[AoS 2 - Beasts of Chaos Discussion]

4 minutes ago, TheVenerableBede said:

Hi all,

I have a question regarding Grashrak and Friends  - do they by any chance count as a single unit in terms of drops and allies contingent? Seeing as you can't have one without the other...

I'd like to ally both him and a Contorted Epitome into my Nurgle army, but the way I see it if they are counted as separate I could only do that if I had 9 other units, so 12 in total.

I'm hoping the winter FAQ will make the battalions like Pestilent Throng keyword battalions...

I am not very far into the competitive scene, but you pay points for one of the selections, so it seems like it should be one drop, IMO. 

I really hope they make the battalions keywords as well - it would make Grashrak much better

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Thanks all. I do realize there are errors once in a while, just wanted to make sure all the info I've heard is correct.

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Hey everyone, I have a question about Grashrak, keywords, and unit names. I thought I had it down but it appears I don't.

I want to use Grashrak because his spell is just great, and he seems clearly better than regular Great Bray Shamans. I usually play Gavespawn. From what I've read, I can still use him in Gavespawn even though he has the Allherd keyword, he just doesn't get any Gavespawn abilities / benefits. That's fine.

I also want to use Desolating Beastherd battalion. It requires this:

He has this keyword:

He doesn't have the unit name "Great Bray Shaman". 

From reading the core rulebook, it appears he doesn't fulfill the battalion requirement. 

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"The organisation section of a battalion lists the titles or keywords for the units it can or must include. If an entry is the title of a unit, any unit with that title can be used (you can ignore sub-headers under the title unless they are included in the entry for the unit). Understrength units (pg 238) cannot be used as part of a warscroll battalion.

If the entry for a unit is a KEYWORD, then any unit with that keyword can be used (including any units that you assign a keyword to)."

 

Since the battalion requirement is not a KEYWORD, he doesn't fulfill that. Ok, I can live with it, I probably won't bring him.

The one inconsistency I've found is this - when I use bestigors in a list with a Great Bray Shaman or Beastlord, they're Battleline.

This works in Azyr just fine. When I add Grashrak and make him my general, to me, Bestigors should not be battleline. That is a unit name above, not a keyword. But they do become battleline in Azyr when I make him my general. Is this just a bug, or an inconsistency in the rules, or am I going crazy?

Last - if I take him as the general, and I use Gavespawn, he can't take the command trait - does that invalidate him as a general choice in Gavespawn?

Sorry for all the questions, just confusing to me.

 

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Is it correct that now you can only get 1 extra CP to start from 50 points lower? So it'll probably change a bit, but i'm sure he can figure out what to use those points for.

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13 minutes ago, SwampHeart said:

In addition to the CanCon and masters lists Rick Myhill did well with BoC at BOBO. 

Is this the list you're talking about? I'm struggling to figure out what it really does - I'm just a casual AOS player and digging out my BOC from the whfb days.

 

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Bobo 2019

Allegiance: Beasts of Chaos- Greatfray: AllherdMortal Realm: Hysh

LeadersDragon Ogor Shaggoth (180)

- General- Trait: Dominator - Artefact: Blade of the Desecrator - Lore of Dark Storms: Sundering BladesGreat Bray Shaman (100)

- Artefact: Aetherquartz Brooch - Lore of the Twisted Wilds: Vicious StranglethornsGreat Bray Shaman (100)

- Lore of the Twisted Wilds: Wild RampageTzaangor Shaman (180)

- Lore of the Twisted Wilds: Viletide

Battleline40 x Ungors (200)

- Mauls & Half-Shields10 x Ungors (60)

- Mauls & Half-Shields10 x Ungors (60)

- Mauls & Half-Shields

Units3 x Tzaangor Enlightened on Disc (140)

3 x Tzaangor Enlightened on Disc (140)

3 x Tzaangor Enlightened on Disc (140)

3 x Tzaangor Enlightened on Disc (140)

5 x Centigors (80)

5 x Centigors (80)

BattalionsPhantasmagoria of Fate (200)

Total: 1800 / 2000Extra Command Points: 5Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 154

 

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I've seen numerous mentions of Seraphon being really good right now - as a casual player, what makes them so good now?

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7 hours ago, Killax said:

Best way is to preform two charges with two fighters still. One is almost guaranteed supported.

For sure. You want to use time trap to swing the game - take out one hearty fighter or two small ones if you can before your opponent has the chance to retaliate. It's pretty huge, especially when combined with cards that grant you an extra attack (orcs have one that allows you to attack after a move - that would mean move, attack, maybe another attack or a supported charge)