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1 hour ago, Mincemeat said:
Finally the justification I needed to own 4 Ironblasters 😁
I think with longstrider big name a tyrant+Ironblasters could be an amazing monster hunting clique. Tyrants fast enough to keep up and 2+ hitting hailshotte sounds like it could be as good as cannonball.
Yeah I'm thinking about something like:
UnderGuts:
Tyrant
-Longstrider (Movement 8 )
-Artifact -Trophey Wrack (Units wholly in 12 inches targeting Hero/Monster +1 Hit)4 Ironguts
Cannon
Cannon
Tyrant Gut Guard BattalionButcher
-Blubbergrub Stench, Cast on a 5+, Rhinoxes are monsters for charges while in 18 of caster.
-General
-Massive ScarsButcher
-RibCracker cast on a 7+, Pick an enemy unit in 18 and visible, subtract 1 from save rolls
-Artifact - Gnoblar Blast Keg10 Leadbelchers
4 Leadbelchers
60 Gnoblars
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6 hours ago, HollowHills said:
Do you guys think a tyrant is even necessary? I mean I don't think he's bad, but given ogres will have bravery 8 or higher in combat and are 4 wound models I'm not sure how usefuk his command ability is. I wonder if you're better off banking the cp and saving it for inspiring presence. Otherwise the tyrant doesn't offer much utility.
I like with the tyrant the way to buff cannons. If you're going to run Ironblasters, having the tyrant only artifact for the +1 to hit vs monsters/heros in 12, and the shoot twice ability in 12 makes him a decent 'cannon bodyguard'.-
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I’ve been tweaking my Desolator list and loving how it’s playing, just wanted to share.
GriffCharger Arcanum
General-StaunchD-IgnaxScales-Azurehalo
AzyrosCastellent
Ordinator
3x5 liberators
3 ballistas
6 desolators
1x3 rapid fire rangers
1 aerherwings
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On 9/20/2019 at 9:08 PM, kore5022 said:
Has anyone had any luck running gotrek with stormcast or is the model count simply too low?
I got one ill be running at an event in two weeks, that I'm quite excited for haha.
Anvils:Incantor - Lighting Blast - General
Relictor - Translocation3x5 Libs
Gotrek
1x3 Rapid Fire Raptors
1x9 Long Shot Raptors
4x3 BirdsDias Arcanum
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3 minutes ago, Lior'Lec said:
@GlanceOnASix, they’re assuming both actions are being used to attack. With onslaught it grants +1 attack for the entire activation so if he has two actions to attack as opposed to having to move first it drastically improves his damage output.
It dawned upon me like 30 seconds ago.. 2 activations dummy!
thanks!
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Hey guys, guess im confused, looking at my longstrike card I see 1 attack. So when I'd do Onslaught, I'd go up to 2? I dont know how folks are getting 4 shots out of it. Was hoping to understand.
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10 minutes ago, Luke.w said:
How about this for a reimagined anvils list:
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Its got a lot of the core stuff, and more mobility with the Palladors/Prime, without some of the punchy power of the evocators. It seems pretty cool to me. And Im sure with practice it could do quite well.
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3 hours ago, Sagittarii Orientalis said:
Your tournament record is very impressive.
Do you mind if I ask the list you took, and whether or not the 2019 Handbook was used?
I personally find three ballistas underwhelming for inflicting truly devastating damage, even with support from Lord-Ordinator.
Hence the inclusion of fourth ballista in my list.
Come to think of it, if I wanted to take shooting units with reliable yet devastating damage output Anvils raptors might be a better option.
But as of now I plan to make quad-ballistas work due to lower points per wound, i.e. better durability.
Yup it was the Midwest Meltdown a month or so back, so we used 2019.
And I used 4 in my list (And with a knight Azyros to push those averages up even higher).
My favorite thing about the Anvil Raptors is the birds, and how much they can do to delay your opponent. The shooting is just a wonderful side effect haha.
But I like Astral Templars, and the mix of Lisas + Desolators has been a lot of fun, so thats why I've been taking it to events.
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6 hours ago, Sagittarii Orientalis said:
I would like to ask opinion on using maximum number of ballistas at 2,000 points game.
I heard about lists using Astral Templars rules to maximise damage output against monsters, but I chose to run other stormhost since I do not always encounter monsters often.
Below is the draft I have written so far.
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The biggest issue I find with running lots of listas (which I've been doing quite well with recently, got 8th at a 120 person tourny!) was the large footprint of reletivly immobile listas, and not not having good bodies for taking objectives.
I'm playing my test games going down to 3 from 4 as 'enough shooting' so I can fit in more boys/tools to reach across the table/take objectives. When I play the anvilhammer snipers, I have no issues killing characters, but the ballistas with their hitting on 5's, just dont cut the mustard. So I've been looking at answers like the Comet (same cost as 1 lista) to be a tool to help cut down those 5 wounder heros so the listas can shoot things they are more effective at.
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19 hours ago, xking said:
Why did you like stormcast ?
I came from playing KO, and what I liked the most was playing in every phase.
I wanted some magic, some fighting, some cav, some monsters, check, check, check, check.
What I like is now that I have a few thousand points of SC's painted, I paint 1-2 boxes, shuffle the boys in purple around, and I have a totally different 'style' of army than before. I wanna shoot cast, shuffle things into my 'core' of stuff, thundercats, the same.When I play armies like KO, or others, you end up with some awesome stuff you can do, and there is something you can do better than anyone else. But its never been as enjoyable as being able to have some 'army list whimsy' and totally switch archetypes as easy as its been since I got into SCE.
I also really enjoy painting the models, in particular the big monster-y ones. There is always a deceptive amount of detail, and I think bits swapping and head swapping makes easy conversions that look so natural its hard to tell you even did anything. But makes it personal, and that's enough for me
Oh and Hamilcar... hes the best
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10 hours ago, PJetski said:
Great list. Are you expecting a monster meta?
Yup at Midwest this year is in the realm of ghir and everyone brings a monster
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I'm off to Midwest Meltdown in the morning, and rocking 6 dracoths, Im looking forward to seeing how this list is gonna fare after doing quite well in my practice games.
Astral Templars
Castellant - General
Veritant - Bless Weapons
Ordinator
Azyros - Godbeast Plate
Incantor - Halo Spell
3x5 Libs
4xListas
1x6 Desolators
Dias Arcanum-
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8 hours ago, CommissarRotke said:
Pics please 👀 I have not attached her shield yet so I'm willing to try some extra conversion
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17 hours ago, CommissarRotke said:
The rules she comes with are "officially" just a Prime, but you're exactly right and the cape she gets means it's a no-brainer proxy. Questor seems like more of a narrative pick than matched though.
I made mine into a Lord Veritant
Shes a cool model to play with.
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20 hours ago, Turragor said:
I made another list rundown and I kinda like the idea behind it. Critique it so I know what to change before my next tournament: https://thehonestwargamer.com/aos-list-rundowns/choose-your-own-stormhost-adventure-desolators-edition/
The list is:
Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals
- Stormhost: Astral Templars or Celestial Vindicators or Anvils of the Heldenhammer
Leaders
Drakesworn Templar (460)
- General
- Storm Lance
- Trait: Dauntless Hunters
- Artefact: Godbeast Plate
- Mount Trait: Lithe-limbedLord-Castellant (120)
Skink Starpriest (80) OR Excelsior Warpriest (80)
- Allies
Battleline
5 x Liberators (100)
- Warhammer & Shield
- 1x Grandhammers5 x Liberators (100)
- Warhammer & Shield
- 1x Grandhammers5 x Liberators (100)
- Warhammer & Shield
- 1x GrandhammersUnits
6 x Desolators (600)
6 x Vanguard-Raptors with Longstrike Crossbows (340)
3 x Aetherwings (50)
3 x Aetherwings (50)Total: 2000 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 0
Allies: 80 / 400
Wounds: 109 (OR 110)
I'm playing aorund with 6 Desolators as well but do very much miss having Aetheriwngs. My thoughts, drop the longstrike bows and take 2 units of the rapid fire ones, you can get a bigger spread and more bird coverage, plus point for point the machine gun ones do a lot of work for us.
I'm not a huge fan of the Drakesworn personally, I'd rather have more heros like a Castellent and Azyros which make the desolator ball just as good as the arrow shot but have more coverage.-
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10 minutes ago, PrimeElectrid said:
Next vs debate: Translocation - Relictor or Veritant?
veritant: better stats, additional dispel, pet gryph hound (synergies with shooting, zoning, objective sneaking)
relictor: cheaper, heal prayer, debuff prayer
I can only say, I've used both in my desolator build list that I'm playing, and really like the Veritant. The extra dispel is super useful, and I always find somthing good to do with an extra hound.
And everytime shes super punchy, I toss the veritant into small units and it gets work done. (I do want to say I use bless weapons currently, but it feels so good on my 6 pack of desolators I don't think I can get enough use outta translaction to trade it) -
Played in a 3 round event last weekend, rocking 6 Desolators and I'm in love.
Astral templar style, with ballistas, they were doing awesome work for me, expecially when I got the lantern +1 save buff on them. The shooting is solid, and the new command abilities were exactly what I needed, getting them rerolls whenever I needed it.
They are on the paint table, and I'm super excited to take them to the Midwest Meltdown end of the month.-
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I am absolutely loving the posts about Desolators I've been seeing. I've been playing with Astral Templars and Listas, but kept finding thundercats and other units not durible enough to stick around for a while.
Ill be trying this over the next week or so:
Hamilcar (Castallent)
Ordinator
Azyros
2xIncantor (Blades/Halo)
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Or just in the spirit of theory hammer, you take the libs, change them to squads of Xbow Judicators with the lightning cannon srg which average 5.3 dmg + 2 mortal wounds per squad, and then your battle line turn 1 drops, clears chaff, gav goes in, they then backup to hold objectives.
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According to my wardolly math, assuming 6 with just all the rapid fire bow, thats 13.5 dmg before saves. So lets say against skaven or skelies or somthing, you're looking at taking a 1/3rd off that so 8ish. 6 dudes are needed to clean up that line, if you only removed 4 models I dont think you'd be able to sneak all that much in with the Gav charge.
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2 hours ago, Requizen said:
I had a thought about Gavriel. I have no idea how this would perform, but here's a thought:
Hammers of Sigmar
Gavriel Sureheart
Lord-Castellant (artifact)
Knight-Vexillor
Lord-Arcanum (General)Sequitors x20
Liberators x5
Liberators x5Evocators x10
Vanguard-Raptors with Hurricanes x3
Vanguard-Raptors with Hurricanes x3
Aetherwings x3
Aetherwings x3
Aetherwings x3Soulsnare Shackles
1950/2000
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Looking at the list, my first though would be, dropping 1 of the Aetherwings would let you make both 5 man libs Sequitors, which makes your back field objective holders that much better. And you'd still be able to be 6 units in the sky (as you'd go to 12 drop from 13).
Or if not that, putting the two vanguard squads together in one unit would keep the number of drops, but you'd be able to drop.Gav/Evocators/Banner/6 man Raptor/Bird/Bird (or another bird if you kept the banner on the ground)
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11 minutes ago, Worm said:
Can i play with one model less so with 14 and not with 15?
So ti would be possible that i put 14 instead of 15 models to Frigate + Chemist.
Yes, there was a guy a few pages back who did quite well at a tourny with a Frigate with 14 thunderers + 1 Kemist being his backfield drop/shoot unit.
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13 hours ago, Bimli said:
I think you mean vorstag not lofnrir. Grayfryed would be great to explore also getting 3+ items is dope but you can make a bunch of your heroes attack at the sameish time.
Absolutely, I get the lodge names all mixed up. The turn 1 movement means you dont necessarily have to pop your movement rune top of 1 to get places, and the run + charge aura is massive. I liked the idea of all the heros piling in together, but it dosent seem worth sacrificing being midfield top of 1.
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Just finished a 5 round 2 dayer out in milwaukee (Brew City Brawl) as the only KO player, went 2-3 but 2 of the losses were skin of the teeth.
Urbaz Brokk/2 Kemist (Ignax/+4movement cloak)/Invocator 40/10/10 Arknaughts (all skyhooks) 9 riggers (3drillcannons) 5 evocators.
Round 1 vs Anvilstrike Stormcast, I felt I played rather well for the first half the game, dispite losing balloons top of one to his shooting, I had the army tabled by turn 4, but mistakenly walked my 10 mans outside of 6 of 2 of my own objectives and long liberator/skink charges were able to sneak and burn 2 of them losing me the game (those were all that was left after my shooting phase. Had I kept them back woulda been a win.
Round 2 vs a swarm of Nighthaut (Ugh immune to rend makes my hooks/saws sad), 2 units of 20 blade ghosts, 40 chainwraps, and 30 scythes ghosts made top of turn 1 charges killing 1/3-1/2 of my army. Over the next few turns I took off over half his list, (evocator unit doing most the work) but I coulden't come back on objectives.
Round 3 vs a mix of stormcasts with Palidors and Fulimantors, was a quick game, a few vollys of skyhooks cleared everying in 28 and Brokk and his balloon possie cleaned his way through 3 units of Judicators to take the backfield objectives and win.
Round 4 vs -1 to hit in shooting DoK with Morathi a cauldron and 60 of her witch friends (on places of arcane power!) my opponent made some mistakes, and I got a great double turn getting riggers into morathi in elf form, was able to hold objectives with my heroes and table the daughters.
Round 5 ANOTHER -1 to hit in shooting DoK with Morathi, this was against the formation that allows crazy teleportation every turn, with 4 units of Kinari and 2 Warlocks. I cleaned up almost everything in his list over 5 rounds except morathi, and had I made one more 4+ save on a dwarf in his final shooting phase I would have kept my 40 man horde 'alive' for points and won with points remaining.
Overall felt even chaffing with my 10 mans unbelievably punished by how many armies can just reach you top of turn 1. No answers to Morathi besides frankly my opponent misplaying, and consistently hard to take objectives on the opposite side of the table, because if I lose Brokk or the Balloons, it takes our army twice as long to get anywhere. The Stormcast allies were rockstars in every game, I don't think I would have done half as well without the evocators punches, the invocators auto dispel/suicide jars, and needing wizards for objectives in these missions.-
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AoS 2 - Kharadron Overlords Discussion
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Best unit in the book. The objective stealing threat of it, and dragging my squads of riggers around for a value in points cost has been terrific.
I typically take the Cannon, as its just nice and reliable. I also like the d6 mortal wound charge to pop off a wounded hero/unit (That followed with the d3 mortal bombs has killed a lot of exposed 5 wound heroes).