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4 hours ago, LuminethMage said:
Yup, in a way I think T&T being part of one of the 4 elements would not make that much sense. They represent all of them (that's what they also made clear in the Teclis model, where Zenith doesn't have a special place, he mastered all). The Moon Spirit also has it's own symbol which is not connected to zenith, whereas the Mountain Spirit (and King) just has the Mountain Rune as its symbol. Btw. GW posted this : ). The Sun Spirit also has its own rune, not connected to any other. So only T&T (and by association the Sun and Moon Spirits) would make perfect sense.
I agree, the 4 elements seem not to be on a hierarchy. They always talked about sub-cultures, not castes or similar vocabulary which implies ranks.
Light would make really a lot of sense for zenith, and they might go with that. But it would make less sense in another way. The other 3 are clearly just fancy names for the traditional elements: earth, water, air, and then light? Not fire? They could go with the Phoenix for air, they also for some reason didn't associate Phoenixes with Realm of Fire, so it's possible. Traditionally though the Phoenix a symbol of the Sun (and fire of course). So my guess would be the Sun Spirit is the phoenix-dragon monster we saw on the Dawnrider banner (again Sun is part of the name of the unit). And comes with Tyrion. Wind I think would be connected to another wind creature. But how this all connects with Zenith, I have no idea.
On the other hand on some of the pictures the Phoenix emerges out of a burning brazier, very similar to what the veiled lady is holding. So it could be wind. : )
Really looking forward to how this all comes together. We also have the different nations within the Lumineth. I guess all the nations are made up of the 4 sub-cultures, but it could be that one predominates some of the nations.
And they just showed this on FB:
I knew the elves would make the titans in AoS.
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10 minutes ago, KingBrodd said:
I cant wait to see the Avatar of the other Spirits of Hysh. Especially River.
Same.
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Overall, the Realm Lords are a interesting mixture of something familiar and something new when it comes to the aelves and their kin. There are not weird like the Deepkin or twisted like the Daughters of Khaine. But more of adaption of a new environment and also AoS direction of making new units.
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Keep in mind that animal imagery or themes is nothing new in both the Old World and in AoS and there is overlapping with different factions. Also, Slaanesh should not have a monopoly on bovine related stuff for the most part as there is different kinds of bovines like Yaks, Bison, and so on.
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/03/10/revealed-at-gamagw-homepage-post-3fw-homepage-post-4/
The link to the page.
Archers are Auralan Sentinels
Mage hero is a Alarith Stonemage
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I'm going to guess that this guy might be a Mortarch or something like that.
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12 hours ago, Aelfric said:
Could the Soul-thief be Slaanesh, do you think? I mean, Nagash regards anyone who stops him getting souls as a soul-thief, not just Sigmar.
Considering there are references to Sigmar by other names in the video, the Soul-thief is pretty much Sigmar.
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I think it has to be someone new.
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I would put my money on a Soulblight or Deathrattle army or something that deal with both.
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2 minutes ago, Clan's Cynic said:
What most people describe as 'Generic Tolkien Fantasy' they mean to be 'Generic Dungeons & Dragons Fantasy'. The vast majority of generic fantasy settings have Dwarves and Elves as tolerated friends, in the same way that 'generic' magic is everywhere, all the humans wear platemail, all of the Orcs are big, muscular, greenish barbarians, etc.
Tolkien's Middle Earth works are actually pretty different to what most would consider 'Generic Tolkien Fantasy'.
Yeah, but that does not excuse the amount of stuff that GW ripped off for Warhammer Fantasy.
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9 minutes ago, Clan's Cynic said:
Uhhh...
Humans, Dwarfs and Elves uniting against the other stinkies in the world is pretty damn 'generic'. If anything, the animosity between them in the Old World was pretty refreshing compared to most 'generic' settings.
They ripped that off of Tolkien. That whole Dwarf vs Elves vs Humans thing is from Toklien works in the Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings.
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The new death battletome will be skellies, but they are in kilts.
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1 hour ago, Sete said:
The good news are, since the old models are now sorted, they can start making some new ones.
Yep. I glad they went the Firestorm route with this.
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10 minutes ago, Zanzou said:
Where are you getting this from? The SCE are literally described as crafted superhumans that have never been seen before. The free peoples/ people of the free cities are surviving remnants completely separate from this.
"The Stormcast Eternals are made for battle. Once they were mortal men, but they were taken to the Heavens and reforged by Sigmar, imbued with a portion of the glory of the gods themselves. Hard he crafts them, tempering each with justice and the raw energies of the storm. Upon the Anvil of the Apotheosis they are gifted with superhuman strength and courage beyond the ken of mortal man.[1a]
Only after long toil did Sigmar cast forth his new army. It was a bolt of purest order to sear through the darkness, a storm of righteousness to battle the all-conquering night. Never before had such an army been seen."
I haven't read anything to suggest that the SCE creation affected the surviving free peoples.
When I meant by the reflection of Azyr is what Stormcast look and come from for the most part. Stormcast, despite where they came from they go to Azyr and get transformed into something that can only come from that place. So maybe not that the Stormcast are a reflection of Azyrian culture, but what artwork we have of the city shows there is a small thematic connection to it because for the most part Azyr is represented by Heavans, Storms, and so on.
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The problem is that we have a weird definition of what a regular human is in the mortal realms. What some people refer as a regular human is something like a foot soldier from the Empire for the most part, but that only works with the background of the Old World because it fits the theme of that world and so on. When we get to Age of Sigmar however, things have change when it comes with technology, resources, and culture. Azyr is not the Empire and we get ideas of what that culture is from the artwork and models that we have seen so far. The Stormcasts for all intense and purposes is a reflection of what Azyrian culture might be.
GW is clearly anchored to the Empire models at this point and I doubt not a lot will change.
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I'm surprised this thread got bumped.
9 hours ago, Igordepolo said:Maybe they should give the freeguild a napoleonic/steampunkish aesthetic but with armor and weapons of the renaissance era, something that the Empire could look like if it developed new technologies
Again, this does not solve the problems that I have with the freeguild. This just covers it up and makes more like the Imperial Guard that some many people want than it's own thing.
Basically want people want out of the Freeguild is their glorious humans holding back the dark and all of that nonsense. They want Empire 2.0 or Fantasy Imperial Guard, which I think it is the wrong direction. I think it needs more races in that army and showing that the Free Peoples is more than humans doing stuff.
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11 hour ago, Double Misfire said:
Flesh-Eater Courts aren't broken anymore if anyone can take them
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/05/13/forbidden-power-unboxedgw-homepage-post-1/
Nice to see the Anvils of Heldenhammer getting the spotlight here.
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4 minutes ago, The Golem said:
They're updating Warhammer Community:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/03/28/breaking-news-dark-power-unleashed/
I love most of this stuff.
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6 hours ago, Dai-Mongar said:
You're making a big assumption about what they mean by "races". Could just as easily be taking about human ethnicity.
They are not making it clear whether or not it meant to be other humans or other non-human races. Free Peoples have human and nonhuman elements in them with different factions. I pointed this out when I talk about the stuff in the Grand Alliance Order book on how they talked about the Free Peoples. This changed in the Core Book when they mention Aelves and Duardin as part of the Free Peoples directly. Yet they basically wrote the Freeguilds in the same manner as the Free Peoples in the Grand Alliance Order book. T
The implication is that they are humans, but does not directly say it but the only examples of this are seeing the Empire models. This ambiguity is one of the major problems that I have with the Freeguild as a group. They are shown to be made up of humans, but the background in both Grand Alliance Order and the Core Book don't say it, but the fiction and the models have only shown human elements of the Freeguild.
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10 hours ago, Blightzkrieg said:
There are more human factions than anything though. Stormcast are all human. Freeguild are human. Darkoath are human. Maggotkin are human. Arcanites are human. Blood warriors are human. All of death are ex human.
We are missing normal humans, but that just shows how low of a priority it is. While it will certainly happen eventually, there's no reason to believe we will see multiple factions filling this niche in a setting that clearly isn't interested in it. Maybe in the distant future, but certainly not anytime soon.
You are missing the point of what I'm saying. This is about the Order faction in particular not everyone else. Maybe I should have clarified that part.
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6 minutes ago, Black Blade said:
I for one hope they keep a lot of the medieval Holy Roman Empire aesthetic. The concept of something like real medieval humans fighting these supernatural forces with gunpowder and steel is really appealing.
We already had this in WFB. Plus, the Empire or WFB, in general, is in no way a medieval fantasy considering what is in that game.
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The problem is that the Empire models are essential the "Cadia" in this case.
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5 minutes ago, Blightzkrieg said:
I think the Imperial Guard serve as a good example of what to expect from Free Peoples: one or two main lines of units with a few optional kits representing different cultures.
As is AoS already has an enormous number of factions (assuming FP, Aelves, Dispossessed and Gutbusters continue to be supported) so asking for more human factions when we already have FP, SE and StD seems a bit much.
I would argue that example is bad and it goes back to my point on how the Freeguilds throw humans into one faction compared to the other races that we have. That would make it worse.
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3 minutes ago, Overread said:
Aelves is given, but Seraphon and Skaven and other factions its much harder to say. It depends a lot on what the design team want to work on and also what is actually selling behind the scenes. Remembering that GW has the trump card in knowing exactly what is and isn't selling in great volumes.
I would say that Skaven will get more love than the Seraphon due to the number of people who love that faction.
New Gods for Death & Destruction
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The whole point of Death is that Nagash got rid of them all in some fashion. He is more of less the God of Death in the Mortal Realms.