[The Rumour Thread]

A gargant in the 300 point range would be good. I don’t want to see any models bigger than the current megas and brodd. But in between sizes they could fit in lots.

a female storyteller type character who buffed other units a bit like Brodd does would be interesting ie a non unique priest 

[The Rumour Thread]

Oh and yeah maybe more Seraphon. 
 

I don’t see any of the other factions being touched with more than one kit

[The Rumour Thread]

Aos 3 major releases 

1. stormcast

2. kruleboyz

3. seraphon

4. slaves to darkness (twice!)

5. Cities of Sigmar

6. flesh eater courts

7. Ironjawz (small 4 kits)

8. sylvaneth (smallish)

so we got 8 faction releases in third so  my guess for aos4 is

1. Stormcast

2. Skaven 

3. Fyreslayers (smallish 4 kits)

4. Chaos Dwarves

5. Ogors

6. Dok (smallish 4 kits Krethusa is a literal herald)

7. Cities second wave

 

[The Rumour Thread]

Argument for placing dwarves where they are in the above is that they normally release everything from one preview before they start releasing the items from the next. 
 

dwarves kill team and warcry are the things left over from ADEPTICON preview 

[The Rumour Thread]

Ah yes I’d forgotten that warehouse was closing !

so more like 

25 May abraxia preorder
1 June Warehouse closed 
8 June dwarven kingdoms 
15 June kill team and warcry 
21 June aos4 
28 June aos4
4 july genesetealers and sister 
11 July epic Tallarn 
18 July necromunda?

25 July heresy mech 

 

 

[The Rumour Thread]

So is our rough assumption that preorder windows over next few weeks are as follows ?

25 May abraxia preorder
1 June dwarfs?
8 June killteam and warcry  
15 June 40K gsc and sisters 
21 June aos4 
28 June aos4
4 july heresy mech ?
11 July epic Tallarn 
18 July necromunda?

 

[Warhammer: The Old World News and Rumours Thread]

There is next to no chance of Tyrion and Teclis being featured in the Old World when they are aos IP now.

I think probably that means Eltharion also is a no go (and in any event the war against Grom I also after this timeline).

I think probably new special characters for high elves is the way forwards. 

im most curious if wood elves get their full cast list - all of whom I think are active ?

[Warhammer: The Old World News and Rumours Thread]

Old world being hit by way above average increases compared to the rest of the range is sad. And we haven’t even seen what the price rises to the resin and metal look like. They truly scare me after the 2022 damage to mesbg when metals went up 20 percent 

[The Rumour Thread]

Would love Temple Guard to get an alt build with some shooting options to emphasise the sci fi bit of Seraphon. Give them the equivalent of the Custodes spears rather than normal ones and a shooting attack as well. Or maybe give them a proper souped up breacher magic shield. They don’t need to stick to just saurus with bones on their head anymore 

[The Rumour Thread]

Weird that the Gondor scenery box isn’t in the price list. Presumably that means it’s a gw website exclusive then 

[Warhammer: The Old World News and Rumours Thread]

Will have to buy the Wyvern and Giant always wanted those as a kid. Although I wish they’d also got the forgeworld remaster rather than coming out in metal 

[The Rumour Thread]

I can’t believe they killed the whole sacrosanct range as well. Really quite angry about that 

[Poll: SCE in every starterbox set?]

Generally starter boxes have always been a elite vs a horde

i think that’s generally a good idea

i think you do probably need a good human faction in the box which is either stormcast or cities.

you could however easily pair the horde of cities against say ironjawz or slaves to darkness etc as elite armies 

[Warhammer: The Old World News and Rumours Thread]

Supposedly the 2 arcane tome armies are for Nuln and Middenheim. 
 

Middenheim seems easy to believe given they had so many storm of chaos models 

[The Rumour Thread]

I take it from army Organisation being more FUN tm that battle line might be going ?

[The Rumour Thread]

Yeah I don’t expect preorder till 22 June and release on 6 July so we have 12 weeks of preview…

[The Rumour Thread]

Ok so thought on the reveals 

40k - meh chaos marine lords.

heresy - hoping the mech army becomes as newly affordable as the solar auxilia

kill team - the votann are half cool. The trench coats on everyone feel a bit too much.

warcry - the tree is silly and I’m now sick to death of gnarlwood terrain. Who on earth is building a bamboo platform next to a giant gaping man eating mouth ?

- sylvaneth are interesting but  abit too body horror nurgle for me 

- obr jsut continue to disappoint 

underworlds 

- I think the flagellants are too OTT and don’t fit cities: but happy designers can experiment in this game system 

- fec perfectly fine but not exciting 

abraxia - love the mount - slightly disappointed by Abraxia herself and might need to figure out a headswap

aos4

- trailer is brilliant 

- stormcast on bird is nice 

- the skaven reinvention is a long time coming but all the models previewed in the trailer look great and it just feels like we’re getting more of the style of the isle of blood minis but with another 10 years of technology improvements 

- the lore - it’s cool to see a big threat but I wonder if skaven blight occupying literally one third of the great parcb is a bit  much and a bit of a loss of a sense of scale, feels like it’s soooo rataclysmic that aqshy won’t recover 

- rules reset - I don’t think this was needed. Some of the changes like colored  phase keys on rules and usrs do seem nice but whether it actually requires a complete reset rather than just the 3 year cycle through battle tomes I’m not sure. Next year will be bumpy I expect 

 

 

 

 

 

[The Rumour Thread]

If they genuinely scrap beasts then I’d also wonder about scrapping dark elves and dwarves from cities and maybe all the finecast ogor models - just clean house of legacy models - which to be honest it’s probably now time to do.

[The Rumour Thread]

Yeah that sounds like we are being indexed. Which personally I think sucks. 

[The Rumour Thread]

So aos4 stormcast expectations ?

New Vandus 
New liberators 
New prosecutors 
New Judicators 
New Paladins 
New Lord Celestant
New Lord Relictor 
New celestant prime 

And the old wave 1 kits all die? Is that what we think is going to happen 

[Warhammer - The Old World]

Think it’s a much better plan for them to release the first wave for a third army for old world rather than third wave for the 2 launch armies. I’m sure those will come in the next month or so but at the moment getting a greater variety of factions some level of support is more important. 
 

I doubt many of the tomb kings and Bret’s buyers have finished all their models yet 

[The Rumour Thread]

Obr for warcry makes sense. I’d dearly like Kurnothi to be the other half but failing that I’d love some yhettees. 
 

Old world release might be more orc and goblin tribes sculpts 

[The Rumour Thread]

I want a plastic Grombrindal free on the cover of white dwarf and then given full aos rules and put on pemanent sale thereafter. I also think they should really put Gotrek and Grombrindal into the cities or fyreslayers book so they are kept in print

[The Rumour Thread]

The dark look amazing

so I think we see 4 units ?

1. Were-kin monster

2. chieftan on horse 

3. marauder cav

4. new marauders 

[The Rumour Thread]

They could add so much with just one wolf chariot kit in the style of the big maw grunta. One chariot could do shaman on chariot, warlord on chariot and generic chariot which combined with existing snarl fang kit would probably be enough for a army of renown