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I ignore GDubs mental madness and just keep on playing with the 2.0 rules…
For that treehugging daffodil-muncher who wrote the legacy rules, we have a special rack installed in my fortress dungeon 😈
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34 minutes ago, Craze said:
the Vargskyr has any place in a semi-competitive list?
Two vargskyr cost more than a unit of bloodknights… (2x115 vs 195),
16hp vs 15 but 5+/5++ vs 3+\6++, which also favors the knights8 claws + 2 maws vs 16 lances, I dare say on the charge knights win and without the vargskyr are only slightly better (no math applied)
knights are faster and with Riders very mobile, but have a bigger footprint.
Soooo I think fluff list or maybe even better outflanking distraction carnifex 🤔
deepstriking in a Legion of Night list it should be able to crush objective babysitters
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On 3/19/2022 at 7:21 PM, bonzai said:
What are your thoughts?
Bill is cheating… rumor says he knows the opponents list better than his poor victim 🤣
I failed miserably with a horde approach, but it might be skill, battleplan and opponent. The Ironjawz were delighted to trample over me.
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5 hours ago, Blutsteigen said:
Or does it almost
entirely depend on opponents army and list?
This… 🤷🏿♀️ and scenario
I usually prefer going second, this has nothing to do with fear of the double turn, it is tactical finesse and a lay back attitude.
if you’re somehow able to get a reasonable alpha strike or block objectives, it might be an idea to launch at it
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14 hours ago, OmarLkgaming said:
was thinking of this list and wish feedback on it. Thanks.
First and foremost:
I think your efforts to field a thematic list deserves to be praised…
🍷🧛🏻♂️👍
but 20 zombies don’t really do any damage (3 motals and a wound maybe) and against anything with a bit hitting power, they dissolve pretty fast.
If you want to stick to the theme, switch in some grave guards. Or think about bloodknights, with the venga, they are very tanky… and do damage
Our baselines are too slow, don’t really do damage (except all buffs are on) and don’t regenerate like they used to in 2.0.
my 60 zombers, 2x40 skellis regeneration list was pretty decent in 2.0, but just doesn’t deliver anymore
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5 hours ago, pontiff said:
was considering wolves instead of varghiests
With Gravelords you‘ll always have to consider a lot of different options and playstyles… and will get a lot of advice in all directions
(🤔except for black knights, only GW thinks you should field them)
purist bloodknights is possible, maybe a vangorian hero or the coven throne 🤔
a second VloZd (FEC start collecting box) with more Vargheist and 10 wanna be zombies
but your list looks cool, just throw it on the table and get used to it. Then you can make an informed decision what path you’ll want to walk. Belladamma is great, Mannfred is funny, guards are strong, all the different styles can be explored when craving and spending money is available
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6 hours ago, Wordy9th said:
I hate how such a squishy unit is battleline but some extra spicy off the board dps feels like it could be a shout, I shall have to test.
They have 12hp, are pretty fast and do decent damage… (4hits -1 2dmg) against grunts
also the deepstrike rule is a good one
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Finally got off my throne and took my inner court out for dinner to an imperial restaurant…
1k: Infernal (Dark acolyte), Regent (Dermal cloak); 6 Flayers; 3 Horrors; 10 ghouls… chalice
on the menue: Freeguild General; Wizzard; 10 Shooter; 20 Halberdiers; 20 Zweihänder; 5 Horsies; multibarrel cannon
one drop, let them go first… while I gave an inspiring speech from my throne. But suddenly 20 halberds came in from the left and rolling boxcars, clipping into my poor ghouls. His pile in almost stole my home base, impertinent fools…
now it was time to unleash righteous wrath and declare the buffet up for grabs… 0:7
Time to charge forth and conquer and hope for the double turn. My buffed knights have never failed me.
Deranged transformation with ferocious hunger into his Zweihänders, before they could slice and dice… and with hot rolls on the scream the horsies ran back to greener pastures after a stern look.
Then came the critical roll off for turn two… 😈
Well, that went as it should…
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22 hours ago, Bruteforce said:
the sheer aggressiveness of list 2 sounds like a lot of fun
Coven throne also sounds funky.
In a kastelai or Legion of Blood List things could be hilarious
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On 1/30/2022 at 10:34 PM, Bruteforce said:
Any thoughts appreciated
Nurgle World Tour left me craving for almost two years now, so my wisdom is lacking, buuuuut:
1. you do you, roughly 300 stones are your kidney
2. like the first more, magic and screening wolves seem to be more well rounded.
3. No2 just sounds amaaaziiing and trve
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1 hour ago, Wordy9th said:
On the bright side, folks better watch out for Belladamma's exploding hits now
Her puppies could use the buff, as well as anything fully within 12“ (gg, knights…). Sad for the charging VLoZd, but pretty good for everything else.
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3 hours ago, bonzai said:
It looks extremely solid to me at that points level.
Looks fast
I always think three flayers are too squishy, but at 750 they might survive a charge and flee for regen 🤔 the damage output also needs to be considered of course, with 10 direwolves I could block an objective forever
not sure if
regent, 6 flayer, ghouls (690)
might not be better… throw in the lifeswarm to heal before mustering. Sadly 5 pts missing for the chalice 😓
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8 hours ago, Wordy9th said:
Anyone got any go to sites or recommendations for movement trays/bases for my many skeletons and zombies?
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2943412has a variety of trays 🤔 just need to find a printer 😇
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6 hours ago, Nightseer2012 said:
60 Wounds of wolves as a speedy blob actually sounds pretty hilarious
They were a thing for AoS 1.0 LoN… deep in the vault there should be a 60 puppies list somewhere.
Pure hate, no coherency, wonderful-
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10 hours ago, Wordy9th said:
While we're on the subject of movement, I feel this and positioning are some of the big challenges with the army that requires a fair bit of experience.
That’s why SoB mega are a thing…
the right positioning and delivery of the guards is a major issue.
With LoN you can ambush to steal objectives, wolves are nice screens and after the first beating, the remaining 3-4 can flee into new assignments…Same could be said for 10 skellis. Slows the general advance, but make a good speedbump or babysitter.
fulminators could be debuffed, longstrikes can be pestered with ambush wolves or bats… or riders of ruin blood knights
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On 12/30/2021 at 5:44 PM, That Guy said:
Same for all the other Death Faction Endless Spells?
Gravelords don‘t have endless spells and on the FEC scrolls Nagash is specifically included …
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17 hours ago, JackStreicher said:
If you use common sense it is clear that’s an oversight.
🤔 maybe 🤔
but GDubs has been interesting before and validated imba op 🤷🏿♀️
communication might be key, before you loose 2/3 of your available opponents (the casual ones)
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1 hour ago, Sception said:
Serous play tests are expensive, and slow down release schedules, and risk leaks, and GW dislikes each of those things individually more than it dislikes printing poorly balanced rules.
Your wise words never fail to enlighten…
and as usual, Big Daddy needs to be tested 🤷🏿♀️ Full lore access, the resurrection rules, the regen 🤔🧐🤔
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14 hours ago, Sception said:
they've said 'to heck with it, just let Nagash be completely broken' more often than not.
They seem to say „to heck with it“ a lot while writing rules.
The OBR escalation? access to spell lore and stupid keywords…LoN with grimghasts? To heck with it, what is the worst that can happen…
AoS 0.5? Nagash summons double, gets +3, 8 spells and summoning is on the warscrolls 🤯 Nagash Arkhan and a corpse cart could easily cough up 2k of models in one phase.
They just don’t playtest their rules.
but I‘ll run him in a 1k flayer list 🧐 and see what happens
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13 hours ago, Grdaat said:
Vhat happened with Nagash?
Got a new warscroll… like Archaon and Kragnos
He is the only undead now, who doesn’t get an undead save 🤷🏿♀️
His awesome Command Ability got changed into … something new (+1 to ward save for ONE phase)His interesting and strong summoning/healing 3hp to 5 units gets wrecked by „summonable or ossiarch“ FEC don’t do summonable 🤷🏿♀️
A new cool ability „supreme Lord“ let’s you reroll resurrection dice or add one to the number of slain models returned. That sounds interesting for Flayer spam FEC rerolling a botched courtier rolls or adding an extra model 😻but if that works for skelli boyz, nobody knowsAnd his staff attacks got upped to 4, also he finally gets all the lore spells
he costs 955 and the rules feel hastily thrown together. The loss of his old CA alone is hard to compensate and the new abilities already lead to many rule questions and unknown effects.
It is just one of those GDubs things that drive me into raging fits at times 🥳🤣
but maybe they redeem themselves with awesome Dawi Zharr artillery lines 🚀🚀🚀
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On 10/30/2021 at 11:15 PM, Baron_Bathory said:
The day of the hat will yet be upon us!
After the x-mas update burned Nagash to the ground, I guess I‘ll start playing battletech 3055 again 🤷🏿♀️
Enough GDubs shenanigans for the next years
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14 hours ago, Sception said:
Honestly…
Sometimes I get the feeling, that GDubs doesn’t want Nagash to be playable 🤷🏿♀️
whenever interesting lists pop up, he gets a point raise or they „re-imagine“ his warscroll 🙄doesn‘t need to be imba op like AoS 0.5, but now? You may take him anywhere, but he doesn’t get the rules and the warscroll was written in a way, that nerd rage and debates are certain if you field him… even thou you just went full fluff
not sure how the chaos crew is thinking about Archaon, but nighthaunt is just happy, that they got something for x-mas
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3 hours ago, Sception said:
mordants aren't nearly undead enough for Nagash to approve of them.
Then I demand a discount Nagash 800 points for FEC… 👻
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19 hours ago, Sception said:
especially since his invocation as written can't be used on any FEC units.
Well done, GDubs, well done indeed…🧐
deadline came quickly this year, didn’t it?!
AoS 2 - Flesh-eater Courts Discussion
in Death
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That’s the real trouble with the hordes…
60 zombies are a thing, because after 20-40 die you still hold the objective. And the more competitive lists have gorslav who brings them back with a cp
nurgle hordes have 2hp 5++ and can be buffed to 3hp
ghouls like horrors might be okay in certain matchups, but not in a try hard setting.
(Or you‘ll need the skillz to use them right 😹)