts of Power that play to our strengths. There are so many in our current book that trigger when you kill a hero or monster in combat and that's not really our thing. More Artifacts or General Traits that make casting more interesting would be nice. Regular Tzaangors need to be streamlined. Currently a unit with all the upgrades is a pain to resolve in combat.
As far as capturing the feeling for the lore fact that Acolytes are hiding among the cities and armies how about something like this?
Acolyte Cults have spies everywhere. They use deceitful magic to disguise themselves as fellow soldiers but on the eve of battle they will abandon their posts to join their comrades.
At the start of the battle, choose one friendly Kairic Acolyte unit and 1 enemy Battleline unit. Remove D3 models from that Battleline unit and add that many Kairic Acolyte models to the chosen Kairic Acolyte unit. Do this for each Kairic Acolyte unit in your army. The same enemy batteline unit cannot be chosen more than once. Change the die roll from d3 to d6 if the Kairic Acolyte unit contains 20 or more models at the start of the battle.
that's pretty cool I think . Love to see some abilities like that
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35 minutes ago, TheadTheOgorSlayer said:
We need updated spell lores. I’d like less things to rely on keeping fate dice... what kind of sick freak wants us to not use are best resource? Or perhaps that is just tzeentches ways... lol. I’d also want more wizard relics and less melee ones tbh, I know daemon princes can be cool with them but honestly just have 2 or 3... we have like 6 melee relics at the moment right? Along the lines of updated spell lores, some spells need serious looking at, the one that buffs heroes can up there bravery by one... like what? Who would choose that bonus 😂. Damage spells are fine as is in my mind, but we need perhaps some longer ranged ones that are less powerful but pay for that with more reach.
Our terrain piece should effect either casters or fate dice. Perhaps the ability to recycle fate dice like the cabal leader but for units in a bubble? Also I’d like more command abilities. We have one usable one and no reason to use cp on morale most games... like please gimme something for that other then the chicken GeeDubbs. Other then that general buffs to arcanite stuff to help against powercreep would be fine
for endless spells I want a tzeentch caster buff, a damage spell that turns people into tzaangor or spawn (perhaps it hurts everyone lol!) and a defensive anti spell one
also arcanites need more rules to represent a cult rising up. I’m thinking a flanking ability or formation to show they were amongst the enemy and exposed their true loyalties. We are genestealer cults fantasy style I wanna see more of that
love the concept of a cult rising up. New arcanites abilities and/or models would be cool. ALso, I don't see a lot of battalion choices that are viable currently.....multihost, changeshost, and maybe 2? covens....from what I see
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What is everyone wanting as far as updates this year? I'm thinking that a terrain piece would maybe be a flux cairn....it could buff friendly casters and hurt enemy casters......id like to see updated Fate Master and Herald on Disc models at least......endless spells that could cause chaos spawn, possibly.....maybe some more spell lores ......just my thoughts
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2 hours ago, TheadTheOgorSlayer said:
Slaanesh deserved it ☺️ I’m just glad all 4 chaos gods are getting goodies since AOS came out. We are also blessed with the endless spells needed to work well in this day and age. Battleline psykers and horror summoning is also very strong. And with marks we can fill in almost any blank! We aren’t op like we used too but I’d like to think this is the best spot for an army, not overpowered but still able to feel powerful doing what we do best. I do think arcanites should have access to more buffs and not rely on casters as much (although in large games the cabal is amazing sometimes, I love being able to abuse our look out sir spell on any wizard while still casting base spells and getting recycled fate Dice!)
i haven’t matched with death tho so I’m unsure how are casting measures up to the other best casting faction
I'm just wanting to buy new models and tzeentch themed endless spells. And I've played against skaven after their update.....they are nasty and I didn't fair well. ....could have been me. I'm not upset that slaanesh is getting stuff, just want more tzeentch stuff to burn money on 😁.
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Still waiting for the tzeentch update....endless spells and whatnot .....however looks like it's slaanesh release instead. Mixed feelings
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13 hours ago, Origin said:
The Designer Commentaries for the Malign Portent book states that you cannot cast endless spells you have not paid points for.
So in open play or narrative play you can use Vessel of Chaos all you like. Not so much in matched play.
However on the off chance that both you and you opponent have bought the same endless spell...
So I cannot find this . I have searched FAQ and the malign portent FAQ states that an ability the allows a model to learn or know a spell can't be used for endless spells unless points are paid......but the vessel of chaos ability does not allow the curseling to kniw/learn the spell (that is clean magic). So , if he doesn't learn or know the spell via vessel of chaos then he can unbind them cast it
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It has been said that the curseling can't use vessel of chaos ability to unbind/ cast endless spells in matched play, even though it is in the FAQ that he can.....I'm confused on this
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2 hours ago, mmimzie said:
One thing about tzneetch is I'd say it is one of the most difficult armies to play. You have to know when and where it is worth your effort to attack and really be on point with positioning.
For learning how to play well i recommend that you ask your friends to do kind of a double solitary game or to really communicate every move with one another. For example of you see your opponent doing something dumb that looks game losing you guys talk about that move before you go on. During you spell phase you can ask your opponent what unit he thinks is most important at the moment, before you start flinging spells, etc.
That's a good idea. I'll have to try that
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I haven't had too many good experiences playing tzeentch, and after review list ideas I came to the conclusion that it's me not the list....somewhat depressing. I have tried to learn how to play (experiencea painter but inexperienced player) and took me a while to get down the basics of game play. Now that I've gotten that down in trying to learn strategy, but not going well. Did/does anyone else have a hard time learning stategy? I'm trying to keep a positive attitude...as it's just a game.....but losing as much as I have is not making for a fun experience
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Im just sitting over here waiting on the tzeentch update.....chaos god of magic is needing some endless spells ....
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8 hours ago, Asimov said:
You should give the Bolt of tzeentch to one of your best caster the LoC or the Summoner, You will want to reliably cast it every turn.
You play 2*10 pinks so take the Pendulum to kill your owns pinks aiming for both units turn 1 and then make them come back with the 1 of your destiny dices with the bravery tests. You will get like 20 blues first turn, this help to bubble wrap and/or take control of objectives. You can use a fast caster like the blue scrib or the herald on disc or the shaman to project your blues far away.
Not sure about the vortex beast as I never tried it.
Eventually consider getting 6-9 Enlighteneds, they are really awesome for the point cost currently.Thanks @Asimov. With this list I've got 1900 points and I'm considering a few things:
1. Spend more points in endless spells
2. Swap out the vortex beast and Acolytes for 2 more units of pinks
3. Swap out the vortex beast for 1 unit of pinks and add endless spells
Just some thoughts. I like the look and abilities of the vortex beast ( and all things tzeentch). I played skaven last weekend and...... It was bad. Lol
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Needing some help/advice....newish player here and love the lore, look of Tzeentch...and the painting. But not fairing well when I play.....my current list is the following:
Lord of Change -
Gaunt summoner w/ familiars - general....Arcane sacrifice...tzeentch's inferno
blue scribes...fold reality
Herald on foot
Magister ...bolt of tzeentch
10x pinks ...Unchecked mutation
10x pinks ....bolt of Tzeentch
20 x acolytes
vortex beast
spell portal
Cogs
Balewind
I've noticed my problems are at least 2 fold: 1 I sometimes forget certain abilities or summoning (a lot to keep track of),_2 not familiar with objective based gameplay (I focus more on surviving and killing more models).
Appreciate any feedback
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Posted · Edited by MattyP
But I thought the the curseling does not know/learn the spell as he can only cast it if he unbinds it and not again.which means his ability ( vessel of chaos) does not let him learn the endless spell...unless using glean magic, which doesn't work for endless spells