Myrdin
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Somewhere deep in my heart I still keep hoping for Khorngors and Pestigors (wanted Slaangors, got meh Slaanbuls instead), Preyton and feral Manticore. New centigors with two separate warscrol profiles (one heavy melee, one medium ranged harassment unit). Replacement for harpies.
Since I dont see a full rewrite as something we will get unless a new book comes out (and even then unless someone competent who understands the army does it, its not gonna be worth jack), at least some new models and units with more up to date warscrolls would be nice to bulk up the roster and improve on some weaker sides of this army
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2 hours ago, Popisdead said:
Looks like,.. something... coming.
"Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment"
-Librarian of the Blood Ravens, Dawn of War
I dont apply this IRL, but when it comes to Beastmen this quote came true every single time I had a shred of hope for them in the last decade+ . Lets just say my expectations are non existant, so at best I`ll be pleasantly surprised.
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So it seems Beasts are getting cheaper and cheaper... while that is nice for sure, we really need actual rules update and warscroll rework, not just endless price cuts.
Link towards the new "Battlescroll" update from 21.12.2021 for all factions, pic below just for BoC
https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/XTPR7PzBSVcNAAOd.pdf
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Just make sure to not get your hopes up too much guys or the dissapointment will be a bitter one.
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What are your oppinions on Centigors and warhounds in this edition ?
Simply due to the Centigor price increase the warhounds appear better, but tbh unless they had a warscroll change I dont really see them being better.
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5 hours ago, The Red King said:
Do people want WiP pics of my shaggoth or just the finished paintjob? On the one hand I dont wanna spam but on the other yalls likes really motivated me to work on him faster.
Just do what you want. I dont think anyone really minds the WIP pictures at all. As long as there is visible progress so its worth posting I think anyone enjoys some plastic inspiration
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19 minutes ago, Nordrim said:
Atleast they didn't call gors and bullgors winners here.
Cheers
Pff that article was big load of nothing. "Oh look monsters are good now coz monsters are good now! Ooo Cygor can do well against spells and wizards" Uhuh, thanks Cptn obvious.
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Can someone link the article please? I wanna take a look at that utter hogwash, but cant seem to find it when going through GW main page.
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20 hours ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said:
Really, better Handgunners and Guard are all I want for Freeguild. Everything else still looks good.
But if I were to shamelessly wishlist, this is what I'd want:
Steam Tanks no longer have a damage table and random movement. Reasoning: They are comparable to the Gunhauler, and that thing does not have a damage table. The random movement really seems to be a holdover from Fantasy. Weaken the warscroll or raise the points if necessary, just make the tank less random. In fact, just clean up the janky warscroll and make it AoS 3 ready.
The regular Steam Tank is no longer "Single" and gets to form units of 2, 3 with Commander General. Expensive at potenetially 600 or so points, but it would make a steam tank squad a fearsome unit to build around.
I'd also love to see a few new steam vehicles. Like a troop transporter, or self-driving artillery to replace the old Helblaster/Helstorm kit. Or add an giant Steam Tank that acts as the Ironclad to the regular Steam Tank's Gunhauler.
Ah... It's fun to dream, but realistically, just making the Steam Tank marginally good would be enough for me.
They Are Billions final wave music started playing in my head while reading this comment! Embrace the STEAMpunk! *___*
But you made some very good points. I think the random movement really is no longer necessary and the damage table could potentionally go away, or just be reduced in effect a bit, cause its not like the STank is super overwhelming right now.
While I love the sound of a Steam Tank squadron unit I think it would be a bit too much. But cool idea anyway. If we are talking about more steam vehicles, rather than tanks and transports I would like to see something more fancy and unique. We are after all in High Fantasy setting so making something super cool is tottally an option.
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2 hours ago, The Red King said:
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Now THIS is a Shaggoth!
I wonder if we get updated sculpt anytime soon, but yeah this is an amazing conversion job.
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2 hours ago, Zeblasky said:
Huh. One weird thing, that for Seraphon Cities are an ally, but for Cities Seraphon are not. This is kinda weird. I thought that with older rules if one faction gets other faction as an ally, it goes both ways automatically. Otherwise it would have been great to get Kroak into Cities, but he's 430 points, damn.
Its not that unique of a quirk honestly. This has been the case for Beast of Chaos since forever... You can ally into the 4 God factions and Slaves of Darkness, but you cant take any allies from them (just from Slaves) into your own BoC army sadly.
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13 hours ago, Rhubarb said:
As someone who was working on a mostly Freeguild infantry list, it doesn't seem like there's a place for Guard in 3.0 anymore. I like my horde of armored chaff humans gosh dammit!
I feel ya. FG Guard were the most reliable chaps to get the job done and not cost an arm and leg points wise. Always enjoyed using a nice big blob of them.
Worst is, same with Dark Elf infantry. So there is really no viable replacement for cheap blob anymore. I guess massive shift to MSU cav will be the only possibel replacement.
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Hmm not a fan of the price hikes. I wonder when our book will be released and if finally for the first time someone competent writes it, and the army as a total is coherent and makes sense, rather then the random jumbled mess we have been for a while now.
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4 hours ago, The Red King said:
How is there nothing here with the rumor of plastic doombull, bullgor, and jabber floating around lol.
Is there any foundation supporting these rumors or is it just people wish listing ?
Coz If anything I would expect Beastlord, Shaggoth and Centigors to get new sculpts first and foremost in case updated kits are announced for us.
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2 minutes ago, Popisdead said:
You can alternate horizontal and vertical cavalry. I do this with my Wild Riders.
What do you mean Pop ?
The first 2-3 to make contact go "flat" (horizontal) and the ones after just slam in like nails into a board (vertical) ?
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1 hour ago, Feorag said:
I think we will definitely end up with the 40k rules of second rank fighting as long as the first rank can. If not it will ruin so many other armies not just beasts including the SCE poster boys with 40mm and 1" reach!
I think we will be fine with the new rules.
I too believe this will be a thing. Either this, or the bigger bases modesl (40mm+) will have different Cohesion rules. Since what we have are just snippets not the entire cohession rule page so its possible.
But one should remember the quote from 40K DoW PC game when it comes to GW:
'Hope is a first step on a road to disappointment.'
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This is so stupid.... dont they realize this impact a LOT of units ? Like every single 40mm base model in the game ? Ogors will suffer, Troggoths will suffer. Anything that is "monster infantry" will suffer from this, This rule makes absolutely NO sense, since you cant play 6 models in a line, yet you have to pile in. Srsly wut ?
Edit: Maybe, possibly they actually thought of this and models on 40mm/50mm bases will have some exception to this.
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1 hour ago, Popisdead said:
He lost his rr 1s.
Thats exactly what I meant. Beastlord was only good with gnarl blade. THAT Beastlord, back then. Not the one right now that no longer rerolls
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2 hours ago, someone2040 said:
Yeah, the book is not great for game play. Whenever I play, I'm always using cards.
I'll see put a note in my TODO list to remake the cards with the official stats. I already have most of the infantry apart from the hero level characters and the cavalry options, so not necessarily a ton more work.
Best of luck good sir!
And if by any chance you`d be willing to share them once done I would be much obliged. I enjoy running a mixed race CoS Army in AoS and I can see myself do the same with the Warcry Warband regularly since the mono race warbands are kinda lack luster. As such being spared to nonstop flip the pages and skim through them would be a great QoL I`d be grateful for :3
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10 minutes ago, tupavko said:
Whoever wrote these rules, had really little time/will/idea on what to do with BoC... The general faction rules are kind of OK, but still not a huge buff, the rest is pretty much wasted paper...
But I dont really mean the "meh" part of it.
Jabberslythe is literally a Buff bot for your enemy. I cant believe this got greenlit.
Hell make it a 3D6 rolls, if the unit fails the roll they take few MW. Bam done. To intentionally write a rule that gives them +1 attack, is not an oversight or lazyness. This is intentional and kick in the teeth of anyone who was hoping to bring their Jabberslythe. There is a saying to not ascribe to Malice what could be defined by stupidity, but to me this is just malicious. Our army is in dire needs of inner army buffs and synergies, and instead we get a unit that buffs your opponent units... like what type of drug was the writer taking to come up with this ? How does this even make any sense...
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26 minutes ago, tupavko said:
The Beastlord is basically the same:
- got run and charge
- does NOT reroll hits anymore, but gets exploding 6s vs. heroes
Jabber-thing is still pretty much the same but "Aura of Madness now is:
"roll 3d6 for an each enemy unit within 3'' of this model selected to fight. If the result is superior to the Bravery value of that unit, the unit gains +1A on its melee weapons but for each to hit roll of 1 it suffers 1 mortal wound after all of its attacks have been solved."
the Battalion is cool but limited to the box content (shaman, named so no artifacts) 2 units of Bullgors and a Ghorgon.
All WARHERD units get to add 1 to hit rolls ONLY if wholy within 12'' of the named ShamanAnd again with the stupid "I give yo something but take much more away from you" rules.
I fail to see why would anyone bring a Jabberslythe now. Even less then before. Its essentially a free Buff bot for the enem units. You give the enemy unit +1 attack, turning them into murder machines and the only drawback is 1MW for each 1 rolled ? AFTER RESOLVING THE ATTACK! Just how is this not a free buff for the enemy, HOW ?! This is just plain mockery!
LOL I am sure any of you`d happy take that tradeoff if it was usable on our own units.... Who cares if few models die. You can always reroll using a command ability.
12" aura for units like bullgors who use big beefy bases.... again what were they thinking. And a worthless named shaman. A BRAY SHAMAN with Warherds.... zero synergy beyond being just a spell bot.
Good thing I didnt expect anything becuase none of this is really good. The Beastlord is kinda good, but can no longer be used with Gnarled Blade due to no more rerolls.
Very dissapointing in general. I mean, these people arent even trying FFS!
Or actually the are trying very hard.... to make it worse than it was before. This is just ridiculous at this point!-
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23 minutes ago, The Red King said:
Potato cam pics from BR:Kragnos going around show beastlords going up 5 points and jabberslyth going up 25.
If this is true then...
Lol.... Beastlord is good only because of Gnarled blade (yeah sure you can have a second one with Volcanix Axe I guess).
Why Jabberslythe, a thing that hasnt seen proper table ever since its massive nerf is going up in points is beyond me. Do these people even play their own game ? (most likely not. or if they do probably just the top meta armies, thus just seeing the rules on the warscroll makes them think "this is too cheap for how good it is"). Bruh...
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Since we are sharing some bulls, these are mine
They are the Mierce ones and as you can see on some of the pictures, it is exactly as mentioned. The weapons got broken off during transport some even into multiple pieces. Just a pain in the a** to deal with honestly. But they look so much better than the GW ones in my oppinion. Admittedly pretty bad picture quality.Spoiler
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2 hours ago, Televiper11 said:
Oh this was some good stuff!
I dont hope anything tangible will come out of it as far as the game itself goes. But as a tid bit of lore, this was really delicious offering! BAAAAH!
AoS 2 - Beasts of Chaos Discussion
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Posted · Edited by Myrdin
So I saw a picture somewhere showing the AoS armybook releases for this year. We werent on it. (I remember Ghosts, Daughters, Fireslayers were there plus 2 more).
Hard to say if it was legit or just someone wishlisting with photoshop. But not sure how I feel about that... on one hand I am like "well at least I wont get dissapointed again", on the other I want our new book to see whether I part with this army and keep just a small warband of selected painted minis or if I stick it up longer.
Anyone got more info on this ? Or at least on the "thing" we are supposed to get that was discussed few posts above ?