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53 minutes ago, Grungnisson said:
Grombrindal model that is as good a priest as Gotrek is a fighter. And a LoftP-like duardin army in the next narrative campaign books, while the 'regular' factions remain separated as they have been so far. Would that work for people?
Oh, they could have Grombridal flanked by a Fyreslayer and Kharadron representative/bodyguard, like a runeson and captain. Make it reminiscent of the old anniversary model of Grombrindal with Gotrek and Bugman acting as his shield bearers.
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22 minutes ago, Gitzdee said:
Could someone tell me why we are talking soup again?
KO have their book art revealed so that isnt happening.
It's a slow day with no lizard rumors, and this discussion happens every time KO or Fyreslayers get a book announcement. It's tradition at this point, and dwarves love traditions.
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3 minutes ago, Ragest said:
And I want to be clear again, I'm against it like you, just if that happens, is not the end of the world. Maybe KO, S2D or DoK (nah, DoK is impossible, they are the postergirls) get backfired losing stuff, but FS, IDK or Boc will win with the soup, I'm pretty sure. Just look at FS, just 1 hero, pretty small book and in the depths of popularity in every sourvey I have ever seen (including one there, in TGA, a year or two ago)
True, it would probably help Fireslayers because they lack unit diversity.
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Just now, madmac said:
KO Ships with Fyreslayer runes: Yuck
Flying FS with KO riggs: Yuck
I think you just don't get what people like about the existing dwarf armies...
"We must use fragments of our God to become closer to him, to reclaim what we have lost! For Grimnir and our forefathers!"
"The gods abandoned us! How dare you forsake Duardin ingenuity and craft for cheap magical parlor tricks! I spit on your Grimnir, ancestors, and their wayward children!"
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"Anyway, can we put pieces of your blasphemous God in our ships?"
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For me, it's mostly the loss of lore pages that bothers me. I can compare my 7th edition and 8th edition Ork codexes to my 9th edition one, and it's just a bit sad. Kinda like what happens in AoS books, the Beastsnagga Orks are treated like a separate faction sharing the same book in how they are presented (and how their rules synergy works). Half the book's lore goes to regular Orks, half went to the new Beastsnagga Orks. A page of lore on a particular vehicle gets paired down to a short paragraph with no art, or combined with another unit's paragraph. The book didn't get bigger, it actually got a little smaller. Also while I like them, the section for Crusade stuff also took like 15ish pages from the lore section.
Different game, different situation, but I think it's pretty similar it how GW treats adding/combining things.
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1 hour ago, Ragest said:
How a soup makes you “lose” anything?
Well, two ways;
• Lore-wise the battletome needs to be split multiple ways. Instead of 40 pages of lore dedicated to your guys in great detail, you will get 15 to you and 15 pages to your Battletome partner, then 10 pages explaining why you are working together. Gloomspite splits it 5 ways now; Moonclan, Squigs, Troggs, Spiders, and Wolf Riders.
• Model-wise, the way GW does minor releases there's a chance you get nothing for a whole edition. Like how after Bonesplitterz were combined with Ironjawz (and later Kruleboyz) the Bonesplitterz haven't really gotten anything since. No obligatory hero like the solo battletomes get. Maybe next update you will be left alone while another part of the book like Kruleboyz or Moonclan or Beastclaw Raiders get new things you can't use. Bonesplitterz got a neat named Wurrgog through Underworlds, but that's been their only major change in 2 editions.
I think soup armies work well in destruction since we lump together well, and I don't want to come across as complaining about my favorite grots. But I can see the issue with factions with a lot of solo potential like Kharadrons being souped.
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26 minutes ago, Beliman said:
What do you mean "technically" a soup tome?
I think he considers any tome with potential keyword bingo "technically soup." Cause I don't think the different temples could be their own faction. Maybe by AoS 1.0 standards they could, when entire factions were rocking 1 hero and 1 unit.
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10 minutes ago, cofaxest said:
I think that souping is the only option IF GW want to make more factions and we already have plenty of souped tomes
Lumineth - technically is a soup tome
SCE - technically is a soup tome
Sylvaneth - technically is a soup tome
SBG - technically is a soup tome
Warclans - soup tome
GSG - soup tome
Ogors - soup tome
All 4 chaos gods tomes - soup tomes
Skaven - soup tome
Some of them have good transition (like Lumineth or Ogors), some of them have bad one (like Warclans or Skaven), but it is what it is IMHO.I wouldn't say all the Chaos god books are soup tomes, they are actually the opposite. They used to be two factions; Warriors of Chaos and Daemons of Chaos. Then they dissolved Daemons of Chaos into 4 separate factions, one for each god while taking the god-aligned models from Warriors of Chaos (and a few new mortal units). Now it's even more focused than it used to be.
It's kinda the history of Chaos factions. First it was Chaos; then it was split into Chaos and Beastmen; then Chaos, Beastmen and Skaven; then Chaos Daemons, Chaos Warriors, Beastmen, Skaven, and Chaos Dwarves; then in AoS the Chaos Daemons split again. Who knows, maybe the next development in Chaos would be Marauders striking it out on their own as a solo faction, like Total War: Warhammer did with them 🤣
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3 hours ago, Chikout said:
I'm very curious to see what happens next edition for both AoS and 40k. At this point most armies are quite well served when it comes to heroes. Even a pretty small faction like KO now has 7 hero options. Are we really going to get another round of this? I'd love to see GW move to a New book plus unit next edition.
I guess the evolution of low-investment additions to armies they don't want to do full releases for would be bringing back more singular medium sized monsters. Like Beasts of Nurgle, Chaos Spawn, or Fomoroids. Something on a 40-60mm base that theoretically fits in a blister or small box if they had less options.
Like you could probably fit a new plastic Varghulf/Vargskyr into a blister pack and sell it solo. Or like two Fyreslayers and a spitting lizard in a small box like the Warcry monsters. Monopose, but something.
I kinda think they are going to stick to the hero route though, as silly as that is. Single heroes sell to painters and players. I don't play Kharadrons (at the moment) but I own a couple of their heroes like Drekki Flynt because they are cool models and fun to paint. The local shop's discord has a couple people who buy heroes and don't actually play.
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2 hours ago, DinoJon said:
This was kind of brought up with the K.O. announcement but I wonder if we'll ever see new Endless Spells or faction terrain again?
From what I remember they were made offsite and when Covid hit they had a hard time to keep producing them.
Also at least for the US Endless Spells: Disciples of Tzeentch has been out of stock since a little before book launch.
I really like these releases and feel like they add a lot to the world of AoS but I guess their time is done?
Endless Spells, Faction Terrain (and some other terrain), and Warhammer Underworlds sets were produced in China and not their usual UK factory. I remember the AoS 2nd edition release for Sylvaneth was really delayed because right before it happened a trade war broke out between the US and China, making shipping prohibitively expensive. The Sylvaneth endless spells, battletomes, and new Wyldwood terrain models were delayed a few months because they were stuck in a port iirc. Since then GW has been less enthusiastic about faction terrain and spells it seems.
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1 hour ago, madmac said:
Frankly, that kinda of role would better fit their design and lore than their current status as cheap chaff anyway. They've always been this unit that's supposed to be slapped down on the table in big numbers to hold objectives and stuff but, like...you can barely fit a single MSU arkanaut unit on a frigate, man. Where exactly are all these hordes supposed to be appearing from on the battlefield? A single reinforced unit is enough to risk overburdening an Ironclad.
Personally I think they should increase the frigate capacity to 11 or 12, kinda like an Ork Trukk in 40k. It gives it space to carry a squad of Arkanauts and a hero without slowing it down and incurring penalties. It would make people like Drekki Flynt more appealing, because you can take a hero without them flying solo or with other heroes and 5 thunderers.
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8 hours ago, RyantheFett said:
Man they update prices more then certain factions!
I just hope they forget to update Spiderfang prices again. Last time they spiked prices, the Spider Rider and Arachnarok kits were unaffected.
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So I just found something that needs to be FAQ'd. The Webspinner on Arachnarok is missing the Hero keyword, so you can't give them Nibbla's Ring or the Spider Totem artifacts. Also, much less importantly, the Warscroll Battalion for Spiderfang has no place to put a Webspinner on foot.
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19 hours ago, Aelfric said:
I totally agree about the General Trogboss. Make him as defensive as possible and take a free Mork's Mushroom ( I'll also take the Scuttletide and a Webspinner to cast it ). I'm leaning towards the Gryph Feather Charm as I've been bitten by the Glowy Howzit once too often. It's whether to take more Trogbosses or Troggoths that I am considering. I have been using 2 Trogbosses before and have just painted up a 3rd hoping the Dankhold Troggoths would be worth taking over the Boss. I feel like they are on first impression, but not completely sold at the moment. I'll try them out in a game or two and see how they go.
Free Morks Mushroom really seems like the way to go. You do need to be careful about the random distance. If you watch the 2v2 Gloomspite battle report on Rerolling Ones, the Trogg player rolls very low and nukes his own troggoths. Hilarious.
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5 hours ago, Matrindur said:
I like his bowls of snacks.
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I wonder if Grimskuttle Tribe is gonna make one of the Arachnarok variants battleline? At the end of the rules teaser on Wednesday it ends with a cheeky "and you can build a whole army of..." It wouldn't make sense for them to tease something that already exists, and they talked about units from every archetype except spiders. Usually when WarCom hypes up building a whole army of [blank], they mean some subfaction that turns monsters battleline. Like Lofnir lodge or Dino-geddon Seraphon lists.
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3 hours ago, Neverchosen said:
My predictions:
If I force myself to stay up tonight: A Single Space Marine
If I go to sleep early: Seraphon vs Malerion Boxset of all new Models that are given away to all people watching live.Look into my eyes.. Go to sleep, young snotling.
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3 hours ago, Gothmaug said:
So what's going to be the weird, unexpected reveal? There's always one. Any guesses?
I'm going to say... This thing
I want to say terrain for warcry. It's definitely an Arachnarok's face, but with the mandible simplified into solid black fangs. Arachnaroks are one of the wild monsters for Warcry right?
The dream would be the next set is Khorne vs Soulblight, and the set after is Slaanesh vs Spiderfang. That's a dead Arachnarok that makes up the terrain for the box, and 10 spider Riders make up the Grot half (like how the Hunters of Huanchi are just updated Chameleon Skinks).
That's just a wild guess based on my own hopes though, I have no basis for that other than the Arachnarok face.
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3 hours ago, Ragnar72 said:
After watching the battle report:
- mangler squigs , after charging, they they a dice for every model in a unit 1“ away. For every 4+ its a mortal wound.
- somehow the new hero can buff the hit rolls of squig units. For every 6 its a mortal wound
- squigs affected by the moon can run and charge
- boss on big squig had rend 2 and made 3 dmg after charging ?,?
Boss on GCS had 2 rend and 3 damage on a charge? Makes sense they changed Let's Get Bouncin' as a thing to synergize with him charging with Boingrots.
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Follow Da Moon as a battle plan is either going to be super easy or super hard, depending on random chance. Do we know if Skragrott can still control the moon? If so he can just force it to the middle of the board for a guaranteed battle plan. Being near the Loonshrine counts too, right?
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Since they changed Squig Hopper movement from 3d6 to 10+D6, I wonder if that means Squig Cavalry will find more use outside Squig-themed lists? They are much less reliant on buffs like "Let's Get Bouncing" for reliable movement.
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12 minutes ago, Smash said:
@dirkdragonslayer Is that scheduled priview you have screenshot of something official? Or is it some channel you follow? Mind sharing who it is so i can watch too
It's from the description of a scheduled upcoming review by AoSCoach. Someone shared it with me and I shared it here. The video will release on Saturday when the review embargo lifts.
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2 hours ago, woolf said:
just me or does the BoC rules scream Kruleboyz? 😆
It's the ciiiircle of ~life~ rules creep. BoC went through the same thing where they were the first people in 2nd edition to get new summoning rules where they had to sacrifice units and lose stuff, then over time summoning became easier and easier, then it just became basically free on top of other mechanics for people like Slaanesh.
The Rumour Thread
in Age of Sigmar Discussions
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Trugg the Trogg! Gloomspite continues to be the unofficial main characters of GA Destruction. His model is great, he's like an overgrown Dankhold with that ancient magic shrine. Love the cave drawings carved into his flesh and baby troggoths climbing around. Dankholds already looked ancient, but this new named Dankhold looks like he fell asleep in the tomb of Gilgamesh or something.
Ironjawz wave 2 looks great too. It only took them... 7 years? Ironjawz was one of those factions I liked the idea of, but hated the lack of unit diversity. Now they seem tempting. This is getting them a lot of new units;
• Orruk Berserkers
• Weird Berserkers
• Giant Grunta
• Giant Grunta with Boss
• Ardboy Big Boss
• Klonk the squig (and that other guy)
• Reworked Ardboyz, with better armor and it sounds like the spears give Total War-esque charge defense rules.
Oh, and Gorgers for the Ogors. Seems like a good time to be a Destruction fan.