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    Stormcast: Cycle of the storm and Blaze of Glory

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    I realise there won’t be an official answer until the new stormcast book arrives and written with blaze of glory in mind, but in the meantime: 

    Is there a consensus on how these two abilities (from dominion, and the lord arcanum’s warscroll interact? They both activate when a model is slain, however scions is “instead of” removing the model and blaze is “before” removing the model. Is it possible to use Both abilities to activate blaze of glory and keep the model on the table? Or does this mean only one can be used (as if you activate blaze of glory first, it would have to end with removal of the model)

    AoS 2 - Fyreslayers Discussion

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    I’ve played my first couple of games of third edition now and have stuck with Fyreslayers for both as I figured they’re easy enough to use, allowing me to focus on relearning the core rules. I went with much the same army for both games:

    lodge Hermdar

    grand strategy- hold the line

    Warlord battalion:

    Runefather on Magmadroth (general). 
    -warrior Indominate -tyrant slayer - coal heart ancient 

    Auric Runemaster- prayer of ash, ash cloud rune.

    Battlesmith

    10x Hearthguard berserkers (poleaxes)

    Vanguard battalion

    Auric Runesmiter- searing heat

    20 x vulkite berserkers (warpicks/shields)

    10 x vulkite berserkers (paired axes)

    5 x hearthguard berserkers (broad axes)

    1500 points bang on. 
    for the second game I switched the hearthguard’s weapons around, and took heal as the extra prayer for the runemaster
     

    My first game was against ironjawz with a variant on the tankcrusha build (with an artefact that reduced rend by 1 instead of the 5+ ward) and the second against petrifex  bonereapers with two blocks of 20 mortek guard back up by a catapult, deathriders and various heroes

    For those of you worried that Fyreslayers are going to be bad on AOS3, I can certainly say that hasn’t been my experience. Neither game has lasted more than 3 turns and both have been pretty thumping victories. 
     

    Against the Ironjawz it was basically over turn 1 following the death of the mawkrusha. My opponent overstretched and went barrelling in with the mawkrusha (along with some piggies)- destroying the small unit of hearthguard but drawing in the larger unit early leading to the kill. The rest of the fight became largely irrelevant once it was down- an attempt was made to take down the magmadroth in revenge and it was close (left it on 1-2 wounds at the end of round 2) but by then his army had been whittled down to 1 ardboy, 2 goregruntas and a warchanter, and it was clear any comeback was nigh impossible.

    Whilst I’m liking AOS3 so far, this game does highlight my main concern for the future, which is games revolving around one or two big monsters are going to be really swingy. With a third of the armies points wrapped up in one model the game was very one sided where it went down, but on the flip side armies that can’t deal with it (you need -2 rend to take it off a 2+ save, or -3 if it uses finest hour or mystic shield- the only damage I really did was from mortal wounds) are going to get flattened.

    The game against bonereapers was a little more even for the first couple of turns, but went downhill rapidly for the OBR once their army became more spread out- only getting shield wall once per turn hurts them. Heroes of this game were the 20 vulkites- dropping into the opponents territory. 40 wounds with a 4+ save in combat (that can now be maintained against rend with all out defence) that is also immune to battleshock is hard for anyone to shift and can’t be ignored, and forcing OBR to spread out.

    My overall impressions for fyreslayers are they’re pretty strong. I live in hope for some more unit options in time, but of the ones we do have there’s a lot of good options. 
     

    the runefather of magmadroth is great, getting a huge boost from the new monster and hero abilities whilst being a bit cheaper than equivalents in other armies. The battle smith still feels like an autoinclude and hearthguard are still contenders for best unit in the game. 
     

    I still love my 20 deep-striking vulkites, and anyone who thinks vulkite berserkers aren’t worth taking should try it out- they definitely earned more victories than my hearthguard when I used them in 2nd edition, and apart from their damage output dropping somewhat due to coherency changes (which was never really the point anyway) I don’t see any reason they shouldn’t carry on being the secret stars of the show. One other disadvantage though is their initial target might redeploy, leaving them unable to charge the turn they drop in (the ironjawz player used this to great effect against them in the first game) making it important to put them in such a position that they can’t be ignored from the outset. 
     

    The runemaster is still, predictably, duff. He’s cheap enough at least but, unless you need him to power the forge, allying in a runelord is probably better, especially if you’re only using generic prayers with him. I’m also not convinced by small units of vulkites so far- they’re a bit expensive to just act as a screen now and due pretty quickly that I think I’d want 20 in a unit minimum in most cases. 
     

    if you made it through that wall of text then as a bonus here’s a couple of photos of the first game against ironjawz- we put the mawkrusha back on the table for the photo (it was in amongst the hearthguard but the goregruntas had piled in since).

     

     

     

     

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    AoS3 - Lumineth Realm-lords Discussion

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    3 hours ago, Howdyhedberg said:

    btw. anyone have a clue how the batalions from the battletome work? Because they seemed to update the buffs from those, so i guess we can still use them, but they are "free"?

    As I understand it, they no longer have a points cost and you can take them if you have the right units. But they don’t give single drop/ extra command points/extra enhancements and you can only use them in battle packs that allow them (ie not matched play)

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    AoS 2 - Fyreslayers Discussion

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    1 hour ago, Doko said:

    Btw i just read better the changes and battlesmith can yet buff more than one unit.

    But now only can be used one time per unit per phase,so i dont see any change and seems only a change in as it is written

    It dont says nothing about only one time per phase,it says one time per unit

    Maybe now we have +1 save against first shooting or melle and then we havent nothing if other shooting or melle attack us in the same phase?

    Isn’t the wording the same as the previous faq, just carried over? It’s how the rule is worded on the AOS app.  It literally just means it can’t stack (I.e if you had 2 battlesmiths, a unit can’t get +1 save from both of them). 

    It’s a shame the firewall doesn’t block LOS anymore, but that 6+ ward (with a small chance for a 4+) is tasty. 20 hermdar vulkites next to an objective with a firewall in range is going to be difficult to shift.

     

    edit: snapshot from current rule wording off app added

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    AoS 2 - Fyreslayers Discussion

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    38 minutes ago, Nadure said:

    I have never played a game of AoS but am thinking of starting.

     

    What do people think of using the curse prayer to fish for mortals with vulkite berserkers with two axes? Seems like it might be good.

    Also; if going for multiple magmadroths is a runefather worth it worth it vs an additional runeson?

    I'm thinking 3 SC boxes with father on foot, 2 runeson droths and a smiter droth.

    I could see that curse working quite well if you can get it cast at the right time, but curse is quite short ranged and unreliable on a 4+ so I don’t know how well that would work in practice. 
     

    2 Runesons are worth considering for the rerolls- I do like my runefather on droth but he is a but expensive now. That being said if you’re getting three kits you’ll have enough spare parts that you could swap them out. The rune father/son sits on the magmadroth well enough you don’t need to glue him on, so with two magmadroths I’ve built one dedicated runesmiter droth, and a second with a runeson and runefather built I can swap out depending on what I want to use 

    A Positivity Palete Cleanser

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    I’m really looking forward to the new edition- a lot of new stuff to learn and I’ll need to rejig how I build my armies, but it’ll be an interesting challenge, and it’s definitely attracting some interest in my local gaming group just as in person games are starting to get more viable. 

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    AoS 2 - Fyreslayers Discussion

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    Only a 10 point increase for the Runeson on magmadroth is interesting for a cheap monster hero? 
     

     take the mortals on a charge mount trait (young flamescale I think) then activate finest hour and throw him at something big- d6 mortals from his command ability, plus a few more from the mount trait (especially if big numbers on the roll) and an extra d3 for monstrous rampage and go out in a blaze of glory. Ok, he’ll almost certainly die immediately (doing an average of 7 mortal wounds from bleeding as he does so) but what a way to go.
     

    I won’t pretend it’s a good competitive idea but fun for a casual game

    The Rumour Thread

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    32 minutes ago, Clan's Cynic said:

    I want to know what intern got the job of doing Fyreslayers on his lunchbreak, because it feels so random.

    Hearthguard Berzerkers were The Thing You Wanted To Spam, and although they were stealth nerfed by the loss of Battalions, most people ran them with a Runefather General to make them Battleline anyway and they were/are still our best unit. Them only going up by 5pts was odd.

    Vulkite Berzerkers, whilst not bad per say, weren't amazing either and greatly overshadowed by Hearthguard and went up... 40pts?! What?!

    Even weirder is the Battlesmith being taken in just about every list, but he went down 15pts. Huh? 

    I never thought I'd say, "We need another Slaanesh Battletome already" but right now I feel for you guys and gals.

    Vulkites were 140 before so only went up 20 points. But yeah, odd that the hearthguard only had a tiny increase. 
     

     

    AoS 2 - Fyreslayers Discussion

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    20 minutes ago, peasant said:

    Here they are

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    Given most units in the game have typically gone up 15-20 points, thus is very good for Fyreslayers- only 5 points up on both flavours of hearthguard (and the auric hearthguard are going to have a field day with all our attack and plenty of monsters encouraged) and several heroes have gone down in cost. 
     

    Fyreslayers haven’t done too badly out of this I think, despite the core rules being a bit painful (no save stacking and limits on prayers in particular)

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    The Rumour Thread

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    51 minutes ago, chosen_of_khaine said:

    The increase to 200 points isn't even a rumor, that was some wishlisting that people started spreading IIRC.

    Also, and I'm saying this as a Lumineth player, the problem with Sentinels is primarily not the points (as there are plenty of efficient shooting units that are "fair") but with the warscroll itself. I would like to see the Scryhawk Lantern ability (that allows no-LoS shooting) to be once per game, or simply to be unable to choose heroes with less than 10w.

    Better yet, a rule where lofted shots can only target units with three or more models or 10+ wounds.
     

    I have 2 units of 10 for my current planned 2000 points. If they went to 200 points I think I’d have to drop one or both, but if it in any way lessened the constant vitriol towards Lumineth I think I would take that as a win. 

    The Rumour Thread

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    1 minute ago, Thiagoma said:

    Looks Sylvaneth to me

    Was just about to say the same- one of the hanging glyphs looks very sylvaneth (2nd from the right) and I suspect the one on the left is a leaf shaped one. An Alarielle update?

    picture attached to show the glyph I mean hanging from the revenant’s branches

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    Sylvaneth - Broken Realms Wishlist

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    If I could change one single thing- Allow verdant blessing to be used on a destroyed wyldwood to restore it. It’s a bit niche, and admittedly not something I’ve encountered in real life yet (due to a lack of games). But it seems to me these abilities disproportionately affect syvaneth, especially as if you lose one, not only is that area blocked but your wood is still technically on the table so you can’t even replace it elsewhere. 

    AoS 2 - Fyreslayers Discussion

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    2 hours ago, Hannibal said:

    I have to ask it a second time, please respond:

     

    Warscroll builder lists Grimwrath Berzerkers as Leaders, while all my printed books as well as the FAQ list them as being NON LEADER. What is right here?

     

    Thanks in advance.

     

    HTG

    Unless it’s been changed in broken realms, they do not take a leader slot. Although warscroll builder does sometimes have mistakes (its great, but it’s not perfect) it does seem to work ok in this case as if you add a grimwrath the number of leaders in the totals doesn’t increase

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