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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/01/08/change-is-coming/ My wallet is weeping.

I want to bring everyone's attention to this picture from dwarfs and art from 8th edition. AOS was pretty much developed since 8th edition and dwarf lore also stated they had golems in the likeness of their gods (that were never released). Suddenly we have rumors of a dwarf golem and the first rumor image most likely is a type of duardin golem/steam robot. Along with the harpoon image and grungi vanishing suddenly in all-gates I also recall sparks are seen in the skies of Chamon AND all the duardin holds in chamon are empty when the stormcast explored them. Also I recall rumors said they have seen dwarfs with some form of jetpacks, steam jetpacks and flying blips? Yes please, along with the tzeentch ironbreaker image. I think it's a given in a sense.

*grumble* I want to read the book but they have trouble bringing it up come on black library I have been waiting for a story like this. Also it's a legends book so it's not a short story.

I actually do think we may see something from them in the future overall I think the devoted of sigmar fit as the new main "human" faction for AOS. The stuff they bring out is pretty high fantasy and along with the excelsior war priest from sliver tower I do think they are in the pipe somewhere. Also the stuff tzeentch is doing? Part of their job is to keep it from happening. Also new novel is coming out, the link is not working on dakka but I shall put up the information. Finally a novel on a witch hunter character that's been like my wish it seems though we are at the fleshing out stage of the fluff. City of Secrets A Legends of the Age of Sigmar novel In the city of Excelsis, in the heart of the Realm of Beasts, Corporal Armand Callis of the city watch stumbles upon a dark secret and finds himself hunted, with just a witch hunter for companionship. READ IT BECAUSE It's an in depth look at life in a city of the Mortal Realms coupled with a rip-roaring tale of action and adventure, not to mention a most intriguing mystery, as you might expect of the City of Secrets… THE STORY Excelsis is the city of secrets, a grand and imposing bastion of civilisation in the savage Realm of Beasts. Within its winding streets and shadowy back alleys, merchants deal in raw prophecy mined from an ancient fragment of the World That Was, and even the poorest man may earn a glimpse of the future. Yet not all such prophecies can be trusted. When Corporal Armand Callis of the city guard stumbles upon a dark secret, he finds himself on the run from his former comrades, framed for a crime he did not commit. Only the Witch Hunter Hanniver Toll knows the truth of his innocence. Together the pair must race against time to save Excelsis from a cataclysm that would drown the city in madness and fear. Written by Nick Horth

15 pounds for the disciples of tzeentch tome? Sold. 136 Pages as well.

In context of that image and the rumor image I think it's kinda clear that the dispossessed/grungi duardin are getting the sylvaneth treatment.

He looks human to me personally I don't know why people think it's a duardin there is clearly fire on his beard and sword and red robes. Considering the magic theme makes sense it would be a human fire battle mage also have you ever seen a dwarf/duardin using a sword?

He is a human fire battle mage it's been said on stream.

Still hoping for a devoted of sigmar tome, devoted of sigmar pretty much laugh at chaos with the war altar. I mean fluff wise it would make sense for sigmar to properly set them up again considering the type of warfare tzeentch seems to be employing. In the grand alliance order tome it's the devoted job after the stormcast leave(after taking a realm gate) to spread the faith of sigmar to new cities etc and cleanse corruption.

Yeah I mean the tzeentch book is over 130 pages and that is Death's strong point majority of the generals of Death are necromancers after all what I like that different generals have different command traits. If you have a arcanite general you have your own table same with mortal and daemon. So it still has a unique take depending on who the general is and you can still mix. Just from the small glimpse Death can easily have a similar book case example the necromancer. The necromancer vanhel's danse marcarb can buff things across multiple factions skeleton's, zombies and mordants. I feel the disciples of tzeentch is what battletomes should be imagine if wanderer's and sylvaneth shared such a tome? Hell who know's in the next general handbook wanderer's might get easier access to sylvaneth stuff.

Yup when they eventually get to slaanesh? Oh boy I like this new format I think all the factions should get it. Devoted of sigmar together with stormcast in their own tome wielding divine lore and a mixed army? Wanderer's and Sylvaneth? Honestly I am quite curious how the second edition of the handbook is going to look like in context of the disciples of tzeentch changes. Yeah but considering bonesplitterz and beastclaw raiders had the same format as the sylvaneth book. I am hopeful, I did ask them in chat that Death could use a similar tome and that Death suffers similar problems to tzeentch. (Which they do magic, summoning, lack of synergy have to pull from various factions to work) They noted my "feedback" will be passed on to the right people. I hope *fingers crossed* I do also recall someone on this forum said they should in fact that death works well as a grand alliance of sorts and I feel this tome is playing off that. Anything tzeentch can use the tome and mix stuff together without losing the benefits of the tome. This way Death can keep it's similar style as been displayed in the fluff.

As a Death player after watching the stream and how the tzeentch keyword is being handled? The magic? Command Traits? I can rest easy now. And.... I am starting a tzeentch army.... RIP wallet.

Daedalus what happened? Still I am quite excited for this release, since tzeentch and his lore was my introduction to warhammer table top.

I do think the second edition of the general handbook will be the direction the game will go down towards. I can easily see them folding in the wanderer's with the sylvaneth(example) if the theories are true that it's going to be a "tzeentch" allegiance book. Since it's called "Disciplines of tzeentch" it's a very open term instead of "Tzeentch Arcanites" I feel. You have humans, beastmen and possibly(high likely) daemons together in one book. We will just have to wait and see.

That's what it looks like to me since the battletome is called disciples of tzeentch. I bet in the second edition handbook the god dedicated armies are going to be one big happy family. Since it seems a lot of people have problems with how battleline is handled in terms of factions. Also if this is the case I can rest easy with Death.

Considering beastmen are in there and possibly daemons I hope this is the case let us all pray to the god of change that this is the case in tomorrows stream. If this is true I suspect the other gods will get the same treatment in the next edition of the handbook.

I hope so. I think this is the case because when GW asked for feedback on the next edition of the handbook, many people had problems with battleline requirements for certain factions and Tzeentch and Death was mentioned the most in people's comments also magic and summoning as well. Hell they most likely look through the books everyday along with the warhmmer tv team I suspect they knew many of our concerns before we said it. The amount of options this tome will possibly have is HUGE along with slaves to darkness and being able to take the mark of tzeentch.

What else could the rumor leak be? the first one with the dwarf rune on it? Also lore wise all the dwarf holds have been abandoned in chamon and in the recent campaign book the same campaign book where it said tzeentch is coming to wreck stuff, Grungi just up an left sigmar one day and vanished. Sigmar is wondering where he is. If my memory also serves me right sparks are said to be seen in the skies of chamon. So what else could it be? Save new dwarf release? Just like how Ghyran was slyvaneth vs nurgle. I suspect it's going to be tzeentch vs dwarfs and slaanesh vs Aelves in the future.

Yup tzeentch suffers from a similar problem just like Death, weird summoning, magic etc hell neferata has to pay to convert heroes in vampires. >_< Plus not being able to make use of multiple spells and some formations allow you to cast more of the same spell. Yet general handbook keeps you from using it. So I am excited for this tome and the lore. Oh and one thing we know for sure? New dwarfs are coming!

I am just going to prop up and say they changed the name of the tzeentch army most likely re doing it. We all thought well many of us thought they will call the tome "Tzeentch Arcanites" but instead they call the tome "Disciples of Tzeentch" and this is going to be a new "take" on battletomes. I am kinda glad Death has not been done yet perhaps they did not do it yet because as I have said Death is in a strange place and some of the factions are well... strange. Lore wise in the books Death still fight the same as we know em. Perhaps this battletome will have a mix of daemons as well? I mean hell they are mixing beastmen and humans I suspect the same will happen to Death. We have to wait and see tomorrow.

A Minotaur that can shoot fireballs. Along with having access to tzeentch lore I am going to do this army.

I suspect that's what's going to happen and considering almost everything in slaves to darkness can be marked with tzeentch this battletome is going to be mighty interesting.

Yup, depending how they do the battletome slaves to darkness stand to benefit as well.

It would not surprise me if they put it in the next edition of the handbook.

If it's a new take on battletomes this might be the reason why Death hasn't got a new one yet since I feel Death has similar problems to tzeentch.