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39 minutes ago, The Lost Sigmarite said:

Aetar are the big sentient eagles right ?

Indeed. They’re related to celestial eagles but turned from Sigmar and settled in the highest peaks of Ghur.

They wear basic steel armor and warding jewelry plus gild their talons making them terrifying foes.

Fans even did a Soulbound profile for them:

“ In appearance they resemble Aetherwings and Star-eagles but on a vast scale, growing to be twice the size of a Flamespyre Phoenix. Females have larger and more powerful claws and beaks than the males.

The Aetar are one of many native peoples of the vast Gorwood region who refuse to accept Sigmar's rule, and were not particularly accepting of his return.

When Ikrit finally laid siege to Seven Words, the Aetar came to aid the free city. Though they sought vengeance against the Skaven, rather than seeking to save the city itself.

The Aetar have developed a warrior culture with a militant aristocracy. These warriors are known as Eagle Knights and are organized into phalanxes. They wear jewellery and armour, covering the neck and breast in steel and topaz, whilst their rulers bear golden circlets atop their heads. A single Eagle Knight can contend with and even defeat a Prosecutor retinue and a Knight-Azyros.

They despise the minions of Chaos, just like many others races of the Mortal Realms.

Males can demonstrate their prowess and vitality to both rivals and potential mates by making displays high in the sky and at high speed - normally only hatchlings being forced to stay on solid ground.”

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3 hours ago, TheDayman said:

From looking at it it just seemed like there was the two teams so I'm assuming death/destruction can declare for whoever they want to!

Honestly that’d be a good compromise especially since AoS4 will be Chaos on the rise which means Death & Destruction will be back on the sidelines picking their opportunities.
 

Same as when Death was on the rise in AoS2 so Destruction and even some Chaos elements were backing Order to survive.

 

And AoS3 saw Chaos & Death fall to a lot of infighting which can be partly chalked up to Kragnos’ influence since the novel confirmed he causes fissures in people too.(so it was rather fitting he caused Archaon to lose his sh$t and start yelling about the Dark Gods that lost him most of the 8th circle of Varanguard to Belakor and stirred that civil war up)

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7 minutes ago, Luperci said:

give us a mercenaries book with stuff like this please GW

Haha, AoS successor to Dogs of War & where the Beasts of Chaos ended up.

 

Beasts of War. 😄

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1 minute ago, mawhis117 said:

I was just comparing the map of the Dawnbringer Crusade to a wider map of Ghyran, and they sure are getting close to the home of the Fimir! Possible future faction?

If they don’t go as an ally in a Kruleboyz battletome(very similar themes there & both Destruction) I hope they can do a Scions of the Realms faction that’s a big mishmash of all the exotic beastial forces out there like Silent People & Aetar banning together 

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11 minutes ago, mawhis117 said:

My understanding from a Whitefang post back at the beginning of February was that it was Garviel Sureheart that was going to die

Which sucks as I love him and his model but wouldn’t be the first time a Stormcast went down against a great evil(May your trapped soul somehow find rest, Thostos Bladestorm 🫡)

As long as he gives good account of himself and makes Chaos pay for his days as “grub” I’ll be happy(at least Tornus is being spared and even got to shine in the books)

If he goes then hopefully the next tome marks how all the tens of thousands of slaves he freed from chaos strongholds make him a glorious statue in thanks to go alongside those of Jactos, Thostos, Grymn and the various ones Tornus & the Redeemed built at the battlefield the Sigmarite Brotherhood were lost at after the Redeemed destroyed the daemon fortresses there.

Vandus though is likely to become a Thunderstrike or possibly a Ruination character with that “lightning man” apparition that keeps coming towards him being his future self.

1 hour ago, Gutsu17 said:

The question, is how usable will they be? Wouldnew stormvermin fit in 25s? Wll new stuff rank up, and will there be a suitble profiles to use older stats for

Profiles is the biggy. $200-$250 for just a some core(few by Skaven standards who’ll probably need 2 to 3 boxes) will make any Skaven fan scurry away if the majority of the force is more wacky warmachines & behemoths that don’t fit.

33 minutes ago, Ejecutor said:

For those of you waiting for the River Aelves (Book 5 Spoilers):

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Haha, gonna be putting that through Google translate late.  

Happy things like Sap Volcanoes is bizarre in most languages though.

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5 minutes ago, PJetski said:

They would probably be more willing to do this with Stormcast than with Space Marines.

If we know these units are all eventually going to get retired or replaced with Thunderstrike armour, why not just rip the bandaid off now?

Space out releases. With a new edition every 3 years and Stormcast Eternals the face of everyone of those they’re gonna need an easy design force to balance out all the crazy new stuff.

Having Thunderstrike refreshes stretched out for like 4 editions gives the designers a lot of breathing room as well as collectors(like myself) who want a healthy mix of both styles.

6 minutes ago, Ejecutor said:

I doubt even 75% of those putting the codes really played a game.

Ah, so Skaven winning by sneaky cheating instead of honorable battle.

Full flavor either way then. 😄

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I mean, who thought the tyranids could beat the marines?

online popularity doesn’t translate to tourney numbers by a long shot. Heck, 2020 tourney statistics in Northern Europe easily had SCE outnumber Skaven as 160 vs 30 on average.

And if Skaven do prevail it’s not like they haven’t earned it having some of the oldest models right now.

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13 minutes ago, Vaellas said:

Okay, sudden thought with wondering what will be coming for 4th and Adepticon... remember with Leviathan people did the battles and submitted the result of Space marines vs Nids to see who would take over the planet and see what reveals are next? What if we get the same for Stormcast and Skaven with deciding whether the city the Stormcast are defending will survive or fall to the Skaven plus a pick of who gets the rest of their range revealed next?
What if the refresh of Warrior chamber is in the box so it is easy for new players and Ruination comes later as the next more specialised bunch of units?

It could even be that whether they defend the city or fail that it is the Ruination chamber that comes as reinforcements

 

Would love to see some Seeds of Hope global campaign antics again. That was such a fun time to see the three cities fought over and swing with player feedback  & GW dropping GA buffs for each alliance on Facebook every few months until the conclusion.

Cherry on top if it’s a fight over the new Ghyran settlement as a continuation of the Seeds of Hope cities.

 

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Haha, Ruination Chamber thread but it’s 99% Thunderstrike talk of other chambers. 😄

But yeah I agree they’ll probably serve as small elites. On Vandus I don’t think he’ll show up yet, with Ascended Khul on the horizon that just feels too much of a narrative opportunity to release them together to echo AoS1’s beginnings.

I imagine the box force split between a new Castellant(with the giant teleport key the new theme), Knight commander, Liberators, Judicators and maybe a new angel hero like the Venator for the shining noble side.

and then the dour Ruination side being a new Lord-Relictor & possibly a Thunderous One hero with lightning crackling through the armor containing their form who warden a heavy infantry unit of golem-like troops alongside bound Lightning Gheists*. These being the set’s version of Retributors & Prosecutors with the actual Thunderstrike ones farther out as separate releases.
 

*these things being really what upset the populace with the obvious NightHaunt mirror but Sigmar needs numbers to hold Order’s tenuous gains

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Haha, happy how fast that article answered our terrain questions.  

Very happy it’s other older Gnarlwoods Warcry terrain too. I need to keep building up my Nightmare Quest box.

Busy week tho. Since Spearhead is set to replace older collection kits I might quickly grab the OG Stormcast starter before it gets replaced.

Otherwise yeah, need those 2 AoS books, the Saviors of Cinderfall and either the SCE or CoS box.

Lastly, very nice Loremasters is going over Shadespire city again. We need a narrative going back there. The soul of a city ripped out and flung into the void full of undead, ancient soul-housing empire secrets, magic glass and anti-magic nullstone deposits it collects while floating in the void is ripe for more stories and campaign sets. 🏙️ 👻 

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Would be such a missed opportunity to not have Hamilcar vs Ikrit after multiple starter sets of Stormcast vs Skaven. ⚡️ 💥 🐀 

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7 hours ago, Asbestress said:

It's been gone at least half a year.

Last time I remember seeing it was around Spring last year before the Vanguard came out as "temporarily out of stock".

Yeah sometimes their models just have production issues like a month after the 2023 kharadron tome released the Endrinmaster in Endrinharness went poof entirely from their store for half a year making people wonder if it was getting bundled in a new set or gone altogether.

But then just as suddenly as it went it returned to the site and everything was normal.

So probably a similar situation.

(if not just website error. The new one doesn’t fully categorize everything. Like you can find the Godsbane novel by searching directly for it but it’s not listed among the novel section)

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18 minutes ago, Ejecutor said:

Also, I wouldn't say the fish is a Dappled Efreet., they are just Gargolians. They could have a similar shape, but they are their own kind.

Possible but I think that’s just a handy umbrella term for having them run around say a Hysh regiment out of Settlers Gain since Efreet wouldn’t be there but you might want them for a regiment working with the River Temples. 🐟 

Same as-

25 minutes ago, Ejecutor said:

The articles also mentioned that Vedra's reform wouldn't work in all the realms due to their world-building differences, but the high Azyritan militaries liked it so much that they implemented it across the realms. So that would make all the releases fit every single realm.

Is an umbrella excuse so you can run cavalry and shieldwalls in Ghyran whose thick jungles are notorious for stopping that kind of warfare.

Which would make a fitting need to release new Druids, monster cavalry and wildkin that can fight alongside the Wildercorps through the dense foliages around the Ghyran settlements and so on for the mercurial moving battlefields of Chamon needing new troops and so on.

Whatever the case at least we know it’ll keep being cool stuff as always for the Mortal Realms releases. 👍 

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Indeed. Also for more evidence the Aqshy heraldry is a manticore & Gargoylian which heavily echoes Tahlia & the Command Corps-

 

and one of the pet mascots on the Fusiliers is an Dappled Efreet. A common vermin in Aqshy, walking fish evolved to escape the acidic seas.

 

On Realms, I can see them going 2 by 2 just so we don’t wait 7 editions for the full set.

Already noted Aqshy & Shyish which fits because Aqshy has a lot of ethereal threats, Death realmgates and even got hit by the first major undead menace of the Wraith Fleet.

so Ghur & Ghyran naturally, Azyr & Chamon for higher tier eccentric tech covered in orreries like the Hurricnum wizard wagon and then Ulgu & Hysh troops sharing moons, mysticism and surprisingly even blindfold warriors as there’s human Tyrion worshippers that are blind warrior monks while Ulgu’s Misthavn has sharpshooters that can fire accurately in pitch darkness but need eye-coverings anywhere with sunlight that will harm their eyes.

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49 minutes ago, Ejecutor said:

Why do current troops double for Aqshy and Shyish? Arent they from every realm?

Technically yes but aesthetics-wise they’re heavily implied to be Aqshy troops(thus why they’re shown off with Hammerhal Aqshy’s colors & leaders, plus little things like the value in the leaves on their equipment since greenery in Aqshy is rare) with some Warcom articles even calling them an Aqshy force.

With some obvious focuses on death like the skulls, ghost piper, talking mummy head and skull face-plates on both cavaliers & fusiliers.

(Honestly the Pontifex kinda sums it up in one model with Fire & death  )

Back in 2017 at warhammer World interviews they mentioned a focus they wanted for new humans was basing them on each Realm so I suspect releases down the line changing up that aesthetics a bit to represent other Realms and ideas.

Similar to Soulblight who right now have everything from medieval gothic, vampire samurai monks, Eurasian werewolves & skeleton warriors and now an high fantasy Egyptian leader on Ouroborus snake god. 
 

Cities of Sigmar is set-up to just as robust a mixing pot of Realms & culture flavors. 

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6 minutes ago, Ejecutor said:

CoS then? or SIlvaneth?

If they’re pushing away Kurnothi guesses then likely Freeguild of the two.

Could be how we get “greatswords” & monster cavalry back with the Ghyra side having monster mounts(giant beetle cavalry?) and wildkin with beast strength smashing enemies with massive clubs.(could double as a Ghur force just like the current troops double for both Aqshy & Shyish)

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46 minutes ago, EntMan said:

It's definitely from a Kin of the Stag warband.

Who in my mind at least could have a similar vibe to Darkoath. Why should Chaos get all the (re)wild(ed) humans?

I’ve been thinking with that little story note we could see blessed/mutated human Ghyranites that Order-mirror Belakor’s warband since that’s fallen Freeguild anyway.

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4 minutes ago, CommissarRotke said:

? warcom explicitly says "could be a Kurnothi"

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/02/27/the-rumour-engine-27th-february-2024/

Haha, read below the image.  

“Let’s be honest though, it’s none of those.”

I’m going with the Darkoath guesses on this one. Especially if they’re intended tribes to harass both the Ghyran & Aqshy crusades then stuff from both realms that give them a fiery plains Raider look while also foresty tribal stuff would be key.

Though I wonder if it could further afield to new Freeguild units from Hammerhal Ghyra? Certain “wildkin” and a commander we know could be decorating their own horns.

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3 minutes ago, CommissarRotke said:

combined forces of elves, dwarves and men will always hit better than elves and dwarves hating each other... truly a spectacle to see dwarven blacksmithing and gunpowder alongside elvish blacksmithing and magic

I ran out of reacts so quoting to say hear hear! 🍻 

Hopefully by the end of the Cities of Sigmar getting a full revamp down the editions we’ll have stalwart human soldiers raising shields alongside enchanted aelven spears & mighty duardin siege hammers pounding down the gates of chaos so the city-Ogors can tear into them(plus whatever race or even buffed up Gargoylians GW wants to add to their roster).

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3 minutes ago, Grungnisson said:

But then they'd also have to rename the Bugman's Bar at Warhammer World.

Jakkob Bugmansson XI’s time has come! 🍻 ✈️ 

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Just now, BarakUrbaz said:

That's just a recolored art of the Dragon Slayer from the Warhammer Fantasy Dwarfs army book. 

Oh, then I’ll stick by the Death pack nod at least. 😅

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10 minutes ago, The Lost Sigmarite said:

I remember this lazy attempt at Grombrindal in AoS... thank God the game has moved away from recycling WFB minis as characters like that.

Tbf, it wasn’t lazy but just short notice. At the time the WD had become a sales pamphlet and only saw reforms after Rountree pushed for specialist games and a revived White Dwarf again.

Unfortunately that anniversary & celebration for the revivals was only 6 months away so they had to use a model on hand.

For what it’s worth his artwork looks good, especially on the AoS Champions card.(which nice touch it was part of the Death faction packs, nod to him being a spirit.)

 

And worked narratively as he became a slayer for failing the World-that-Was but has changed back as, unlike Gotrek fully, has come to accept the Mortal Realms as a reforged spirit of the duardin people.

I think this meme hits his tone properly, especially for the AoS mindset:

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5 minutes ago, Twisted Firaun said:

Does anyone know what kind of daemon that icon is supposed to represent? It looks slaaneshi to me but I could be wrong.

Since that’s the Realm of Metal that Tzeentch covets it could be a Tzaangor birdmen as seen from above. 🐦 😄

 

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20 minutes ago, Danaork said:

where did this come ?

Hammerhal Herald back when they archived all the posters. Luckily they still do on the official AoS Facebook even though the Warhammer Community took that section down years ago.

Would be fun to see Elixia again, especially with the newest NightHaunt sub-faction hailing from there.

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Personally just happy to see anything from the Gallet book pop back up so will be grabbing up these magazines, the pictures totally made me flashback to the Thondia book which had the same way of sketching & marking the flora and fauna.

I’ll take a White Dwarf safari over nothing at all easily.  
 

Hopefully next edition the manufacturer side of things will be more stable so they can pump out the narrative Realms books again.🤞 

C’mon travelers tome to lost Elixia and the wilds of Chamon!