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That would be amazing if they hid a teaser in something like this. To be honest I can see the resemblance. Even threw some sort of dragon in for scale to showoff how big Kragnos is.

I think GW is in a bit of a pickle here. If they make these guys fieldable on their own, and good enough that someone actually wants to take them, as it is you're already asking people to buy a high priced box to get them. Then, what do they do in 3 years when the box is no longer available? They can't release the models individually because of the way the sprues are designed. Best they could do is sell a Gobapallooza style box with a bunch of them together.

I can see that for a couple reasons. 1. A skeleton is a skeleton. A dead body/zombie is a dead body/zombie. It is easy to port these visually to a connection to the old world because they are familiar aesthetics. 2. Nagash recreated Old World characters, and they set up cities the way they remember them. Vampires are somewhat timeless beings so less likely to take sharp left turns in their character/lore/look. 3. Shyish is grounded in its vibe from the undead. As a result, it draws in classic undead opponents as adversaries like the Order of Azyr. These adversaries naturally tap into familiar lore and aesthetics than transcend AoS as well and will feel similar to Old World fans. Bottom line, the undead offer something to grasp onto for someone predisposed to performing the cognitive dissonance jumps to rationalize "hey look this isn't that different from that other thing I liked."

It would be received much better than Stormcast showing up in the box again, which is why I believe that's not what GW is planning. I know that companies like to think they know what their customers want better than their customers do, but seriously GW, no one is clamoring for Stormcast again!

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Since they are a mainline AoS release they 100% will have a better warscroll cuz that's how GW rolls with their side games.

Wow GW is just brilliantly tying in Cursed City, Soulblight, and Order of Azyr across Warhammer Quest, AoS, and Underworlds to time them all to maximize desire to just buy all of it!

While I'll never get why GW is opposed to making underworlds warbands decent in AoS, I'm totally ok with them not expecting people to buy a full boxed game to get a specific hero for their army that is "must have" competitively.

GW the actual company has responded dozens of times to this question saying it isn't limited. Your store probably made a mistake/misunderstood/misspoke.

I'd wager we might not see it til next week. GW has been, imprecise, shall we say with their 1st and last Friday of the month Underworlds articles that were promised.

Yeah I think the massive (even for heroic scale) hands and the squat pose are far worse sins than the face sculpt. I hope GW somehow gets the feedback on bad sculpts like this (because if the rules are good people will buy it anyways).

We've seen 2 different skeletons hung on posts, 2 gargoyles, and at least 1 grave marker (presumably there's a second) and at least 1 crow on post (probably a 2nd one of those too). I think that just leaves one pair of objectives that hasn't been spotted (or do I recall something like a treasure chest being seen as well)?

Based on the (albeit Covid delayed) release of Catacombs, it seemed like GW was setting up Warcry to run on annual seasons similar to Underworlds. Since we haven't seen any of the 8 warbands on the map yet I guess that is definitely not the plan now (if it ever was).

What do people make of the lack of any Warcry previews lately? Surely all the symbols we saw on the Catacombs map represent new warbands on the way no?

I think we can make plenty of reasonable assumptions without "concrete" evidence. - The most recent new editions for 40k and AoS were both at roughly the 3 year anniversary (a milestone we hit for AoS 2.0 this year). - GW tends to launch story arcs that lead into new editions (Malign Portents and Psychic Awakening). Broken Realms is very much following the patterns GW has established here (short stories and narrative books with some model release tie ins). - The pace of Broken Realms releases is accelerating, just like Psychic Awakening did in the rush to get 9th out. - All AoS armies have essentially received a 2.0 book.

I think we definitely have enough evidence now that big hair is the design thread through all the new vampires! Fascinating that there is another oval base.

Shocker, it is the guy who is literally on the cover like anyone who wasn't wishlisting said it would be!

I bet they update the corpse cart sculpt just like the Nighthaunt got an updated Black Coach (and OBR got that Harvester).

I would be shocked if they're separate units. I think they're just alternate sculpts (and I love the variety offered by alternate sculpts!).

How do you guys interpret Manfred's final line about intending to make sure his task is insurmountable? Not sure if it is related at all but the Belakor story seemed to play with the theme of doing the impossible too.

Even if it is a bunch of silhouettes like that first Lumineth video, looks like there will be at least some full models shown!

Anyone see a faint Vampire or necromancer silhouette in the center of the picture over the middle zombie?

Ye of little faith that were afraid we'd only get the cursed city zombies! I actually love the narrative design of the cursed city zombies but 100% agree that it would have been a big miss to have them as the only zombie models as all that stuff on their back is just too over the top for full units, especially in a pitched battle setting.

Sure but that was also just the name "Kurnothi", which is akin to "Ossiarch Bonereapers." This is a much more narrowly defined name that implies a specific unit type within the army "Mortisian Executioner."

Agreed that is definitely a trademarked unit name reference (since he won't be called that in the Underworlds game proper). Also agree with others that this is my favorite OBR model to date. Much more menacing.