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Okay! It's time for little battle raport and thoughts. Yesterday I player 12 normal tournament with this list:
Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals
Leaders
Lord-Arcanum on Tauralon (280)
- General
- Command Trait: Staunch Defender
- Celestial Staves (Artefact): Staff of Azyr
- Spell: Chain Lightning
- Mount Trait: Steel Pinions
Lord-Ordinator (140)
Knight-Azyros (100)
Lord-Relictor (100)
- Prayer: Translocation
Battleline
5 x Sequitors (120)
- Tempest Blades and Soulshields
- 3x Stormsmite Greatmaces
5 x Sequitors (120)
- Tempest Blades and Soulshields
- 3x Stormsmite Greatmaces
5 x Sequitors (120)
- Tempest Blades and Soulshields
- 3x Stormsmite Greatmaces
Units
3 x Evocators on Dracolines (260)
- 2x Grandstaves
- Lore of Invigoration: Terrifying Aspect
3 x Evocators on Dracolines (260)
- 2x Grandstaves
- Lore of Invigoration: Celestial Blades
Artillery
Celestar Ballista (110)
Celestar Ballista (110)
Celestar Ballista (110)
Celestar Ballista (110)
Endless Spells / Terrain / CPs
Geminids of Uhl-Gysh (60)
Total: 2000 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 0
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 113
I ended only 8 out of 12 with 1 major win vs CoS, 1 minor loose vs Giants and 1 major loose vs DoK.
I wanted to tell you about some bullshits I encountered:
I loosed a game vs giants because it was Battle for the pass. He in his first turn kicked his OBJ OUT OF HIS ZONE AND I COULDN'T SCORE IT FOR 4. This means he could score it for 2 and still score mine for 4. Which also means max points I could score was 7 while his was 10. This is absolute ****** and this level of inteference into the scoring system absolutly shouldn't have placed. Not talking about a fact that playing SCE with very limited number of models vs Giants which counted for 3x more models that I have in roster isn't pleasant. His list was 6x small and 2x big. Each small count as 15! While big I think for 30 or 40... I would win this if not this stupid ****** with scoring.
Third game vs DoK. Oh boys. Remember whan teleporting shootcast list was universaly hated by everyone? His list was basicaly shootcast 2.0^2. Better, faster, stronger, without drawbacks... Block of 20 shooting snake with free teleport in hero phase while we have to take relictor and roll this damn 3+... Block of 20, cost less than out 9 and is much tougher... And his entire army has 6+ ward and -1 to hit in shooting. Did I tell about what absolute bonker new Morathi is? Just lost of words after this game...
What I liked, what I don't liked:
Liked:
LAoT is amazing. Super tough with good utility and amazing combo with balistas. Make my day.
EvoOCD are super because they don't need much support due to empower and self builded charge reroll. Drop them from the sky on the enemy back and enjoy.
Dislike:
Relictor: Look -1 to hit is cool and I could do -3 on 1 unit if I really wanted but I just ducking can't roll this 3+
Next time i will change relictor for 2x Aetherwings for bonus mobility and save 20 pts for Triumph. This will also allow me to stash everything into Azyr.-
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3 minutes ago, jhamslam said:
Yeah and now KO does it every turn with the whole army and people are like "oh thats fine". Like the KO army has on their warscroll, what is an ENTIRE allegiance ability for us and yet somehow we're worse off. Its a joke
Nothing new, sce are priced like hell. I don't know for what we pay for... Sv? 4+ is so common and weak now. 40 mm bases? Its cons. We hit like wet nuddle.
Look at the free guild infantry. They looks like beggers but they have the same save as SCE which armor is made from ducking core of the old world.-
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I runed Lynus with block of desolators to give them +1 to hit. But its hard to be in range.
I also found some problems.
1. Both Lynus and Sempi cleansing phalanx are super expensive, their points were not reduced in GH.-
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Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals
- Stormhost: Astral Templars (Stormkeep)
Leaders
Knight-Azyros (100)
- Mystic Light (Artefact): Lantern of the Tempest
Knight-Vexillor (110)
- Pennant of the Stormbringer
Lord-Ordinator (140)
- Artefact: Godbeast Plate
Anointed of Asuryan on Frostheart Phoenix (320)
- General
- Staunch Defender
Battleline
5 x Liberators (90)
- Warhammer & Shield
- 1x Grandhammers
5 x Liberators (90)
- Warhammer & Shield
- 1x Grandhammers
5 x Judicators (140)
- Skybolt Bows
- 1x Shockbolt Bows
Units
10 x Retributors (380)
- 4x Starsouls Mace
Artillery
Celestar Ballista (110)
Celestar Ballista (110)
Celestar Ballista (110)
Celestar Ballista (110)
Battalions
Stormtower Garrison (160)
Total: 1970 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 1
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 115
This should work i think..
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1 hour ago, Maddpainting said:
So you are talking about KO? As its the only army that actually is shooting focus, well give them ore defense, more movement, and some tricks, why do they have to be only shooting? They have no Magic, lack melee, they are the Tau of AOS, its bad for the game to be only good in 1 or 2 phases of the game.
Lack magic? Except abillity to take best endless spell in game (skaven triangle of doom) and cast it first turn without any risk...
Lack of melee? Endrigers saws wants to talk with you...
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Another thing... Where the duck is winter faq???
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Your army is underpowered. Its a fact. But we can deal with DoK. You you start and he doesnt have CP you can deliver heavy blow into witch elf and crumble them due to low morale. Otherwise always try to kill heroes first. We are good at it.
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The sheer amount of books thats Wh40k get is just much bigger. Also looking at AoS. Everyone saying that SCE are in good place just really dont play at the competetive level... This army is in very bad place and the idea itself that big guys clad in armor made from core of the old war their only way to win is to make shooting roster because they are way to weak at melee is disaster. Stormcast doesnt need needs new models. They have enough of it. But they NEED NEW BOOK with fixed warscrolls. Most of the SCE warscrolls were unchanged since edition 0 of AoS, times before first GH.
My sources thats were quite correct in the past says -> Slaanesh -> DoK, Broken Realms 2 ( new LRL) -> Broken Realms 3 -> Broken Realms 4 ( Vampirates for underlord) -> SCE + AoS 3.0 -> Deepkiny i Maggotkin
Armies like Sylvaneth, SCE, NH, LoN are in dire need of new book and yet they focus on Wh40k.-
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Do you feel the same way as i feel? Recents rumours tells that new edition have been postponed to q4 2021 or even q2 of 2022. I know that covid hit them hard but the amount of books they throw up for 40k is disgusting. They really should balance it between aos and 40k. As a stormcast player i really doesnt feel any want to play anymore when i knew that i have to wait another year or more to replace my very bad book.
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Azyros is superior to Venator, not only he is cheaper, but he brings ultimate thing for entire army which is reroll 1.
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Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals
Leaders
Lord-Arcanum on Tauralon (280)
- General
- Command Trait: Staunch Defender
- Celestial Staves (Artefact): Staff of Azyr
- Spell: Chain Lightning
- Mount Trait: Steel Pinions
Lord-Ordinator (140)
Knight-Azyros (100)
Battleline
10 x Sequitors (240)
- Tempest Blades and Soulshields
- 5x Stormsmite Greatmaces
10 x Sequitors (240)
- Tempest Blades and Soulshields
- 5x Stormsmite Greatmaces
10 x Sequitors (240)
- Tempest Blades and Soulshields
- 5x Stormsmite Greatmaces
Units
3 x Evocators on Dracolines (260)
- 3x Grandstaves
- Lore of Invigoration: Terrifying Aspect
Artillery
Celestar Ballista (110)
Celestar Ballista (110)
Celestar Ballista (110)
Celestar Ballista (110)
Endless Spells / Terrain / CPs
Geminids of Uhl-Gysh (60)
Total: 2000 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 0
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 123
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Can someone tell me what logic stand behind pricing Evocats for 300 (now 260) and gore gruntas 160???? IJ/Big Wagh have unlimited bigger number of easier buffs than SCE and yet we pay more...
Duck, I supposted to write it in general...-
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Any news about Stormcasts?
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Is drakescale amour worth it?
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Its crazy how in they same book they diffrently treat armies...
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https://tabletop.to/hammertime-6/ladder
So, best SCE come out at 31 with weird roster without any new things from Broken Realms. Roster with 60 libs and Patrol battalion did 0-3 and on 47 place out of 52.
Yea, besides Starcasts and 1-drop SCE are joke.-
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6 minutes ago, Marcvs said:
Well, there's a TTS tournament this weekend (Hammertime VI), 50 players or so. 5 SCE lists, all using the new stuff
Ye i saw that. While i wish them luck, i doesnt see how they could score better than existing top list like starcast or 1 drop.
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Its depressing that sub is silent just after realese of new rules. Maybe if they werent useless XD.
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i know that Prosecutors are bad but I badly need some fast mobile troops. Have anyone tried using unit of 9 with javelins?
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1 hour ago, Grimbok said:
To be fair, the patrol battalion is just bad design and liberators need a new warscroll, not a couple of pages of add on to save them.
Grimbok
To be fait our entire battletome is bad design and need new warscrolls, not a couple of useless new rules in campaign book...
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I don't know what you guys expected X D
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I really find these rules mostly useless in terms of meta gaming. I will try to use them but i really dont think that they will bring anything. If it was addition to current AA it would be great but losing deep strike is to big. Also our biggest weaknes - obscure warscrolls wasnt even touched.
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What you think?
Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals
- Stormhost: Anvils of the Heldenhammer (Stormkeep)
Leaders
Anointed of Asuryan on Frostheart Phoenix (320)
- General
- Mirror Shield
- Staunch Defender
Lord-Castellant (120)
Lord-Relictor (100)
- Prayer: Translocation
Knight-Azyros (100)
Knight-Incantor (120)
- Spell: Chain Lightning
Battleline
5 x Liberators (90)
- Warhammer & Shield
- 1x Grandhammers
5 x Liberators (90)
- Warhammer & Shield
- 1x Grandhammers
5 x Liberators (90)
- Warhammer & Shield
- 1x Grandhammers
Units
10 x Evocators (420)
- 5x Grandstaves
- Lore of Invigoration: Speed of Lightning
9 x Vanguard-Raptors with Longstrike Crossbows (510)
3 x Aetherwings (40)
Total: 2000 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 0
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 117
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What if the use new gimmick, take some cheap hero from CoS to give it SD then take AoH to double tap mortals from prime and drake?
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Yea, just take totally difren't army. Thank you for your input... 🙄🙄🙄🙄