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18 hours ago, zilberfrid said:
That's not really helping me make a bit of a mixed set of guards. (cheapest are 10 euro per piece for female humans, in Corvus Cabal and Godsworn Hunt and I think 4 per piece for elves in Sisters of the Watch). If your play location accepts non-GW boxes, go for Frostgrave Soldiers 2, which are all female and have a good selection.
My solution was to purchase some of the female heads from Victoria miniatures. They are mostly sci-fi themed however they do have some that are just women's heads with no helmets or wargear; just somewhat finer features and longer hair. They were a decent price so I bought 20 of them and added them to my Freeguild Guard on the assumption that they're militia and not all of them have helmets. Also its hard to tell a man from a women when they're wearing puffy shirts and bresatplates so the head was all the needed changing in my opinion.
https://victoriaminiatures.com/collections/female-squads-and-bits/products/bald-female-heads-x12
PS: That's for 5 heads with hair...not sure why it says "bald female heads x 12". 😛
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On 11/1/2019 at 6:57 AM, tupavko said:
I feel an urgent need to share with you braying people my immense scorn and hatred for the Game Designers over at Nottignham....
How on earth an Ogor bite is more accurate/dangerous than a Bullgor's horns????
I know that all of you hated those Ironguts as soon as you saw their profile and compared them to our Murder Cows. To make things even worse they have the same price (160 for 3 the bullgors and 220 for ironguts for 4).
Ok thanks, now that I shared my immense pain I feel much better.
I just miss my murder cows (...)and nothing more from the past
You already know the solution to this problem...
...its the same solution we have to every problem...
...murder them......and eat them...*
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49 minutes ago, JPjr said:
Also, lest we forget, the days when Citadel busied themselves making models of Dwarves taking a ******.
maybe they should recreate that in glorious plastic. it would honestly be worth it just to witness the hilariously apoplectic rage of Dispossessed players.
Oooh! Its limited edition! Keepin' it classy!
As for me, I remember buying my first 40k minis in Feb, 2003. I was 22 at the time and a senior in college. A friend of mine was waxing nostalgic about playing Warhammer in high school and he wanted to start again. I went with Tyranids, he got Space Marines, and another friend played Eldar. We played 5 games before we graduated and moved away...😥
Anyway it would be another decade of on-again, off-again Warhammer before I found a stable group to play 40k. I played a bit of Fantasy in 8th edition but once AoS dropped, I was completely hooked. Yes, I loved AoS when the game was released and really enjoy Open Play to this day. I'm one of thoooose people...😉
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I've played a couple of games with Hallowheart and their MW output is pretty nuts. Against Fyreslayers I dealt 20+ MW in a single Hero Phase! This was in a Meeting Engagements game so that was some serious damage.
Unfortunately I lost that game so that proves Hallowheart is trash, GW sucks, and I burned my army.
Next thread! 😎
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A Battalion that needs 2-4 Battlemages?!
Bwahaha!! My time has come!
I always knew painting the eight Wizards of the magical land of Foon would payoff!
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4 hours ago, Chumphammer said:
Phoenix guard Battleline
Frosthearts with Anointed
Some fire support (Maybe stormcast)
Phoenix Battalions (heals units within 12)
Lifeswarm (Heals D6 over D3 as special endless spell rules for freecities)
Sounds like fun
Don't mind me. Just gonna set this Lifeswarm over by my little angry dwarf friend with his orange mohawk. 😉
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This is always an excellent topic to discuss whenever it comes up. I know a player who ran into their first case of hobby burn-out and thought they'd gotten everything from Warhammer they could. As a result, I...uh, I mean...they sold their army and regretted it later. 😳
Sometimes keeping things in perspective helps when I get discouraged. I have literally hundreds of models left to paint. Nearly all of my friend's grots (200+ models), 50+ Seraphon, 50+ Beastmen, 30 or so Freeguild, more than 30 Imperial Guard for 40k, and exactly 1 Tyranid. I never let myself think about that chunk of hobby as one thing I need to complete. I focus only on the few models, seven Ungors currently, that sit on my hobby desk. I also remind myself that I have no deadline. This is a hobby not a job(by). I have the rest of my life to paint my toys.
I will paint some 40k Guardsmen and then switch to Freeguild, then a unit of Grots, then a big monster or vehicle. I'm currently selecting Beastmen models to paint by rolling randomly on a D6.1-3: Infantry or 4-6: Other
then, then,
1-3: Command model 1: Hero
4-6: Standard model 2-3: Monster
4-5: Other
6:Endless Spell
In spite of this system I've managed to paint every Hero in my Beastmen army and almost no Infantry. Oh, the luck of the dice! If I'm really sick of my current armies, I've found that painting a Shadespire warband makes for a nice break. Something totally different that I've never tried before.
7 hours ago, flemingmma said:I've started making terrain from scratch, makes me want to paint stuff to fit in with my fancy new terrain
This is also a really good idea. Terrain is quick to build, easy to paint, and usually quite large. It leaves me with a nice sense of accomplishment for minimal effort.
And of course, if I'm really feeling burnt out from the hobby, I'll just take a break. Pack up my paints and models, maybe sell some (NOT ALL!) of them, put the rest in the closet and do something else for a bit. I recently started playing WoW again. I needed a break after finishing up my friend's Tzeentch and Bonesplittaz. I know I'll come back to the hobby when something inspires me but its always fine to take a break. We're all just racing towards the grave anyway, may as well slow down and enjoy the journey!
Keeping it upbeat! 😎
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4 hours ago, StapMyVitals said:
You'll forgive me if I savagely wrench the subject back away from the udders of daemons and the dairies of hell.
Oh, alright...
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6 hours ago, Skreech Verminking said:
From the skaven females, who are unable to think, drugged infinite times to produce more-more-more slaves and warriors, to die-die in battle, The warpstone infused milk is not needed and will be given-sold to the highest paying chaos-things.
That's actually what the lion from the Untamed Beasts is for. He's the barn cat for rooting out all those Chaos rats.
6 hours ago, Overread said:Seekers of Slaanesh of course. Far better source than furies!
Seekers are known for their high volume of milk production its true, however there's a certain quality that Fury milk has that can't be replicated by Seekers. I think its the fact that the domesticated fury will try to stab you during the milking process. Seekers will kill you as well (with their tongues), but they actually enjoy it and are having fun. Its the undisguised hatred of the fury and its attempted murder that adds to the subtle flavor and richness of the milk.
Now fury cheese...that really is an acquired taste and one that is difficult to appreciate unless you grow up on it.
PS: And just so you all don't think I'm a complete weirdo, all these allusions to farming and livestock rearing refer to discussions I've had with a friend who plays Nurgle. All of our battles seem to be metaphors for the pastoral vs agrarian conflict. Nurgle plants trees in his orchards, my goats come and eat the 'fruit', Nurgle guys chase off the goats, and the cycle repeats. -
5 hours ago, Kirjava13 said:
excuse me
Chaos people are all really beefy and large. As we all learned as children, milk 'does a body good.' So it stands to reason that Chaos folks must drink a lot of milk. And where else would they get Chaos milk? 💪
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On 9/23/2018 at 9:46 AM, Kamose said:
I'm one Skink Starseer away from having every Seraphon model in the range! I really like Seraphon since, in 15 years of playing GW games, this is the first army I've ever (nearly) completed. As for the Freeguild, they are my new army. The weird unit numbers come from conversions I'm making. I'm really taking my time with the painting and conversions, trying to match my head-canon. Right now the army includes mostly humans but also 3 barbarians, 3 goblins, a skeleton, 2 (a)elves, and a badger!
As a quick update, I now have my Skink Starseer (but not painted yet) so Seraphon, complete!
I've also started a Beasts of Chaos army with Slaves to Darkness allies.
Beasts of Chaos
1 × Beastlord
2 x Bray Shaman
30 x Gors
20 x Bestigors
20 x Ungor Raiders
3 x Razorgors
2 x Chaos Giant
2 x Tuskgor Chariots
Herdstone and Endless Spells
Slaves to Darkness
1 x Darkoath Warqueen
1 x Darkoath Cheiftain
1 x Godsworn Hunt
1 x Untamed Beasts
6 x (new) Chaos Furries
12 x Raptoryx
My Chaos army are peaceful, seminomadic pastoralists. They travel the plains with their herds of Chaos pigs and Chaos goats and Chaos chickens, milking their Chaos furries and occasionally going all Atilla the Hun on Sigmar people. 😎
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I've played quite a few games using the new Open Play rules in the GHB 19 and I've enjoyed all of them immensely.
I love how you choose what specific units to bring on while also rolling randomly for the general type of unit. It's a very clever way of making you think creatively about what reinforcements to bring on but with randomly determined limitations. Also the fact that you can pay for substitutions means you never have to worry about rolling unit types you don't own or can't field. So I can roll a Horde unit but if I really need my Linebreakers I can just sub them in...or not! It all depends on how silly or serious I feel like playing today! In all it leads to all kinds of silliness and I love it! My only complaint is that deploying within 3" of the board edge means the reinforcements that arrive late in the game may not do much before the end.
All in all these new Open Play rules are a win in my book and I intend to play a lot more games with them! 😀
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There's been a steady flow of ME at my local store. In fact we're having a ME tournament this Sunday (Fun n Games, Blacksburg, VA; come on by! 😀).
I prefer smaller games as well and have really enjoyed the new Open Play rules and ME from the new General's Handbook.
I think you don't see it as much because the online community has decided that it expects Matched Play so that's what they talk about and that's what they tell content creators to make. It like self-reinforcing confirmation bias. But that doesn't mean no one's playing ME. We're just not loud and flashy about it! 😎
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On 8/19/2019 at 8:52 PM, adreal said:
Is that the watchtower they are talking about in the rumours?
Oh my god! I hope this is true because it comes with my favorite piece of Fantasy terrain...the outhouse! I've had many a game where the objective was to get to the outhouse and hold it "til the bitter end"! Essentially a wargame representing a lax day for food prep standards at Burning Man set in a grimdark fantasy world.
Also that Watchtower is pretty nice! It would actually be interesting if this is the case. That would be the first piece of army terrain that's garrisonable (I think). Its also very fitting for the theme of the army.
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3 hours ago, SilverJelly said:
#releasethesnydercut
I had to look that up since I'd never heard of it before. The first website I found said, "The Snyder Cut is real. Do you want to know more about it?"
That would be a hard no.
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11 hours ago, zilberfrid said:
I was converting 30 models to be militia, so that's a net loss. I liked the archers, and was trying to add them to cart but the stock was out before the site indicated as such.
You should use your 30 Freeguild Guard Militia conversions as Freeguild Guard models. I also like the archers and it sucks that you couldn't snatch them before they sold out. I'd keep an eye on eBay after this dies down. The kit is very nice and worth having.
11 hours ago, zilberfrid said:The bigger loss is of course the general. Nobody gives him a great weapon, so if that's the only option, general sniping (which already was prevalent) you lost one save and the war banner. And yeah, the general we kept is horrible.
GW has never promised to provide models that represent the best options in the current meta but Freeguild players have lots of shields laying around in their bitz box, so glue one to his arm. However I will agree with you, that Empire Captain model is ugly. 😞
9 hours ago, zilberfrid said:GW stated the units would go to legends, which means thier warscrolls will get canned.
Their warscrolls are moving to Warhammer Legends. They are not being destroyed and the warscrolls will be available in a pdf on the Community page. The units in Warhammer Legends will not receive points updates and warscroll updates and so will usually not be playable in current Matched Play tournaments (but that is really up to the TO). The warscrolls are perfectly legal in Narrative and Open Play which is enjoyed by many more people that some folks want to admit. 😕
8 hours ago, Enochi said:But the method should be by creating models that makes me want to buy them not saying I can't play with my current models anymore.
Can someone point to me to a statement by GW saying that once a model is discontinued players may no longer use that model in their games? I can understand if, at official GW events run at actual GW stores, they require people to play with current GW warscrolls, however that does not mean you cannot use your models. For 9 years my FLGS was a GW store in NOVA (Northern Virginia). I don't recall the owner ever saying that we couldn't play with out of production GW models in the store.
It is simply unrealistic to think that GW can continue to produce every model they've ever made. Its really bad for business to make, ship, and store 1,000 Skycutter Chariot models in the hopes that someone might buy one of them some day. Needless to say it makes even less sense to keep the molds tucked away in case Mr. Fuentes from Bumpass, VA (its a real place, look it up) just happens to order one 3 years down the line.8 hours ago, Enochi said:Sigh this is such a cluster ******.
Honestly the "Best" time if GW wanted to can these units was back in when AoS 2.0 came out. People would have been mad but would have taken it as growing pains of a developing game.This was never gonna go down well. There was never going to be a calm, reasonable reaction from the fan base over this. I'm not sure why its impossible for consumers to be calm, reasonable, and reflective about what they want, but it certainly seems like it is. GW absolutely could have communicated this better and kept us informed more regularly however this was gonna ****** off a lot of people regardless. No amount of communication would've made cutting this many models anything but a fustercluck. Honestly, I see this as a "rip the band-aid off" situation for them; its gonna suck so get it over with.
Unfortunately, it seems my earlier plea to chill with the negativity and try to have a constructive discussion about something we enjoy has worn off during the last 24 hours. So I suppose I'm outta here until the book drops. Peace out and keep checking your blood pressure!
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1 hour ago, Double Misfire said:
I don't think anybody's going to mind if you use Freeguild Archers as Crossbowmen moving forward, only generals on horses and holding banners look like they've been axed - this guy is still being sold, buy a gryph-hound for each of your Warrior Priests and call them Excelsior Warpriests, and the Witch Hunter model can easily be used as a (very stylish) General.
My thoughts exactly about the Witch Hunter; General with a sweet hat! I actually had plans to use the Warrior priests as Excelsior Warpriests and the baby griffon from the General kit (😢) as gryph hounds since they match the size of the silver tower gryph hound. Not sure what I'ma do with my General with his "that's totally metal" dead-angel banner...
1 hour ago, Double Misfire said:Everything in this article, which kits are gone, the fact "Steam Tank armies" will be possible, and not a whole lot more.
I'm curious where people are getting the Steam Tank army tidbit from. I've searched the Warhams Community article and didn't see it. I just painted a Steam Tank and wanna know how far I can take this thing.
1 hour ago, Double Misfire said:I've got six old Wood Elf beastmaster bears who are gonna get riders and a quick drybrush to use as Demigrygh Knights, and have plans to convert at least one aelf Assassin to match the look of the rest of my dudes.
Riding a bear. Always a good decision. Give me my demigryph general and I'll be happy! Also update everyone's Command Abilities to activate in the phase in which they work!
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5 hours ago, Phil D said:
The CoS battletome got me really excited and I've been thinking about starting a free city, more on this later. However the down beat attitude coming across at the moment is putting me off a bit. No offense meant, I'm sure if GW cut the stormcast army I have spent two years building, painting and fighting with, building a narrative history that is currently 16,000 words long and increasing, I would be pi**ed off too. But wait for the book to drop and then start complaining, when you know what is happening. I am probably completely naive, I mainly read this website and the community pages and I haven't seen a list of models and battletomes that have been cut with a GW statement to say "You can't use any of these models anymore in AoS so don't bring them to our stores, thank you very much."
Could it be that the list previously posted are the only models you can select for a free cities army? If you want to use cannons, fine but they are allies or you can't use the free cities benefits. Who knows?
Please feel free to vent your ire at GW on me, I have thick skin.
I am still excited for CoS, mainly because I'm hoping for some new models to bring these 16th century Austrian pikemen up to the 21st century, but even so, I have plans to add some freepeoples to my army.
Its really quite nice to see this sentiment. I have a Free Peoples army and all of my Freeguild Generals, Archers (75% of the ranged infantry in my army), War Priests, and Witch Hunter were cut. However I'm still excited about this book too and fully intend to use these models in future games.
I'm excited to see what new ways there are to play with my toys and to learn which city appeals to me. I have an idea it may be Hammerhal or The Living City but I want to read the rules and lore first. I'm interested to see what new models we get too. There may be a suite of new models or just a terrain piece and Endless Spells but, in either case, I'm fine with it. Especially because I have no idea what kind of terrain or spells they could release that would represent all the Free Cities. Secretly, I'm hoping for a new Freeguild General model on a demigryph, please.
I don't know if you are a Warhammer veteran or joined after the launch of AoS but this thread's reaction is pretty much par for the course when a new book is released. Its inflamed this time because they are discontinuing models and people are understandably upset. Once the book is released this doom-saying attitude will blow over. Once we have the book, most people will be too excited to play with their toys to worry much about which General model they're using and the rest will sell off their Free Peoples on eBay and move on since they won't really have any other choice at that point beyond screaming into the void.
In the meantime, I really wish people would spend less time complaining at other (mainly) sympathetic people who can do nothing about the problem and more time discussing what makes them excited about this release. It gets wearisome and drives people away from what should be a place of excitement over this hobby we all enjoy. Call me cynical but, for the time being, I think we'll see many more people vigorously defending their right to wallow in anger and resentment rather than trying to be constructive. However in the name of constructive discussion, I have some questions for us to consider.- What do we know?
- What don't we know but want to know?
- Are you planning any conversions/purchases for the new book?
- What do you hope for and expect in terms of rules changes, warscroll updates, allegiance abilities, city abilities, spell lores, artifacts?
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9 minutes ago, dekay said:
This one is a bit baffling, given that they left the kit that allows you to build *actual Karl Franz*
That's not Karl Franz. In the new lore his name is Farl Kranz!
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7 minutes ago, madmac said:
I'm not even complaining at this point, I just don't understand how people are reading the grand designs of the cunningly crafted CoS battletome in the mix. The point was to remove models they didn't want to support anymore, and they did.
That's my point as well. There are no grand designs and GW didn't axe High Elves because they hate elves or hate elf players or suck at their jobs. They did it to reduce the amount of inventory they have to create and store especially for the products that were not selling as highly as they expected. Beyond that are concerns about game design and redundancy in the Battletome itself.
Lastly are lore concerns. As annoying as inconsistency in the lore is, they can change it to be whatever they want at any time that suits them. To put it another way, they can easily change the lore to match more important considerations but its pretty damn hard to adjust the financials to accommodate storing tons of high elf models that aren't selling because high elves are mentioned in the Realmgate Wars. -
1 hour ago, Charleston said:
I look forward for the "Sylvaneth killed the
Radio StarGreywater Fastness" Lore.Btw, I have 2 Boxes full of "Assault on Skull Pass" Dworfs. Any Idea how to use them now? Terrain? Basing Material? Tought about some Stoned Dworfs, like in Guild Wars Lore, that are statues now.
As others have said, look for pretty much any duardin infantry with a melee weapon and just use them as those. The model really doesn't matter that much as long as you are clear with your opponent about what they are armed with and the rules you are using. Or use them as statues in terrain, that'd be cool too.
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1 hour ago, SentinelGuy said:
A stormcast with a crossbow is a stormcast with a crossbow. Why do they need 4/5 separate unit entries? Same with the shield and hammer guys, the numerous stormcast cavalry etc.
This is agree with. I think the Stormcast Battletome is rather bloated with redundant unit entries. Its more like 2-3 armies in one Battletome than one unified force. This is why GW had to cut production of so many different model lines while designing Cities of Sigmar. There were nearly 90 units that could have been in the Cities of Sigmar book. With the cuts, we're down to 50ish. That's still too many I think, but the situation before would've been ridiculous. Every unit in the book would've had 2-3 other units that were functionally identical and redundant.
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7 hours ago, Luke82 said:
(I know, I know, legends is available, but playing AoS without the latest filth list is generally an exercise in futility so telling people they can still use them in legends is bunk).
This is extremely hyperbolic. This is only true if you play at the top tables in Matched Play at the biggest tournaments. In other words it is true for a small fraction of games played by an even smaller fraction of players globally. It's not even true at most tournaments or else every game at every tournament would be FEC, DoK, Skaven, and LoN fighting each other. If the stats show anything it's that there are a huge variety of armies at every event. I don't think all the Beastclaw, Slaves to Darkness, Stormcast, Seraphon, etc. players are masochists that just enjoy losing every game...which is good since they don't lose every game. They even 'gasp' win some tournaments!
Of course legends is not available in Matched Play and for those of you whose armies have lost warscrolls, you have my sympathies. Just think of this as a chance to explore new army lists and play styles.
As for models being invalidated, that's simply not true. At the end of the day every Freeguild Guard, Elf Spearman, and Dwarf Warrior are just humanoids with a melee weapon on a 25mm base. The only parts of that description that ultimately matters are "melee weapon" and "on a 25mm base". I can use my entire high elf army in the new book. The warscrolls that represent the model's rule might have changed; maybe my Reavers are now called Pistoliers but that's what Sharpies are for. Just cross out Pistoliers and write in Reavers...or just tell your opponent you're using your Reavers as Pistoliers. I'm sure that between all of use here we could find warscrolls to represent every discontinued model.
If the problem is that you weren't able to buy the model you wanted before it was discontinued, again you have my sympathies. It's unfortunate but others on here have already explained why discontinued models are necessary and inevitable.
PS: I know many people think this wasn't handled well and you are right. However, I would argue that there is no way to handle this well. If GW discontinued any model and emailed everyone personally with their exact amount of remaining stock, updated hourly, and predicted sell out date months in advance, this thread would look pretty much the same.
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3 hours ago, dekay said:
Sorry, just having a laugh, especially comparing it to the fact that the Skaven battletome had 20+ year old discontinued models actually *return* to the line. And beastmen still have THIS monstrosity availible in store
Hey now! You leave him out of this! He's a cute little piggy! 😡
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Stop it, you guys! Just stop it! 😭
Don't ya see? This is just what GW wants us to do! They're trying to tear us apart just when need to help each other the most! How are we gonna solve the Mystery of the Thalassic Troggoth if we can't work together?!