El Syf
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I love morghasts! Personally i find the sword armed models no to my liking and -2 rend 3 damage has always appealed more to me. The 3D6 charge presents another problem in that they usually end up to far away from a hero to get the 6+ save.
Also in grand host they get an extra attack as well which almost makes them worth the points. I'm really hoping the Bonereapers tome drops them further in points or changes the warscroll somehow; maybe we will finally find out what the reanimant keyword means?
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2 hours ago, RuneBrush said:
I think it's important to remember that the model we place on the tabletop isn't necessarily going to live up to the legend that they've got in stories and the background. In all honesty a book that was written based on what happens during a game wouldn't actually be very interesting!
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Because of this some characters are able to perform actions that could never be represented on the tabletop - Nagash killing Tamra's clan in Undying King for example is a good example of this. Equally his ability to release his essence from his physical form, trundle off somewhere else and then rebuild a body from skeletons and bones nearby isn't something that we're going to be able to do in a game. Nothing stopping you coming up with some appropriate rules with some friends though!
This is exactly why there has never and will never be rules and a model for Abhorash: he's just too good
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I would really like some sort of challenge issuing ala oldhammer in the game, so you can have hero on hero without getting shafted by other units piling in. Obviously this would need some thought applied as to how it could work or if it could at all, I just really liked that in wfb (and rank and file, square bases, flank charges, overkill, combat resolution, fear etc). Note: I do actually like AoS, just got a tad nostalgic for a second sorry.
As far as armies go, destruction and death are still way behind order and chaos in model range and battletomes. I admit I'm biased as I play death and we had the rawest deal going until LoN got released.
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Does anyone think there might be changes to the war scrolls of Nagash, Arkhan and the morghasts?
Highly unlikely but I though Nagash going up in points in the ghb was highly unlikely too...
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So Nagash is a God and is less durable than Gotrek? Right...
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Is anyone else just wanting warscroll previews already? And wishing September comes and goes very quickly?!
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The four limbed things just really don't do it for me, but if Morghasts can be included as others have speculated it's all good. Maybe Morghasts get a Ossiarch Bonereapers warscroll profile like the black coach ended up with two profiles?
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Not a fan of the four armed dudes but all the other stuff looks pretty good.
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It's not the death release anyone wanted but it's the death release we deserve...
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Quite straight forward, a vampire lord on zombie dragon has both lance and sword attacks on its profile. Can you use both?
I've always played it that you have to choose between them (based on what you've modelled it with) but then with Nagash you wouldn't choose between attacking with Alakanesh or Zefet Netbar, you'd attack with both. Sorry if this has been asked before, it seems obvious you should have to choose one but doesn't seem to explicitly state you can't attack with both.
Cheers.
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/08/13/the-rumour-engine-august-13th-2019/
Dead Stormcast, rejoice!
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19 minutes ago, BaylorCorvette said:
My buddy and I just started playing like a week before GHB19 came out. He plays NH and I play LoN. What were the huge blows to those armies? Dire Wolf & Grimghast point increase? Or am I missing something? Again, I just started playing so I very well could be ignorant to the nerfs, lol.
Nagash and the spell portal also spring to mind.
Nagash went up 50 and the spell portal went up 40 I believe(?) That's another good chunk of points to spend on the same models, without any improvement on them. (I realize a lot of people moaned Nagash was too cheap beforehand, but I don't share that view.)
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Trouble is they are so expensive, you can take another hero to provide a DM bubble for less points than most of them. Generally I would say that 6+ save trumps most benefits a battalion can give.
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Morghast coming down is great, iirc haven’t the mortarchs just gone back to their 2017ghb points?
Was actually hoping vhordrai and normal vlozd would come down in points, oh well 😔
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Some of the mercenary descriptions made me laugh, Blood Knights being heavy cavalry and trying to make skeletons sound dangerous. The only one that did catch my eye was the artillery heavy one.
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Some of the new nighthaunt stuff was grey plastic for a while, all my other models are carried over from web though so all painted there. That folklore of painted models do better than unpainted always sticks in my mind! Also back in the day some stores wouldn’t let you play unless your units were under coated at the very least.
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Yep played two games the other day, guardian spirits and unlock the vault. Have to say unlock the vault is a pretty fun scenario and the awakened artefacts/stormvault sacristies all make for a nice campaign.
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Was hoping for Morghasts to go to 180 or lower really. *If this is real...
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So you only receive an awakened artefact after your first battle in the campaign.
Do people believe you can give an artefact for the first battle to the hero you give the awakened artefact to for the second battle onwards?
I’m aware you can’t have two artefacts on one model, but is it in the interest of fairness to allow artefact swapping from the second game on? For example you have a hero with the dimensional blade in game one, you then give gheistbane to them for game two; meaning they lose the dimensional blade. Would people be mostly cool with allowing another hero to take the dimensional blade from game 2?
PS: this is in a rather casual group ,not too bothered by what would fly at top tournament level.
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Hopefully my copy should arrive today. Purchased it mostly for the lore as there wasn't an accompanying Novel released, which is all I wanted really.
The campaign also seems a lot more thought out with the awakened artefacts being quite a nice touch. Mercenaries are of no interest to me to be fair.
Endless spells seem a bit more thought out with quite a few of them doing something other than X amount of mortal wounds, which seemed rather a waste of the idea.
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10 hours ago, Sartxac said:
Vampire lord with command trait lord of Nagashizzar. This is fundamental in a list with 40 skeletons and 20 grave guard. _With this trait all deathrale units do 1 attack more if they are 6" near the general. Your necromancer is necessary for do attack two times your skeletons or grave guard in every combat phase.
In grand host of nagash the spirit halberds are better weapons than spirit swords.
In my opinion, the dire wolves work better as a two units of 5. Her work is be a screen to the enemy charges. I would use one for protect the grave guard.
Artefact? Ethereal amulet for the VLoZD (reign of shyish artefact) or balefire lantern to this dragon or your general.
The extra CP is very good for your wight king or vampire lord. 1-3 extra attack (with cp of VL and king more lord of naghasizzar) extra to grave guard or skeletons more the spell of the necromancer can make a excellent combo. Grave guard that do 5 attacks two times in a combat phase (2x5) is frenzy (or skeletons that do 6 attacks).
The VLoZD more vargheist more morghast archai can work as a hammer flank and the cp abbility of your dragon works very well in any of this units.
Spells? Vile transference to your dragon for cure live points of morghast, he same or vargheists. Soulpike for your general. And for the necromancer? I don't know, which is the opinion of others lectors?
I second everything Sartxac said. Ethereal amulet on the dragon is a must imo. Me and my regular opponent have a gentleman's agreement not to use it but in a tournament situation where everyone else can choose it you might as well take advantage.
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You could argue that the Sylvaneth book was the first proto 2.0 book, GW even said when it came out it was the first in a new style of battletomes.
As I said I’m reasonably happy with the book sticking around for a few years it will get annoying if there’s constant errata's to add new stuff in as I’m sure legion of grief will add to the existing ones.
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I agree there's lots of armies with existing battletomes that need a look in before LoN, it just seemed with legion of grief being added to the mix and the errata allowing certain nighthaunt units to be used (which still surprises people from time to time); an update might be on the cards.
Overall I'm reasonably happy with LoN and wouldn't be that fussed if it stayed around for a few years bar the recent power creep with the newer tomes.
Only thing I would change is morghasts getting a decrease in points and possibly regaining the summonable keyword (in grand host it feels right from a lore perspective if Nagash is general, similar to now how they are battleline if he is general).
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So after some other battletomes have been redone should ours?
After all sometimes points reductions aren't all that's required, legion of grief seems like it would need to be absorbed into the book for starters.
Nagash needs to stay exactly as he is I feel no points increase and no nerf stick.
What's everyone elses thoughts?
Lets talk Morghasts!
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I'm also in the ten Morghast crew, but all with halberds for me. Was actually looking to get a couple more off ebay as I'm blindly convinced there will be a points reduction again...