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These predictions of which armies per grand alliance are forgetting this tidbit from the Las Vegas Open studio preview:
1Quote2019 will see new battletomes for every Grand Alliance! Some brand-new armies will be joining the fray, as well as classic armies updated for the new edition.
At least 1 brand new army, It could be interpreted as multiple, but let's say it's just 1. I would call deathrattle or soulblight a "classic army updated for the new edition", as even though they don't currently have a battletome, they have a keyword, and in 1 case, a start collecting box. Certainly not "New"
So I expect at least a new Teclis faction or a brand new Death faction by the end of the year.
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32 hours ago, Overread said:
Mercenaries sounds like its lmited to Flesheaters and Fyreslayesr only, I wonder if both were selling taht poorly that GW is pushing them a bit harder than other armies; then again they are two armies with some of the smallest rosters of models.
They worded this article very poorly. From the WHF liveblog:
New mercenary companies allow you to add a selection of narrative-led, thematic units to your army. Perhaps you’ll employ the Maneaters of the Gutstuffers, or a Gargant from the notorious Grugg Brothers.
Also worth nothing they say "Mercenary Companies" is from the Generals Handbook 2019, not Forbidden power. So either they got one of the articles wrong (I suspect Forbidden Power is wrong) or Forbidden power somehow expands upon "Mercenary Companies" as found in GHB19.
Also I doubt FEC is selling poorly now that it's one of the strongest armies.
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1 hour ago, HammerOfSigmar said:
So this fire dwarf and SCE mercenery is for the matched play or just the narrative play for Forbidden Power campaign?
They already said that it would be (in the warhammer community article), but it's not going to be competitive (same reason GA armies aren't usually that competitive, lack of synergy)
411 minutes ago, Hoseman said:Do u guys think this year will be summer box?? I mean last year was soul wars because of 2.0. The year before was SCE Vanguard vs Nurgle. Will we have this year for the forbidden power event maybe a new box?? or will they make new boxes like looncurse or carrion empire?
and other thing, GHB will be out next month so hope to see if sachrosant chamber gets touched on points
There are two kinds of GW box sets:
One kind is the the starter box variety (Soul Wars, Shadowspear, Dark Imperium) that is all brand new, easy to build, monopose stuff
The other is the "we need to clear out our warehouse so we throw a bunch of old kits in this box and added 2 new models" kind. (Blightwar, Carrion Empire, Looncurse).
I don't think there is really a fixed frequency for either, I think GW is just really working with a super tight production schedule and trying to fit things in where they can. With warcry coming out I don't expect a new "starter box" though-
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2 minutes ago, GeneralZero said:
MAJOR disapointment on the AoS side, as there is nothing new for pure AoS player like myself. I'm not interested by warcry or underworld. Nothing about the StD. phhhh
But maybe it is a good thing for me as a 40K player, collectiong chaos, primaris and admech, I'm super glad to see full new miniatures tanks dual kits (for admech!!!! come on!!!).
I feel bad for people that still think STD is coming. I gave up on that after warcry.
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Just now, eciu said:
So a big meh ?
Meh beyond my wildest expectations. I expected at least 1 new battletome revealed. Instead not even 1 new AoS model revealed. Pretty much it was "Hey guys a new GHB is coming, can you believe it?!" Why yes, yes we can...
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7 minutes ago, Swooper said:
45 days? That's right around midsummer, not the beginning of summer.
Kind of derailing and clogging up the thread, but Summer starts on the solstice, which is in 42 days. The more you know...
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29 minutes ago, Sleboda said:
Point of note: I've played against dozens of players using them, and only one person ever just used the base without the trees. They are not just cosmetic (for better or worse) and in my experience, people realize that removing the trees is the same as removing, say, a wall on a building.
Have you ever tried to move a 40 block through wildwoods, or worse, pile in with a 40 block on something in wildwoods, with the trees in place? It is infuriating and makes no sense. and probably a large part of the redesign. We play "respect the circles", you can not move across the circles where the trees go. so the difference is when you're moving a very tall model, but it's likely that it wouldn't fit through the circles anyway.
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3 hours ago, MitGas said:
The new trees are really great for swamps so I'll grab a kit or two just for that - I think it would be a shame if the old Woods disappear as they're still great models (and look very different to the new ones) although the new ones will be better for playing with no huge base (then again, one could easily make their own bases for the old trees)
They can't produce an infinitely large range of products. It doesn't make sense to keep 2 different sets of woods in production when you're struggling to keep so many things in stock already. Even if you prefer the old woods, they are painful to play with, most people just removed the trees and played with the bases. The foliage was always falling off, etc. They needed to replace it if it since it was such an important part of the army. Similar to how the old mangler squig wasn't that old, but had a lot of problems (melting over, breaking, etc)
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38 minutes ago, Aelfric said:
The current woods have a base, so it could just as easily be a new terrain piece to replace the woods. I hope so, because even though I have collected and painted Sylvaneth, I haven't played them due to the way they play, which I wouldn't find fun, and the cost of buying multiple woods. I'm buying a Looncurse as both sides appeal to me, but give me a tree instead of woods and I'll be happy (Give me a Wanderers battletome and I'd be ecstatic!).
He means base as in a flat round or oval uniform base that all endless spells have. Scenery, on the other hand, including citadel woods and all of the new faction specific pieces, does not have such a base. Which makes it unlikely but not impossible that the tree in the photo is a piece of scenery
I do not think they will isolate Sylvaneth players who have bought and painted citadel woods. They may come up with a new model that's less annoying to play with but you can probably still use the ones you have.-
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115 hours ago, Overread said:
Yes but you must realise that GW likely hasn't got the slots at their HQ factories to add more units.
31 hour ago, Forrix said:The thing is though that the Molten Infernoth model is good enough they could have made it a unit. It doesn't need a new model or different plastic material or whatever. It only needs a warscroll. It might be a little lame to just have it be one mono-pose miniature but its what Khorne players have for the Korgorath.
You are not getting it... Sure the digital sculptors can make more models. Can always hire more sculptors too. Sure can write rules too. But playable unit models, ALL playable unit models, are produced by GW directly. They will not sacrifice the quality by outsourcing it. That is a line they have drawn. And each one of those takes some production capacity. And they simply do not have the capacity, and can not instantly create more capacity. It's entirely possible the Molten Infernoth was designed to be a unit, but GW decided to make it an endless spell because they do not have bandwidth for it as a new unit, but can outsource all the endless spells they need to.
This is why most armies are only getting endless spells and terrain this year, even if the designers could have made new models for these factions(maybe they already have!) The ops team can not produce them.-
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1 hour ago, Xelotath said:
Hey guys, was looking for a little inspiration on basing Gloomspite models, was wondering what other people had done for them. I was considering going for the toxic swamp base with some grassy bits. Worried it might look a little bit too Nurgle though. What do you guys do for your bases?
Yes that's too nurgly. Instead of green puddles you could do blue puddles and then maybe add some rocks for a wet cave look.
I went for a rocky look, dry cave or coming out of the cave into some barren rocky mountains, with just some mushrooms spontanously popping up in the wake of the gloomspite. I used shale, busted up into tiny bits for most bit the larger models have bigger pieces.-
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Just now, alghero81 said:
I think a better argument would be that Everchosen is a really old battletome without allegiance abilities and this means that one day we should see an update and recent trends and logic would hint to a combined book with Slaves / Darkoath. When this will happen it’s up for debate (and bets).
I don't think the current Everchosen battletome has any bearing on anything. It's just 3 warscrolls. It is more fluff than anything. It's like saying "Well, Battletome: Chaos Dreadhold was put out a long time ago so we should see an update soon!".
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23 minutes ago, Zanzou said:
Third. Wrong. It was GW's own choice to re-release those "AGE OF SIGMAR" models on shared sprues. The miniatures could still be made, but if they decided they couldn't "afford" to upkeep the model with a shared sprue and they actually cared about the health of the game, they either have to support what they sold or else they should never have released something for "AGE OF SIGMAR" that they would have to pull the rules for and stop producing. GW wanted to profit from their plastic crack without having to do any of the support work for it.
They also sold Greenskinz, Gitmob, etc during the AoS timeframe. So what? There is no rule that "Anything sold under the AoS shall forever be supported". We will lose many more models / warscrolls over time.
Are you suggesting that GW just keep updating the miniatures for every unit currently in the GHB? That's really boring. I'd rather see new armies, new models, and understand that unfortunately, we will lose some over time. From a competitive players perspective, it's the cost of playing a game. the rules change. From a casual players perspective, I think it's great that they continue to offer free rules via warhammer legends, etc. -
842 minutes ago, Zanzou said:
The problem is that they were pushing to new expansions/versions of AoS as you say (2.0) before bothering to support nearly half their range in 1.0 or 2.0. It's all about money. A healthy game would have one complete supported version of their game before pushing onto other things. Investing a year to update the rules so that EVERYONE who owns armies with Age of Sigmar is working with the same ruleset is simply a no-brainer. Everyone would be on equal footing, everyone would be having fun. However that wouldn't be immediate profit-making so they invested their resources elsewhere. I am not even talking about models here, I am talking about warscrolls, points, proper allegiances, proper allies, battletomes, etc. Removing warscrolls from new models like Poisoned Wind Mortar team because they had released them twice on mixed sprue boxes is another thing that would only be done by a company prioritizing money. It would be one thing to cease production of those models but to even remove the warscroll for it, despite releasing it in a "AoS" boxset? That's just scummy, saying "buy our other stuff if you want to play properly".
The mixed quality of the actual outdated models themselves is a separate issue, but still an issue.
First. GW is a public company. Their first obligation is to the shareholders that own the company. Not you as a player.
Second. GW is a miniatures company that writes rules for the miniatures. Not the other way around.
Third, you are contradicting yourself about Poisoned Wind Mortar. The plastic model was on a shared sprue, That's how they get the cost for starter sets down, cram it onto as few sprues as possible. So the miniature can't be made anymore. So it's UNHEALTHY for the game itself to allow people to play with miniatures that aren't readily available by everyone. If you care about the health of the gaming aspect of it, then you can surely appreciate this new and recent push for "only stuff we currently sell goes in the battletome, and the warscroll matches what comes in the box(stormfiends)". It's not a greedy evil scheme, it is literally for the best.
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21 minute ago, GeneralZero said:
I though that it was more a rumor, not yet confirmed... BTW, seeing what is already in the SC! Sylvaneth, I'm curious about what they will fiil this box with (except for a new hero of course)
There was a teaser video for it already at adepticon. Looncurse, you can search for it
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2 minutes ago, Gumbalina said:
Yes as the moon moves at the end of the battle round not the hero phase.
oh i see. Yeah i was asking about before the first round but i guess it is worded to not have any ambiguity. you only do it before you would roll
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hey guys quick question. Can Skragrott use his command ability on turn 1, even though the moon doesn't usually move that round?
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36 hours ago, Lernaean said:
I doubt it. Imo it will be more like Warcry releases and a couple of months later we’ll get a Darkoath release.
It has already happened with other armies in both AoS and 40k, getting a stand alone game with new minis from one faction and a little while after getting a full fledged book for said faction.
>>It has already happened with other armies in both AoS and 40k, getting a stand alone game with new minis from one faction and a little while after getting a full fledged book for said faction.
Speed Freaks? I'd say that's a bit different, and i'd also argue the models aren't good in 40k. Same as warhammer underworlds.
The problem here is the models. So far you've got 6 Warcry warbands, and the Shadespire warband. That is a lot of focus from the design studio, and it doesn't really translate at all into AoS. Yes they will have warscrolls, but as we can see from literally every underworlds warband, it doesn't really work to take a small warband of a few unique models and shove it into AoS.
For Darkoath to get a proper release, you'd need several new kits beyond all the work that was done for underworlds and warcry. It is possible that the design studio started working on what would potentially be an AoS release, but for some reason got turned into warcry.
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5 minutes ago, zamerion said:
Nothing about a new goblin hero?
Since they just got so much new stuff, and have so many warscrolls, if anything i would expect an old hero to get a new plastic sculpt. Candidates (imo) include:
Madcap shaman
Scuttleboss
Loonboss on Giant Cave Squig
or maybe an alternate sculpt for normal Loonboss...
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13 minutes ago, The Golem said:
What did it say? (I'm deaf and there aren't subtitles)
Can you feel it? Something has changed...The dark prince's bonds are slipping.
When the blood good bellowed his wrath across the realms Slaneesh heard only love.When Sigmar's chosen spilled the blood of innocents, the God of Excess drank deep.
And when Nagash's schemes nearly shattered the realm, so too did he sunder the chains of my Lord.
All love Slaneesh, all worship Saneesh, all serve Slaneesh
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@Overread I just get the impression that there aren't that many of the "normal Aelves" otherwise why are the leaders trying to create armies out of Slaneesh Souls?? In the lore it seems like early on they even had a hard time finding other aelves in the realms
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12 hours ago, Thiagoma said:
Why? 90% plastics, why not just add MORE models to it like DoK or Grotts?
Swifthawks are based on Hyish, for example, why wouldnt they be on Tyrions army?
10 hours ago, Vexcor said:Elfes are a key faction in every fantasy game, they will give them some love. its just a madder of time
Couple of points I think are important.
1. GW has already shown us how they envision Aleves in AoS. Twisted by the corruption of Slanesh. DoK, Iodoneth, and whatever Malerion has been cooking.
I think obviously Tyrion and Teclis will have found a way to "fix" their aelves, but they probably had to do SOMETHING to them to purify them... it's very possible they won't look like WFB aelves. Even if they do, the old minis likely won't fit. They are too stiff, too rank and file. With the gloomspite release, the aesthetic was changed VERY little. and the grots are so short that it was fine to just leave the existing plastic kit. With DoK, witch aleves were not basic infantry in WFB. Their poses are fantastic, very dynamic. They work great in AoS.
Besides, a lot of the modern high Aelf models people have are from Island of Blood, which are no longer (and never will be) in production.
I suspect all new models, all new units. It would be cool if they recommend counts as from old > new aelves, but you'll probably be on your own there.
6 hours ago, Kaz said:I honestly feel like Seraphon are possible for a significant release, like Gloomspite Gitz scale release. But they would be more of a major ‘un, methinks
2Really think Seraphon is much closer to Skaven than Gloomspite:
1. Moonclan - Very few models to start with, needed a lot of new kits to be a main faction. The only "big" model (old mangler) had a lot of problems
2. Skaven - HUGE range, though much of it metal, plenty of plastic kits. Some "big" plastic kits (thanquol, bell, WLC, verminlord, HPA, etc)
3. Seraphon - HUGE range, though much of it resin (GW likes resin more than metal even). Some "big" plastic kits (carnosaur, bastiladon, stegadon)If they are willing to punt on Skaven model refresh, they are willing to punt on Seraphon model refresh. Just battletome + spells +terrain. no new models for a few years. In the next few years they are still trying to get their planned new factions out, and are saving their existing faction model refreshes for factions that really need it (example, Moonclan, Slaneesh, STD, Gutbusters)
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3 minutes ago, Requizen said:
9 factions with no Battletome
Slaneesh
Gutbusters/Ogors
Free Peoples
Disposessed
Aleves
Those are the only 5 I can see, and honestly I have a hard time seeing the last 3
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12 minutes ago, Zubrin said:
If your source is correct, then it may be possible that the purported wishlister might have not been wishlisting at all. End of March/Early April was their prediction with a terrain piece and 3 spells (one was an ethereal/summoned dino of sorts).
It is REALLY not hard to predict Seraphon is coming considering they have one of the oldest battletomes, their currently battletome is wildly inaccurate due to most of the rules being in GHB/errata, and the Slanns being the "masters of magic" without any spell lores or endless spells. Battleforce to clear out the existing stock of battletomes, now time to release a new one! (hope everyone here waited...)
Anyone predicting Seraphon this yearhas a >50% chance of being right, not necessarily a prophet. Same with KO/Slyvaneth/Ironjaws/StD/Slaneesh
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The Rumour Thread
in Age of Sigmar Discussions
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Sorry, Darkoath is not new if half of their range is Slaves to Darkness / Everchosen.
I am also in the boat of "Darkoath is not happening" , in the sense that I think that Warcry/Underworlds warband makes up the bulk of any new miniatures to the Slaves to Darkness, and we know from Underworlds that these little warbands do not translate well to AoS (though I'm sure they'll have warscrolls, you won't want an army of them).
Maybe there will be a battletome+spells+terrain release that includes STD + everchosen + warcry. Maybe they will call it Darkoath ( I suspect not) but it's not a new army.