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  1. On 12/5/2020 at 11:20 PM, Lightbox said:

    From the realm of Chamon my Gargants act as an order of knights... or whatever they consider knights to be. They have fancy helmets basically.

    Here is my Kraken Eater with his metal cage instead of a net 20201126_212125.jpg.2f8b3003221c4108687ddf167a06d30a.jpg20201126_212135.jpg.145c0e37a73f19e6378652d0a2a3c58d.jpg

     

    Where does the body come from? 

    Very good result

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  2. However there are armies, like sylvaneth and Kharadron, where you play everything you find in start collecting (not only for price saving, but because you need that units) , even twice. So I don't think your assumption is realistic for all those armies

  3. 16 minutes ago, Athrawes said:

    I'm so tired of people complaining out price hike.

    So I know that everyone feels angsty over the perceived price of Lumineth and now Sons of Behamat.
     
    With that in mind, I thought it would be fun to go through the Warscroll builder, and the Games workshop site in USD and calculate what some standard 2000point lists would cost to build for various factions.
    Where possible I avoided endless spells except to pad points at the end of a list. I avoided choosing the most price inefficient choice to try and inflate army costs/price.
    For most I choose what I thought looked like fun lists, and for factions with terrain, I have included it.
     
    I have very little experience building chaos armies, so I mostly focused on Order and Destruction armies I play regularly.
     
    Finally pricing for this was through the GW webstore, so does not include what you might find from FLGS discounts, but since those discounts would be shared for each faction, I don't think that truly impacts this list.
     
    From cheapest to most expensive:
    Ogor Mawtribes: 524USD with terrain
    Ossiarch Bonereapers: 632USD with terrain
    Gloomspite Gitz: 678USD with terrain
    Kharadron Overlord: 719USD
    Sons of Behamat: 775USD
    Daughters of Khaine: 781USD
    Idoneth Deepkin: 783USD (with 2 Shipwrecks)
    Sylvaneth: 793USD (with 3 wyldwoods)
    Lumineth Realm-Lords: 793USD
     
     
    Lists:
     
    Ogor Mawtribes: Tyrant, Butcher, Firebelly, (2) Frost sabers, (4) leadbelchers, (8) ironguts, (12) Ogor Gluttons, (4) Mournfang Pack, (2) Iron Blaster
    Ossiarch Bonereapers: Liege-Kavalos, Mortisan Boneshaper, Motisan Soulmason, (10) Kavalos Deathriders, (50) Mortek Guard, (3) Necropolis Stalkers, (1) Gothizzar Harvester, (1) Mortek Crawler
    Gloomspite Gitz: (1)Loonboss, (1) Loonbos on giant cave squig, (1) Fungoid cave Shaman, (1) Madcap Shaman, (1) Gobbapalooza, (20) Shootas, (60) Stabbas, (12) Squig Herd, (10) Boingrot Bounders, (10) Loonsmasha Fanatics, (3) Rockgut Troggoths, (1) dankhold Troggoth, (1) malevolent moon
    Kharadron Overlords: (1) Arkanaut Admiral, (1) Aether-Khemist, (1) Aetheric Navigator, (30) Arkanaut Company, (3) Endrinriggers, (15) Grundstok Thunderers, (2) Grundstock Gunhaulers, (1) Arkanaut Frigate, (1) Arkanaut Ironclad)
    Daughters of Khaine: (1) Hag Queen on Cauldron of Blood, (1) Slaughter Queen, (1) Morathi High Oracle of Khaine, (10) Blood Sisters, (5) Blood Stalkers, (5) Khinerai Heartrenders, (30) Witch Aelves, (30) Sisters of Slaughter
    Idoneth Deepkin: (1) Akhelian King, (1) Eidolon Aspect of the Sea, (1) Tidecaster, (1) Soulscryer, (20) Namarti Thralls, (10) Namarti reavers, (6) Ishlean Guard, (3) Morsaar Guard, (1) Akhelian Leviadon
    Sylvaneth: (1) Spirit of Durthu, (1) Arch Revenant, (1) Branchwych, (1) Drycha Haemadreth, (50) Dryads, (10) tree Revenants, (3) Kurnoth Hunters, (2) Treelords
    Lumineth Realm Lords: (1) Light of Eltharion, (1) Scinari Cathallar, (1) Alarith Stonmage, (15) Alarith Stoneguard, (20) Wardens, (20) Sentinels, (10) Dawnriders, (1) Alarith Spirit of the Mountain, (1) Rune of Petrification
     
    Sons of Behamat: 3 Mega Gargants, 3 aleguzzlers (This is based on leaked pricing in USD of mega gargants 195USD, a 2 set of aleguzzlers now going 125USD and a single still being 65USD)
     
    I don't think the lists particularly matter, but these are all lists I either have played or played against, or plan to collect, but everyone's lists are different so it shouldn't matter. The point isnt to say "well this list sucks, or is not very efficient" My point with these test 2000 pt armies is  just that these are pretty standard collections of miniatures for various factions adding up to a 2k list. These are not meant to be tournament competitive, just the kind of fun, thematic armies that most people tend to collect, to paint and play.
     
    Obviously the LRL are tied with Sylvaneth at the high end of this spectrum, but realistically, they are not too far away from the rest of these armies, Nor are the Sons of Behamat.  I encourage other people to do this for themselves. Looking at individual pricing can feel discouraging, but looking at army collections as a whole, the LRL and SoB seem just fine.
     
    Feel free to add to this list, as I think this type of cost comparison will help calm some of our "sky is falling" members.
     
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    TLDR: Even if kit prices look high, the cost a a 2000 point army is pretty similar across the board for various factions. 

    Did you consider start collecting? 

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  4. Yesterday I played a blade of khorne list using the khorne beast battalion 

    2 slaughterpriest 

    2 bloodsecrators

    1 doombull

    1 Beastlord 

    3x10 bestigor

    10 gor

    6 bullgor with great weapon

    20 blood reavers 

    10 flesh hounds

    Khorne invocation: axe

    I played against ossiarch with katakros, 40 10 10 core unit, 2 artillery, 4 morghast

    I managed to kill katakross thanks to bloodsecrator buff on bullgor and slaughterpriest pray that move opponent's unit

    Actually buffs from bloodsecrator and slaughterpriest are very interesting on bestigor and bullgors and the battalion ability is more useful than I thought 

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  5. 7 hours ago, Rhetoric said:

     

    In my first game I sent a Hunter block in with the Dreadwood teleport to delete a unit of Stormvermin, but the rolls were pretty bad and they ended up dieing soon after failing to kill the unit.  
     

    Game Two I really used my trees to block LoS.  But some poor casting meant I was only able to get the one TLA free tree out.  All other attempts failed.  

    Since I am unlucky too, I use vesperal gem for casting. I would also suggest to teleport kurnoth together with a hero, so that they can use a command point for reroll charge 

    However I really hate stormfiends, so I can understand your situation 

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