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  1. 13 minutes ago, TheadTheOgorSlayer said:

    Moorcock sounds suspiciously made up.... moor.... ******.... huh....

    anyways, everything is a modified version of something. It’s impossible to not imitate to a point. 

    Tropes are one thing, but they are so surface level I’m not even sure how a 30 year old setting can be criticized as tropes. I’m not actually sure who moorcock is, but I do have a familiar sense of Tolkien’s works so I’ll compare from there.

    things that don’t remind me of Tolkien from old fantasy:

    magic system, several aspects of elves and dwarves (the dwarves in fantasy remind me of Tolkien dwarves turned up to 11 and made ridiculous, to the point of being unique), all of death,  orks, wood elves, the actual feeling of the setting, lizardmen, lustria, cheese (warpstone), skaven, bretonnia, humans, sigmar, all the gods essentially, every single aspect of daemons (you know, the whole badguy of the setting and the main antagonist in most of the world spanning campaigns), chaos as a whole honestly, trolls, and several other aspects that could go on and on forever if I really listed every individual and identity that doesn’t remind of Tolkien’s fiction.

    and the best part is every one of the above things I mentioned are based in some form on another fiction (myths and cultural monsters, it’s no secret slaanesh represents an aspect of the devil, and we all know trolls and other creatures were not made up by Tolkien) bretonnia is an obvious example, chaos humans are evil Vikings. Aztec dinosaurs. Vampires for Pete’s sake.

    and even if all the above were carbon copies of Tolkien, the actual characters that made up the setting were so different and unique it would never actually be the same setting. 

    Tropes don’t define a setting, and a 30 year old history is not shallow. I’m also too young to have grown up with the setting so this is just me reading up on 8th edition lore. And at no point did I even find it Tolkien esque even when reading about races that are clearly based on his works. Stories like an elven hero fighting 4 daemons with a sword dedicated to a god of murder do not make me think of anything in Tolkien’s settings. In fact to me it came off way more high fantasy then Tolkien’s. It’s loosely to Tolkien’s books what AOS is to fantasy. This is even more prominent in Lord of the rings, where the story is about normal people (hobbits) completing epic journeys despite their overall normality. To me this is like saying Star Wars is just start trek.

    But if Tolkien has clear near copies of all the above then please tell me where I can read about them. I’m only really familiar with some wiki pages and the lord of the rings novels and movies, as well as the short story the hobbit (which was somehow made into 3 movies lol, not that I’m complaining, I’m glad I got to see Smaug on screen)

    This concludes my late night rant, I definitely overreacted!

    Most of what you just listed was from the author you think is made up.  lizardmen were literally just a kind of appropriation of South American mythology. But did you really just argue that GW made up the lady of the lake and knights of the grail? 

  2. the Old World was actually pretty shallow. I loved it. I grew up with it. That doesn’t mean it wasn’t just a collection of classic fantasy settings and tropes smashed together and then *slightly* modified. I will always have fond memories of it but I’m sure it was incredibly hard to write for. AoS is also smashing together tropes and settings but at least they also can kind do whatever they want and get away with it. I mean how much of the old world was literally just Tolkien and Moorcock with different names? A whole dang lot. 
     

    Anyway- I’m really excited to learn more about the Lumineth!

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  3. 1 hour ago, Tiberius501 said:

    I’m actually pretty sure they’re on 32mm bases. The camera lens seems to have a bit of a janky thing going on to the left, but if you compare the base of the high warden in the middle and the Skaven almost opposite him, his base seems to be bigger. 

    I'd agree. If you look how the skaven fill the space of their base vs how the elves fill it I think that also shows the difference in base size. Elsewise those are some *tiny* elves.

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  4. 25 minutes ago, michu said:

    Or just simply two weapon profiles and you can attack with both. Like all units with multiple weapons (if they can be wielded at the same time).

    I wonder if spears will be something like 1 attack with 2” range and rend on turn someone charges while swords are 2 attacks at 1” reach no rend. Something like that could be pretty neat. 

  5. 9 minutes ago, michu said:

    So we have confirmation of:

    - Spearmen/Vanari Auralan Wardens

    - Archers/Auralan Sentinels

    - Cavalry/ Vanari Dawnriders

    - Mages.

    We only need swordmasters, chariots and some dragon/hawk riders and High Elves are alive again!

    Honestly I always preferred the lions to the sword masters. But I played Asrai so of course I liked the rangers haha. 

  6. Well that article was fairly sparse but still got my hype levels up! I’m excited to see how the elemental magic and the sun spears work out. 
     

    I couldn’t help but laugh as they described how beautiful the detailing on the back of the shield is while only showing the front. “Trust me— you gotta see it to believe it. What? No you can’t see it right now!”

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  7. 29 minutes ago, Koradrel of Chrace said:

    What kinds of weird units do you want to see?  What is something that's really far out there that would make the new army really clutch for you?  I'd like to see some sort of Light Elemental, something that could shift between crystalline and ethereal forms.

    I’d love to see a White Lions mixed unit ala squigs/herders. 

  8. I can’t believe how often it needs to be said on this forum. You cannot define what is too pricey for someone and you really shouldn’t be making people feel bad for not having money to throw at a fancy board game. 

     

    We cannot know each other’s lived experiences. 

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  9. I played infinity for a while. It was great unless your internet connection went out and you couldn’t access the Wikipedia to navigate the labyrinthine rules.  

     

    It’s also got the swingiest dice. There are ways to control it but bad luck in that game is extremely unforgiving. 

     

    The models are really pretty tho. 

  10. 5 minutes ago, Kramer said:

    @FlatTooth oh that would be cool! I was mostly interested if the pikes meant you could fight without your opponent being in range to hit back. 

    @Chaos Shepard haha, the mystery deepens  

    I have the feeling that there will at least be weapon types so hopefully "reach" will be some kind of ability they have! There are a lot of spears and stuff so maybe the pikes will also see a return to "strike first even when charged"!

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  11. 21 minutes ago, Chaos Shepard said:

    Small criticism of the paint scheme, but does anyone else think its odd that their ripped off faces have a better completion  than the rest of their bodies.

    The twist is that the faces are the only part of them STILL ALIVE AGHHHH

     

    Also that's where they see from and it's terrible.

  12. 1 hour ago, thediceabide said:

    I was planning out a Skaven army, the leaked price list showed my army would cost me about $10 more, so I didn’t rush out to buy it. The next day the price went up $118, meaning the average price increase was a little over 16%... and as a result I will likely not do the army since now the price at discount is higher than the MSRP was a week ago.

    I’m not really complaining about it, but as someone who was starting to stick their toe back into GW games*, it serves as a reminder of their policies and why I stopped playing to begin with (as well as my army being FAQ’d into uselessness).

     

    *Their main products anyhow, Blood Bowl and Necromunda don’t seem to suffer the same, and are still very enjoyable.

    While we’re on the topic of terrible policies- Let me know if you’d like to buy one of my two discontinued infinity factions haha

  13. I have a feeling the flayed face brigade will have a very interesting playstyle. Power from pain type stuff. The good news is I can’t  imagine them showing all these bands and not having them be available to purchase at the start. It’s good to see they won’t just immediately shoot themselves in the foot ala necromunda haha. 

     

    But yeah keeping my friends on the hype train with little concrete info is getting kind of hard 😬

  14. My biggest fear is they roll it out like the my did necromunda and kill a lot of hype for people wanting to play bands that aren’t out. 

     

    I genuinely dont don’t think they’ll do that but it’s a fear. 

     

    Im extremely hyped to see the final warbands but I think I’ll actually be going with the Ghur-boys and maybe buying two starter boxes so I can grow the game. 

  15. 12 minutes ago, swarmofseals said:

    GW has provided us with a bunch of different ways to enjoy Age of Sigmar. I know that the matched play content is getting like 90% of the focus online, but there is a ton of great content there for Open and Narrative play. One of the things that frustrates me about the community is the number of people who are dissatisfied with matched play and yet refuse to consider playing the game any other way. There is simply no substitute for talking to your opponents and finding people who want to enjoy the game the way you do. 

    Thanks for writing this. It was an incredibly insightful read! I couldn’t agree with this paragraph I quoted more. Sometimes I hear about the competitive scene and I get frustrated and then I remind myself that my group plays more towards the narrative side anyway. 

     

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