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  1. My guess, and it is purely a guess, is that dawnbringers 2-5 will all feature models solely from a single grand alliance, that's been the case for the past two at least, and it sounds like the next one will be all Death stuff.  Possibly I'm reading into a pattern that's not really there, but I'd expect book 5 to come with models for chaos factions only.  They could go back to a multi-GA 6th book to wrap things up, that seems possible, or the rumoured DoK stuff could be unrelated to dawnbringers and will come with their 4th Ed battletome later down the line.

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  2. It says plastic right there in the headline.  But I would agree that I'm not totally convinced in the effect from the pictures shown, it would have to be a pretty different grade of transparent plastic to what you normally see to avoid looking cheap or out if place, I think.  The transparent ringbearers that they already sell don't exactly look great to my eye, though those are much older products.

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  3. The very granular hero customisation of WHFB (and older 40k editions for that matter) never really worked for me, to be honest, whilst you got occasional moments where you could use some weird combo of baubles to make 'your guy,' a lot of the time there were pretty clear best choices, so you just saw, y'know glittering robes + fencers blades, and dispel scrolls all over the place, or whatever the current top picks happened to be.  Particularly I did not much enjoy the WHFB 8th generic magic items system, where each item cost the same number of points regardless of who was using it, even though a sword of +1 strength is a lot more valuable on a base S5 hero than a S3 one, etc. so it's very tricky to even pretend to balance out that kind of system.

    Maybe one way to square that circle would be with a reworked and better integrated heroic actions system?  I don't need 'my guy' to be carrying around a sack full of artefacts and command traits, so long as they get to do some cool and impactful things over the course of the game.

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  4. 31 minutes ago, Ejecutor said:

    Lot of us agree we would see the FEC range, or part, announced on the preview. What would you say their army box could have?

    My take:

    - 20 Leaked elite ghouls

    - 5 bat raiders

    - Ushoran

    - Not announced hero

    I don't think Ushoran would make it into the box, at least to my memory it would be the first time a big, unique character was put in a launch box.  20 ghouls and some sort of cavalry seems plausible though, a couple of small/mid sized heroes and some sort of bruiser unit on top of that would probably do it.

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  5. FEC for AOS is definitely the safe bet, but my guess is that they will be receiving one of those book + new minis bundle boxes, and they will only show the models from that boxset in this preview, holding off the full range till the main release (presumably in January at this point).  We might see the next Dawnbringers bits, I guess, but I feel like they might sit on that till next year too, they've still got a few months to fill before they start ramping up the new edition hype train.

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  6. I think 6 fiends is an interesting unit now that they're allowed to spread out under the updated coherency rules, but that's 400pts, in my experience 3 model fiend squads can't quite cut it as replacements for slickblades cos it's 8 less wounds and the damage output is too swingy when you really want to be hitting that magic 12 number.  I'm not sure if the innate debuffs make up for 8 less wounds than min sized slickblade units, but maybe!

    Still, I do wanna play more with the 6 pack at some point, I don't think they're useless or anything.  I wish we had easier access to +1 attack buffs, fiends would love that.

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  7. The problem with slickblades, though they are certainly very good, is that they're almost mandatory in any hedonites list just by the design of the book.  You need to rack up depravity to win (at the very least you need 12 dp asap, ideally turn 1) and the only reliable way to generate dp is through Euphoric Killers. 

    So you need at least one unit that is fast enough to hit a favourable T1 target and with enough damage output to get those 12 wounds done, and realistically only Slickblades fit the bill.  (Potentially Fiends could work too, but they are pricer and slower.)  It's a bit of a flaw in how the book is designed, I think, there are quite a lot of interesting warscrolls in there, but because every core battle trait in the book rotates around the depravity system I find you end up pretty limited in what you can actually take in a list that won't just fall apart.

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  8. I think using Broken Realms to establish Kragnos as a player in the same sort of league as Morathi/Teclis/Belakor was a pretty savvy and clever move, but then his actual background and plot relevance was a big fumble in my eyes (But, then again, I don't hold a lot of warhammer lore stuff in super high regard beyond the broad strokes and occasional fun detail, so I don't know that my view counts for much there.)  The model I think is basically fine if uninspiring, but that style of cross-faction piece never really works for me cos it breaks the shared aesthetic cohesion that really make a warhammer army pop on the table, same reason I'll never really run allied units in my lists.

     

  9. 29 minutes ago, Nezzhil said:

    There are 7 factions right now.

    🩸 ☸️👑☠️💘🏙️🐀...

    This is why I've never been any good at cryptic crossword.

    Khorne and S2D, FEC and OBR, then DoK?, CoS and Skaven, maybe?  Though I don't know where the books would split in that case.

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  10. 18 minutes ago, Ejecutor said:

    Appart of the Kroots, is it common to have crossbows? My head links crossbows to AoS straight.

    So far in what I saw about them they were always carrying guns, but maybe...

    Aesthetics whise seems more modern than the Wildercorps ones:

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    The Adeptus Sororitas have their whole witch hunter shtick, so they've had anti-psyker crossbows in the past, I can't remember if they have any in their modern range, but it's possible this RE is part of whatever the sisters of battle are getting in their 10th Ed codex.

  11. 1 hour ago, Luperci said:

    Warcry does have rules for the kruleboyz killaboss on great gnashtoof, there's also the centaurion marshal. Could be more I can't remember off the top of my head

    Warcry has rules for a lot of mounted models, both heroes and plain cavalry, but (with the exception of the marshal, who I believe plays as a monster?) none of them have been warcry specific sculpts as of yet, though that could change, of course, there are specific 'mounted' rules in the system.

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  12. Yeah, his torso is kinda just a giant cube, and his arms are just hanging aimlessly around, like, The Warhammer should maybe be a focal point of the mini, but it's just sort of listlessly off to one side.  I do like his wings framing the whole thing, but then all the swirly marshmallow stuff at the bottom draws the eye away from that anyway, I've seen him assembled without the magic swirlies and he looks a lot nicer.  Neat concept, pretty uninspiring sculpt in my opinion, I'd love to see a second take on it.

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  13. You could have some sort of priestly anvil unit relying on ward saves, potentially, either as a hero that passes out wards or ideally as some sort of dedicated tough unit.  But I agree that the DoK book suffers with only having Morathi as a defensive piece, which does put limits on the viable lists (competitively speaking, of course) forcing players into a Morathi-based list, which then leads naturally into running the bow snakes alongside her both for the obvious synergy she brings to them and the fact that you can't really afford to trade units in melee when you're already 700pts in the hole.  The melee options are overall pretty slow given how fragile they are, so it's hard to operate as the glass cannon the book is presumably meant to function as.  I suppose a unit/hero/subfaction which greatly increased the overal movement of the book could potentially also be a solution for a fragile faction with limited defensive options.

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  14. 12 minutes ago, KriticalKhan said:

    The narrative stranglehold Morathi has (had? since rivalries have already been established) was one of the biggest reasons I never started them---it's the same issue I have with Death and Nagash, but the models were too good for me to stay away. A lot of Warhammer lore exists as a framework for players to create their armies and set their battles in so having something say, "This is how it is 100% of the time with no exceptions," feels pretty weird and counterintuitive to that. Conflict is the beating heart of every narrative, so even having them as hopeless underdogs is still a big boost to the universe and what stories you can tell with them. Actual model support would be even better.

    On that note, I really hope GW uses Nagash's (temporary) downfall as an excuse to bring back some other gods of death. They don't have to be equal in power, but just saying they're out there and doing stuff opens a lot of narrative potential.

    I dunno, Morathi's position within the DoK has always been pretty interesting to me because it is kinda precarious, she doesn't have absolute magical control over the various cults like Nagash, I think all of the DoK books have made a point to mention that not every aspect of the Khainite cults are on board with Morathi as the head.  But codifying that aspect with a proper character doesn't hurt either.

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  15. It does kinda look like it could be a unit standard, but it could also be an elaborate hero back/head piece, so it's hard to tell.  But an AoR based around non-Morathi aligned DoK, with restricted access to scathborn units and such feels plausible.

    DoK already have a warcry unit, and three underworlds squads, so I'd be a little surprised if it were part of another one of those.

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  16. The diamond cut gem in particular is a common element across DoK kits, and the shaping of the actual icon is kinda close to little Morathi's blade wings.  It would be a little disappointing for such a DoK looking design to wind up stuck in 40k!  (Like that nice, new avatar...)

  17. I think they're doubling up on 'seasons' these days, so it's more like a starter boxes every six months or so?  But either way, yes, they don't tend to release the boxset warbands separately for a very long time after the box is out, though it's not normally that tricky to find the models on ebay or whatever if necessary.

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