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9 hours ago, Freejack02 said:

I was curious about this! It turns out that math is a bit off - the LO overtakes another Ballista after 4 (not accounting for the 40 point LO premium). 

Comparing 4 Ballistas with LO to just 5 Ballistas, when taking into account only the passive +1 to hit, the1x shots will do roughly the same damage (7.76 vs 7.80) while the 4x shots will do considerably more (18.68 vs 15.55). I did not take into account the Command Ability, as that would require a lot more point weighing and measuring what exactly a CP every turn is going to be worth in 2.0 (50? More than 50? Less? Flexibility dependent?). If you look at only the 4x shot comparisons, the LO becomes a roughly equal buy after only 2 Ballistas. 

Also keep in mind that the LO passive +1 to hit works regardless of whether he is a general or not. 140 for just a hit buff on your Ballistas might seem a bit high, but remember people were taking a 300 point Celestial Hurricanum while spamming shooters for essentially the same purpose (I know, the CH is much more useful at range and shooting is less useful overall now).  If you plan on spamming war machines, including an LO even as a non-general is a solid bet. I believe his CA is much better suited for large war machines, like the KO Ironclad. 

Yeah I think I struggle with wanting to turn those 5s into 4s for the multi shot so on my head I really want the Ordinator even though outside of battalions I'll probably only run 2 maybe 3 max. The Ordinator is also easier to kill than a ballista which is another thing to consider. 

 

The hurricanum is awesome for the +1 but it's the wizard and the mortal wound output that was fantastic on that thing. I haven't used mine in a while becuse it did so much in my list I felt bad haha. 

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5 hours ago, Kadanga said:

I just noticed that Soulbrights command ability affects units wholly within 12” as compared to LAoGC which only affects units within 6”.  

Edit: Her spell might be the worst spell in the game but she only has one cast anyway and I am 99% certain we will get SCE spell lores in the new battletome. 

Oh I hadnt noticed that buff to the command ability. Its going it be hard to decide which Lord Arcanum you want I think. The Gryph Charger option feels out of place when they could have just not bothered with that and done the dracoline model in the box. I definitely see myself ending up with all 4 options though. 

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9 minutes ago, Kugane said:

How many ballista is everyone planning to run anyways? I may not run ordinator as my general, so I was kind of wondering between 3 + ordinator or 4 without ordinator.

I'm sure I read somewhere that someone did the math and your basically always better off adding more ballista then spending the points on the Ordinator. I have a painted Ordinator but I'll be using an Arcanum general so I'm not sure how often mine will see action. Unless there's still going to be a Consumate Commander equivalent. 

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I'm considering waiting until the bonuses are out to decide if I keep the Sancrosanct with my Hammers or if they are a new force. 

 

Also because I really hated painting robes over gold on the Ordinator and not sure I fancy a whole army of it.