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I bought some Ogors to make two butchers for my BCR army (have enough bases to make three but I'm not sure I'll ever need three). I was thinking of using the remaining four Ogors to make the following: A. One tyrant, and three Maneaters? I have enough pistol bits to put on them. B. One tyrant and three Ironguts? But I don't have any 2 handed weapons atm. But I do have helmets and other armor pieces left. C. One tyrant, three normal Ogors. Not sure if I prefer this. Eventually I'll buy more Ogor boxes to make a Gutbuster army anyway. C. Make 4 Tyrants. What would be the smartest choice here?

Yeah I don't like the grots models at all. But I can see them being strong on the table top. I also don't see a way to paint them up quickly since they have some unique details here and there. Using your suggestion of buying two boxes I came up with this list: Allegiance: Beastclaw Raiders Leaders Huskard on Stonehorn (340) - Blood Vulture Icebrow Hunter (140) Battleline 4 x Mournfang Pack (320) - Gargant Hackers 4 x Mournfang Pack (320) - Gargant Hackers Stonehorn Beastriders (320) - Option: Blood Vulture Units 12 x Ogors (400) - Pairs of Ogor Clubs or Blades - Allies Battalions Jorlbad (160) Total: 2000 / 2000 Extra Command Points: 1 Allies: 400 / 400 Wounds: 127 It really hurts not being able to add the butcher. But if i go destruction I would have to split up the Ogor unit. Maybe the icebrow hunter can be protected inside the unit of 12 Ogors. I dunno.

Yeah I'm going to make everything from the Ogor box and kitbash all of it. I don't want to to deal with resin models or old out of print packages. Not sure how I'll make the Irongut's weapons but I'll figure it out.

I kinda want to expand my BCR into mixed Ogor. I have 3 SCB worth of BCR. What would be a decent 2k list using BCR and Gutbuster units?

I'm at a bit of a fork in the road atm. The new Ogor pack is such a good deal that I'm considering abandoning staying solely BCR and go Destruction/Gutbusters. I have enough BCR bits left to make some Irongots and a Tyrant/Butcher or two. But I can also just get some Yethee's and try and make BCR work. What do you guys recommend?

The warscroll builder had an really nasty tease. It let you put Ironblasters in units. Which made them much better as it would reduce drops, lets you buff an entire unit with spells or butcher ability. It also made them much better allies for BCR.

These are your best points imo. But we are never getting mournfangs for 120. 140 is probably the best we can do. They just look too good on paper. Which means nothing. But BCR is already easy to get salty about as a non BCR player. I want Skal to become a summon battalion and probably around 100 points and keep the hunter at 140. So 240 points for a cat producing factory. If an Icebrow hunter can keep summoning cats, then he becomes a threat and the enemy has to come to him while he shoots n scoots. it might stop some of the attrition bleed BCR is feeling right now MAYBE making him worthwhile. I honestly think though that shuffling points around won't fix BCR any time soon. We need a new book with new rules. We need magic, prayers, battalions that are post 2.0 and are made for the new meta climate. Mournfangs are maybe the ones that needs a point reduction the most. Or we need Frost Sabres to come in bigger numbers so they can be the chaff instead of Mournfangs. But lets hope that we get SOMETHING at least.

Is there any army build that can make a Skal battalion work? I've got 10 cats and a hunter now.

Best hope BCR has is being included in the rumored Ogor book that will merge Gutbusters and Firebellies.

Can blood vulture be used out of combat? The core book mentions that shooting attacks. not missile weapons or shooting abilities, need to be shot at the unit you are in melee combat with. I assume that anything that does damage to a unit in the shooting phase is an attack. But I really hope we can talk our way out of this lol. It's almost tempting to go with the chain trap to avoid this argument.

Anyone ever tried using Rampaging Destroyers (Destro alliegance) to cycle charge Hero Stonehorns? If a enemy unit is going for a Hero Stonehorn who is not in combat but the enemy unit barely didnt' make it (around 5 inches away or so) you can use Rampaging Destroyer in your turn to declare a charge, get D6 mortal wounds in, and retreat in your movement phase. It might be very niche. But I bet it would be kinda hilarious. The turn after you can just charge in normally for another D6 mortal wounds. If you have two Stonehorn heros you can use one as bait to get a double cycle charge in. Against shooting armies this will probably fail but still.

Got some close ups of the crypt horrors? They seem cool!

You can alleviate two of those problems by going proxy. Chaos warhounds for example come on the right base size and have 10 in the box for 20 dollars. And they look better than cats.

For Eurlbad. The +1 to damage counts for the Huskard's Stonehorn as well right? The core book for 2.0 specifically says that mounts cannot benefit from Command Abilities and Artifacts unless noted otherwise. It makes no mention of battalion effects (which what Eurlbad is). Also it says "the Huskards melee weaponS". Seeing as the Huskard cannot carry a melee weapon (only missle weapons) I'm just going to assume that it does apply to the mount as well then. I just want to have this clear before I unleash a 6/4+/3+/-2/4 attack on the table. It will raise some eyebrows for sure.

Something is wrong with the new Ogors box. It says it comes with 40mm bases. But they should come on 50mm. Misprint maybe?

Holy ****** the new Ogor box is so nice! Stupidly cheap box as well (cheaper than 3 Bullgors...). If anything you can use it for kitbashing and still have some Ogors left to field! And the new Chaos Warhound box comes with the correct base size for use as Frost Sabres! The scraplauncher / ironclaster is nice, but not sure if I'll use it. It's cheap though!

I really just want the finecast models to be rotated out. Every BCR player wants it. It really holds the army down but the Start Collecting box keeps it up for now. BCR getting a dedicated mage or priest (on behemoth if possible) would be amazing. Priests are in the lore. Huskard on Thunderstusks basically are priests. Obvious answer would to re-purpose the Huskard on Thundertusk. But we all rather want new units of course.

So there is a big chance we are getting a new tome? I can't find the tome on the GW site any more.

Anyone here still plays Warrior Chamber? I only started playing this year and I can't keep up with all these chambers lol. Only non Warrior chamber stuff I have is a Knight-Incantor and a Lord cele on dracoth (if you don't count extremis)

I really like the Bolster Faith prayer in 1000 points or less games. 3+ for no battle shock test until next hero phase (basically old Inspiring presence) is really nice since it free's up an command point you would maybe had to save for the battle shock phase.

I'm really in doubt on what load out to give my Judicators. I mainly need them to hit hero's. So the look out sir hurts the skybolts a lot. An option might be to have a unit of skybolts with a thunderbolt crossbow in there. But that seems gimmicky and i'm not sure I like it. I have 10 on sprue, What do you guys recommend?

Stormcast bro's I have a question. I have 10 liberators on sprue. I have 20 already built and painted with hammers and shields. What should I do with the remaining 10? Dual weapons or also make them hammers and shields so I can field a unit of 30 liberators?