Mark Williams

I don’t think so. My army definitely got stronger. However some of the old power combos no longer work. I think they just hammered down the stuff that was making every army look the same. I agree the battalions seem overpriced and underwhelming however.

Played a game tonight with this list. Hammers of sigmar on board:: lord relictor, lord ordinator, 2x5 liberators, 2x5 judicators w crossbows off board: celestant on dracoth, neave blacktalon, celestant prime, 5 retributors, 3 raptors w hurricane crossbows Tabled a chaos army with Archeon & Tzeench allegiance. impressions: 1. much more control of striking from heavens 2. Crossbows much more dangerous 3. Bravery makes the army practically fearless 4. 5+ to bring libs back failed every time (not sure about this yet) 5. Celestant prime is much bigger threat and more reliable due to changing the charge result 6. I forgot to roll damage saves for new command trait. Have to relearn how to play this. 7. Lord ordinator bad for this list and I should replace him Questions: 1. Does the celestant prime get +4 attacks on turn 3, or just 2? Opponent questioned this but it seems the sam as before to me. 2. Do the raptors get to rapid fire when striking from the heavens? Not sure based on vague FAQ wording. 3. Can you use more than 1 command point trying to bring a unit of liberators back? Gut says you get one chance when the last one dies then they’re gone forever.

Your models look amazing. May I ask how you do your bases? What materials and colors are you using?

After reading through this thread, I don't see anyone talking about using Draichi Ganeth combined with the Slaughter Troupe battalion. I've been looking at this as a potential base to build an army around, and wondered if anyone has any experience playing with them and an idea of how well they would do. It seems to me being able to retreat and run back into combat (or even attack a different target) would be very useful. I'm surprised I don't see anyone looking into this and I wonder if I'm missing something.