Turgol
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1 minute ago, Rogue Explorator said:
True, but they got the Tzaangor to compensate a bit. Really, as far as mortals go, only Khorne is spoiled for choices, for the other Slaves are still a go to if one wants to go mortal heavy.
I am assuming they will simply compensate through new daemons, which seem to be more numerous than Tzeentch. I'd be happy with just one type of mortals. We do not have many ways to make them cool, except....make them elven!
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1 minute ago, Rogue Explorator said:
Yep, not a single true mortal in sight. And Slaanesh only has one unit and two heroes currently that aren't daemons.
Tzeentch is really low on humanoid mortals as well. I hope that ghey will at least have one aesthetic type of mortals, like acolytes.
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Slaanesh looks awesome. I wish though that KoS would have a version with bull head. It probably will!
FS is kinda dissapointing. The book looks great and the magma golem is the best looking endless spell ever. But why couldnt yhey make it a unit! It s not like we have too many!
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That's wishful thinking. They made it explicit that Warcry is about chaos warbanda fighting at the Allpoints. They could of course change that in the future to add.other warbands. But with all certainty not at launch (nor for a while, I would add).
This is Necromunda. It is an excuse yo have parallel aesthetics from the main game. I am surprised that they limited thar power through the Chaos decision. But I do not think they mean to move closer to representing all factions and GAs.
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All Chaos is a no go for me. But am I the only one to also find that the models look terrible? Perhaps the "darkoath" are salvageable. But the bearded warband, the beasts warband and the full helmet one all look very bad IMO. And this is something I almost never say of GW miniatures.
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1 hour ago, novakai said:
I think people may have overhyped Warcry just a little bit because of those rumor that happen awhile back (it being AoS Killteam with leaders and using Shadespire board) which are now pretty much false.
Just show how much damage false rumours do.
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I find it very unlikely that we will have news at this point of Malerion aelfs. But if true... that would be beyond awesome.
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1 hour ago, Kirjava13 said:
All a rumour is is something we don't know for sure. It doesn't matter if it's true or not.
If people are going to only want true rumours... well, those aren't rumours, those are just facts.
Not again this. If I claimed that new Dispossesed with a Grugni on anvil are.coming in June, would that make it equal to a SadPanda/H&H/LVO, etc piece of information?
Rumours are not all equal. It is only natural to cross check other data, look for info on source, etc.
If Chickout then comes out and says that the apparently new user is actually a dakka user with proven record, that is great. I dont see the problem with looking for that kind of info.
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2 minutes ago, Chikout said:
If I was to guess what warcry is, it would pretty much be description given. We have seen darkoath in the art and Stormcast need their 2019 release so that makes sense. Including Shadespire warbands as easy in would be logical.
It all sounds very plausible. In fact so plausible that it is probably just a guess. Also the lore doesn't match what we know. As things stand chaos control 6 of the all gates and order the other two. It is possible they could update the story but the loss of two all gates by chaos would be a very major event.
Also linking boards with realmgates sounds strange as the all gates are rediculously huge, not something you would fight a skirmish game either side of.
I do expect warcry to be something like this though. Hopefully we will get some actual details at Adepticon.
Well to be perfectly precise gate in the realm lf Beasts IS NOT controlled by Archaon, as they lost controll of the beast over which it stands. Gordrak just choose not to close it.
Shyish gate might be controlled by Nagash after him unleashing his spell. But yeah, in this case, as far as we know, it was still Archaon controlled.
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Sounds too go to be true. But hey, I'll believe it anyways!
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2 minutes ago, JackStreicher said:
I can~t shake the feeling that Dispossessed might become a larger release somwhere i nthe fututre (perhaps even after a BT which might come soon). Since Fyreslayers represent Grinir whereas Dispossessed represent Grungni.
I sure hope so as well.
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Back when the first informed rumours of WHFB being discontinued and a new system being released started to appear, part of the information was about a change in the commercial strategy. The idea was that new releases would last only for a time, you would miss if you did not buy them, forcing you to keep buying as released. A second rumour on the change of commercial strategy rather pointed to newer, small factions being better than the bigger, older ones.
At the dawn of AoS, I think these rumours proved to have some flesh to them. Older factions did get new rules, but were messy and much less adapted to the new dynamic system than say SCE or Bloodbound. But given the lack of success of AoS at launch, GW were forced to adapt. They kept their strategy of constantly releasing new small stuff, but I guess they broke with their more radical idea of not looking back to the older stuff. Even if you discount rethought factions such as BCR or Bonesplitters, the new "master BTs" show commitment to both big and small factions. And they are getting some model support, as shown by Gloomspite.
I do not think either that the smaller factions are there not too be looked at again by GW. Some might get the terrain, update BT, endless spells treatment. But some are clearly meant to be supplemented. When KO third wave was previewed, the message read "this is all, for now". I would guess the same about FS and IJ, even Sylvaneth. The older small factions, like Bonesplitterz, I would not bet getting anything other than spells and terrain.
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3 minutes ago, Charleston said:
How about a little bit of wishlisting on LVO announcements?
I would love to hear what you guys expect to be announced or what you at least would wish to hear of
Good idea.
I expect a teaser of Darkoath, announcement of next update BT (KO, Syl, FS or IJ) and models of next Shadespire bands.
Now if I were to make a wild, non conservayive wish, that would be Malerion tease.
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CGI design can make use of other designs. There is no secret to that. Hand designers also copy or get inspired by existing designs. Here, recycling is just easier and, well, perfect. Of course, except on very specific cases, only parts get reused, which need to be put into a completely different whole than its origin. Depending on how good the designer is, this can lead to mindblowing products or meh products.
Bottomline: recycling capability of CGI technology is not per se good or bad. It is a great tool in the right hands and can lead to lazy designs in bad hands.
Although it ia not part of the mindblowing lot, I would certainly rank the new FEC guy as a success. Here is any part was reused, it does not affect quality.
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GW might have set a goal to have all existing playable factions with an up to date BT by 2020.
Discounting the very discontinued Greenskins, destruction need Gutbusters. Also IJ and Bonesplitters update.
Chaos just needs Slaves to Darkness, which should be out 2019, and Slaanesh, which is 2019 or early 2020.
Problems lies of course with order, where Seraphon, FS, KO and Sylvaneth need an update and Freepeoples, Dispossesed and the Aelves mess need to be reworked.
That's at least six BT updates and four factions that need their new framework launched. With this rythm, I think that 2020 is a good goal to have a complete game.
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LVO seminar to launch Darkoath teaser + next 1 week battletome. Calling that.
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10 minutes ago, Sete said:
Turgol and Horticulous, I feel that you are ignoring half my post.
I took NDA rumours with salt, because well for starters it's rumours, not facts, and I personally didn't believe sylvaneth not getting an update. Like I said in my previous post, the bit I feel you ignored, I'm glad it's allegedly fake.
But still it was rumours on a news and rumours thread, instead of the off topic discussion that happens here most of the time. Ben upon discovering that it was indeed a troll should have blocked him and dropped by with a quick note saying, my dudes it's a troll and fake rumours. Instead NDA was free to post for 2 or 3 days even with a parting message.
I take everything I hear with a critical mind (as call it with suspicion). I have the same amount of reasons to believe either NDA or Ben. I don't know any of them. I give Ben the benefit of doubt because he is protecting his site and community. (I hope)
And this rumour drama keeps things fresh aswell 😂
Again, I'm glad is allegedly fake, because I really want Darkoath around april/may.
Last we heard it was Fyreslayers February and skaven march right?
Fair enough, I am sorry if I took for the wrong sort of answer. I do believe there is lots more reasons to believe Ben, not mainly because of being owner of the site, but because he is reporting on a fact (him investigating) and not on hot air (rumours, when not backed).
Fyreslayer-Skaven-FEC-Darkoath and Slaanesh sounds believable for 2019. I sure hope we get a couple of surprises though.
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2 hours ago, Furuzzolo said:
Yeah, we can hang on the previous rumor that the team behind Gloomspite gitz is working on the Dispossessed battletome. 🍻
This is true; we did have rumours that sounded more based before NDA!
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1 hour ago, Sete said:
But I gotta ask, why is the site owner "investigating" into the rumours?
Not the first time we got fake rumours about anything, certainly not the last, and soon enough he would be proven right or wrong. And we did get around talking about rumours.
I'm with Hollow Hills here.
These days "rumour" sites just repost WHC news and do previews of the stuff they get for signing an NDA.
So yeah sorry if I take rumours and this kind of "investigations" with a pinch of salt.
I'm glad the rumours are allegedly fake, it means Darkoath might come sooner, and I was sure sylvaneth will get a ranged unit and an updated tome this year.
But yeah it's Ben site and he can do whatever, even if I don't agree with how things are run around here.
This is same absurd response we were getting when we called the whole thing fishy and wrong. People are so desperate about rumours that they do not want to be told they are false. I simple cannot follow that logic. To me, the first thing you should check about a rumour is whether it is believable.
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9 minutes ago, Kirjava13 said:
Oh my lord, this thread beggars belief. You talk about not-rumours: "Waah! 😭 Talk about rumours!" You talk about rumours: "Waah! 😭 This internet hearsay might not be 100% accurate!" Who gives a gobbo's behind?!? It's fun and interesting and keeps us talking, it matters not one fething jot whether the rumours are accurate or not because we're talking about plastic toys. Honestly.
The "all rumours are equally believable or unbelievable because they are rumours" is nonsense. For those who want rumours just to tall about something, credibility might be irrelevant. But if it about anticipating what will actually come, judging both inner credibility and source accuracy is being minimally rational.
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2 minutes ago, Caladancid said:
Yes rumors are rumors. And like I said, I am glad people come to share. LLV got things wrong and he got things right which is frankly what I would expect with the telephone game of rumors.
What he didn't do was check during the span of hours with a source and ping back in with updates. He also didn't claim to have had inside info on release for 8 months prior, which is perplexing. Maybe it is just because if someone told me about deepkin, then told me about 2d edition, and both were right...I would have decided they were the real deal. Even more so when they were right about new Stormcast, Nighthaunts, Beasts of Chaos, and Wrath & Rapture all in sequence.
@Ndabreaker so I am not being passive aggressive here I think I've made my point. I will eat the massivest amount of crow for sure when/if you are proven correct and I will do it right here in this thread haha.
There is too much logic here for some people. I dont get the "dont question whatever comes as rumour" logic that some peoplw have. Maybe it is just that we are desperate for whatever comes.
Not trusting rumours from unproved sources is not being rude. Just minimally rationale. It allows discussions to develop without taking every rumour for equally believable, because they are not.
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54 minutes ago, Ndabreaker said:
This is true . I dont know my source personally so i have some concern aswell. I will be completly honest about how this came about.
I comment alot on warhammer community social media and had a private message from someone saying they had info. I was abit dubious at first. However he got the dates of some of last years releases right including this years gloomspite. I have only come here to share because of how much he got right.
So he could be just extremly lucky with guessing or he knows inside info.
This is as fishy as it gets. Shows how bad we are on the rumours department that with such an implausible siurce everyone gets excited!
Most NDA rumours sound like easy guesses. Seraphon is where he is playing his cards. If he gets that right, then the implausible source becomes an actual source.
Speaking of which where are the real rumourmongers we had here. Moonstone and the other guy?
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17 hours ago, Yoshiya said:
I was mostly focusing on which battletomes expand on which realms indeed. I was going to included Seraphon and Pestilens but I can't remember their books really dealing with the lore of specific realms and more just general stuff.
I guess you could agree that Pestilens helps to expand on the realm of Chaos itself and how it is interacts with other realms, in which case I'd also like to add Everchosen.
I haven't read much black library stuff or the realmwars so I didn't include them but from what I can gather Ashqy, Shyish and Ghyran seem to show up a lot with Ulgu and Hysh being pretty rare. Please correct me if I'm wrong however.
You just need to look at the core book; Aqshy and Shyish (late but strong comer) are wonderfully developped; Chamon and Ghyran quite a lot, all other realms very much untouched. Even Ghur, which did have some action (but mostly irrelevant) with IJs release and Ulgu with DoK. Ulgu will be relevant when Malekith comes; Hysh is waiting for T&T. Simple as that.
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5 minutes ago, xking said:
Small? I wouldn't call the dispossessed small and they play a major part in the lore as the Builders of the free cities. I'm sure they'll get attention.
That side of the Dispossesed I think is less interesting as their more independent side. But I guess GW does not want to explore much that side, because it is reminiscent of old dwarves.
The Rumour Thread
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Tzaangor is the tzeentchian solution to the mortal question, yes. For Slaanesh, daemons seem to be part of it, but slaanesh aelfs would be the mindblowing solution!