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3 minutes ago, Chikout said:
I don't know. The AoS world doesn't really grasp me. I know there are 8 realms, but it could easly be 4 or 20. What does it matter.
I have heard similar things before and it's why I think the AoS design studio would do well to really explore and define the realms further. The 8 realms should matter a lot more than they currently do. Rather than have an edition focused on a singular realm, it would be cool if an edition spent around 4 months "in" each realm releasing factions, battle tomes, books, scenery and narratives appropriate for each.
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I like the ToW profile. I much prefer USR which can be learned, allowing you to clearly see what a unit does by just having the keyword on its "card".
As for the AoS "books/lore" discussion, I really wish that GW and Black Library would invest more into building out the Mortal Realms. Regardless of subjective opinions, the actual game of AoS is in a solid place and the models/factions are in a very solid place, unfortunately, the weak leak for AoS is its "world-building".
It's not that the lore of the setting is "bad", it just feels a bit scattered and thin. There is so much potential in how the Mortal Realms could be portrayed. As was previously mentioned, The Horus Heresy's setting has been brilliantly explored through novels.
I'm not sure I am entirely sold on how AoS is approaching its Realms exposition. I feel like each of the 8 realms should be characters in themselves and discussed simultaneously. People should be able to relate to them. Have a favourite and be able to "spend time" in them. I'd really like to see a new and updated "Travellers Guide to the Mortal Realms" series on Warcom. More maps! More art! More stories. More written lore explaining cultures, civilizations, nomenclature, and creatures. (I've mentioned before that I would love to see an 8 part "coffee table" style book series detailing each of the respective realms as if from the perspective of a great explorer)
In terms of product, there should be a scenery section for AoS that has 8 different sets allowing you to create battlefields in each of the realms.
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I think the development of both Malerion's Aelves and Grungni's Dispossessed (and the potential reunification of the Khazalid Empire) both depend on what we see happen with the Cities of Sigmar and the realm in which the launch box is located.
Ideally, CoS will receive a sizeable second wave (things currently point towards a Wheel-based religious fanatic-based addition) resulting in the removal of the Dark Elf models from the line and for Malerion to step out from the shadows with a range of emo-Aelves. If the location is Ulgu then this becomes all the more likely and I think it may mean the Dispossessed models sticking with Cities for another edition. (which would be a shame IMO)
If on the other hand, the location is Chamon (which I think I would prefer) then the Dwarves might be up for some long-overdue love. AoS launched with Fyreslayers and Kharadon are cool but both remain relatively small. Aelves on the other hand have received a lot of love with both Lumineth and Indoneth Deepkin. (and the rumoured Kurnothi on the way)
I know that the location of the realms on the Realm map doesn't mean much, due to the ability for transportation through realm gates, but the location of Blight City under Chamon on the map and the concept of the Forge God Grungi's new forge deep within Chamon's mountains being assailed by the Skaven and the reunification of the Dispossessed (with lots of new Dwarven models) would be really cool.
Of course, in an ideal world, we would get both!
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The Skaven are heavily rumoured to be the 4th edition launch protagonists. I suspect (and hope) both Ogors and BoC will get a full range refresh with their 4th edition Battletomes. Kurnothi could be released towards the end of 3rd edition with some free PDF rules and then folded into the 4th edition Sylvaneth Battletome proper as one of the first 4th edition Battletomes released in Q4 of 2024.
I have said before, but I would prefer to see the Daughters of Khaine battle tome expanded into a "Children of Khaine" Battletome with the arrival Malerion, as I would prefer to see larger "umbrella" factions represented in Battletomes rather than lots of smaller ones. (the same as Kurnothi being a part of the Sylvaneth faction rather than as two separate ones)
This would allow for the addition of these new model lines whilst not contributing toward faction bloat. There are already 9 factions represented under the Order Grand Alliance. I'm not sure it is a good thing for the game longer term to keep adding to the number of factions. I would like for there to be a hard cap of 10-order factions in AoS, which means there would still be space for one completely new faction to be explored with their own tome at some point.
As for Chaos, there are currently 7 factions represented across this Grand Alliance. If Skaven and BoC do in fact get range refreshes in 4th, it would bring the entire Grand Alliance up to "AoS standards". (On a side note I think a hard cap of 8 Chaos factions works well, allowing Chorfs to be explored at some point and keeping the thematic chaotic number of 8)
Death is looking very solid in terms of ranges with the upcoming FEC rounding out 4 distinct, well-represented factions. I really don't see the need for further additions to this Alliance in terms of factions.
Destruction is a funny one, I think this Alliance would be best for a brand new unique faction. Although having 10 Order, 8 Chaos, 4 Death and 4 Destruction = 26 factions is a good amount. I don't think there is a need for a million factions spread thin, I would rather more depth be given to existing factions than just lots more factions being added to the game.
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Don't get me wrong. I would love for 3rd edition to close out with a bang! The narrative currently being explored across the Dawnbringers series frequently references the fact that the "Era of the Beast" is reaching an apex. The magical fluxes are surging, building... towards something.
With Dawnbringers IV announced (completing the AoS Roadmap) and all factions receiving their 3rd edition Battletomes. Apart from rumours of a potential 2 further entries in the series, there doesn't seem to be that much in the pipeline for AoS over the next 6 months.
There could be a Kurnothi release that ties in with the success of the Ghyran Dawnbringer crusade?
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Army sets are always "While stocks last", they are splash releases.
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Well, the Ghouly-bois being up for pre-order so quickly is nice to see. I'm not a big fan of the incredibly long lead-up times from preview to pre-order like we have seen in the past with some releases. I hope we see more of this type of time frame in 2024 and beyond.
It does make me wonder what we might see for AoS in the first half of next year though. With all of the factions receiving an update in 3rd and with a new edition on the horizon, perhaps we will just see another 2 Dawnbringer books before the major 4th edition hype-train ramp-up?
I'd be really surprised to see a new faction reveal at the end of an edition cycle.
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10 hours ago, Noserenda said:
nobody likes a gatekeeper dude. Warhammer is a simple enough game that anyone can play it with a reference card but we arent all built the same way and being an ass about it serves noone.
How was I being an ass about it? There are many Warhammer games. Play one that suits your style and ability. The only one being an ass is you.
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4 hours ago, EccentricCircle said:
It's worth pointing out that some folks are much better at internalising rules than others. When we see thus sort of thing, there can be a trend for players who are good at rules to think "well, I learned it pretty easily, so its easy to learn". That might just mean though, that you are better than average at learning it, so please be sympathetic and have empathy towards those who find this harder.
Conversely, I think it is important that those who find rules difficult to understand or learn appreciate that the system may just not be for them and that there are dozens of much simpler rule sets out there for different systems and it is ok for a game to have slightly more "complex rules" for those who are able to comprehend them. Not every system should be aimed at the lowest denominator. It's okay for different systems to be aimed at different types of people. It would be a shame if TOW suffers the same fate as many other systems, becoming so "streamlined" and "simple" because of the demands of those who are either unable or unwilling to read and internalize a couple of paragraphs of rules.
If I was to join a martial arts gym as a novice, I wouldn't join a black belt class and demand that they treat me with kid gloves. I would look for a class that was appropriate for my level. (White belt)
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I love tables and really wasn't a big fan when the games went to basic 3+ rolls (or whatever) I felt it took so much flavour out of the games. Very happy to see them returning and from what we have seen so far in regard to the rules I am a lot more optimistic than I was previously.
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Old Skeletons for Tomb Kings.... deary me.
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52 minutes ago, Beliman said:
Am I the only one who doesn't care where we go?
I care, but only because I can see the huge potential of exploring the Realms properly, rather than what we currently have. GW really needs to further define and characterize the different realms IMO. I personally would prefer for an Edition cycle to be accompanied by different "Realm Expansions" across the edition's lifespan. (Rather than the narrative books we currently have squashed into the end of an edition)
So you would have the edition launch set in Ulgu for example, with the starter set, a big rule book, and then shortly after a "Ulgu" campaign/lore book. Then 9 subsequent books across the entire 3 years of the edition representing the 8 Realms, 8 Points and The Aetheric Void (Making for a total of 10 books per edition) leading into the next edition.
It would allow for each Realm to be steadily built out across each edition, for all factions to be covered (You could have a "Versus box" accompanying each of the Campaign books)
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Was there not meant to be an Old World Website up today?
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1 hour ago, Neverchosen said:
My cottage trip seems to have saved my bank account as I missed it.
Seems to still be available?
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It's been marked as "Sold Out Online" for some time but that likely just means that the allotment for the web store has sold out, and with AoS V4 coming next year, why do a full print run with current packaging when you can do a new run for 4th Next year. Still available in store and at multiple online retailers though
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Leviathan may have sold out on the web store after several hours but was available in Warhammer stores and LFG's for weeks. There is still a couple of online retailers with it in stock.
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3 hours ago, Bosskelot said:
GW have been massively overproducing these types of boxes recently.
You really shouldn't have any issues getting hold of one, especially as AOS is far from 40K's level of popularity.
Obviously, there is an international customer base for GW products, so if you are based somewhere off GW's beaten track your experience will vary. However, apart from a few select products (Black Library special editions which are targetted by scalpers) stock really has become less of an issue from when they were experiencing multiple different issues (many of which were out of their control)
GW doesn't want (or need) to sell out of product, it's not like a high fashion brand where the value is tied directly to its scarcity. I also think that a lot of forum folk (here and elsewhere) don't really understand the nature of print runs. If GW has a forecasted demand of say 3400 of a particular product, they will do a run of 4000 (Or even 5000). Which will cover the forecasted demand with plenty left over to absorb any additional demand. It might mean that there is a perception that they are "massively overproducing" stuff but in doing so they are able to make each product even cheaper than if they only printed 3000 which sells out almost instantly.
The actual base cost of production for GW products is almost entirely related to "upfront" costs in terms of design, not the actual, plastic, paper and ink you physically get. A product will have a development cost, a minimal run to offset that cost then every additional product sold thereafter is almost entirely profit.
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Why not just order it from a dozen different online retailers that don't have queues, have stock and offer 20% off?
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It feels a bit like the AoS design studio is perhaps taking another crack and trying to emulate some of the success of Marine Chapters in 40k, by expanding and developing the different Fortress Cities (which I am totally here for) 11 distinct thematic cities with different iconography, colour schemes and traits. It also makes sense that this is in fact the first wave for Cities. I would love to see more fantasy humans and perhaps city upgrade sprues similar to what marines get. Let's hope they sell well which will please the bean counters and encourage their further development.
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The Seraphon army set was £130 and with the pricing of Cities at £120 I feel like GW were pushing the price up until they found a point that started to affect sales. The Seraphon set didn't "fly off the shelves" (in fact there is still a few retailers out there with them still in stock) A £120 price point means just under £100 with a 20% discount (which is what most retailers offer) It makes sense to me as there is a big psychological jump when a product breaks the £100 mark.
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There are so many variables when it comes to considering dust. Do you live in a rural or urban environment? On a low or high floor? Will the units be placed in a high-traffic area? (lots of people coming and going) are there smokers in the home and what kind of room will the cabinets be in? Is it carpeted, air-conned, heated, etc?
Actual proper dustproof display cabinets with rubber seals (seen in retail, museums etc) Cost thousands (Think £5000+ for a similar amount of shelving space as the KALLAX) and IMO are complete overkill for Warhammer figures. (If you have a nice Rolex collection or are displaying literal Golden Demon quality figs then they may be worth it) You also generally don't want to have the cabinets in direct sunlight or to be in a room that experiences extreme temperatures.
I generally give the inserts a light dusting once every 6/8 weeks (but could easily leave them much longer) A can of air (Or just use an air compressor) to quickly spray the models and give the shelf itself a quick wipe down. Takes about 2/3 mins per insert. Maybe an hour or two of cleaning every couple of months total.
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The Kallax shelves are sturdy, easy to assemble and offer a lot of flexibility. Not sure about Euros but the Glass shelf inserts are only £22 each. So a row of 4 = £88. I have 3 rows = £264 + £115 for the Shelving Unit itself =£379.
What I like about it was that I originally bought the Shelving Unit, 4 Glass Shelf inserts and some Fabric Storage Drawers (Only £3 each) then bought subsequent Shelving inserts as and when I needed/wanted more room. So I didn't need to pay the full amount up front.
The 4x4 KALLAX Unit is one of the bigger ones as well. You can get a 2x4 Unit KALLAX 2x4 (£65) With x4 Glass Sheld Inserts and 4 Fabric drawers all for a total of £165 (I guess around 200 Euros)
There is also the BLALIDEN Unit BLALIDEN Glass Cabinet for £80, but it removes the flexibility afforded by the KALLAX Units and is nowhere near as sturdy.
I'm an Interior Designer by trade and have done an ungodly amount of research into different furniture options over the years. If anyone knows where I could get a custom-made piece of furniture that offers a similar range of options at a similar quality please let me know. For something custom with a similar amount of shelving space and fitted glass I was quoted a minimum of £2000+
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3 hours ago, Twisted Firaun said:
My wallet’s bout to be hit with textbook fees, but GE has decided to unleash so many goodies these coming weeks…… may God have mercy on us all……
I assume you mean for University/ College? Remember that ALL content in extortionate textbooks is available FOR FREE online (and I don't mean piracy) Check Project Gutenberg, ProjectStax and Library Genesis. Also, if you are interested in any specific papers email the author directly and they will invariably send it to you for free (as the actual authors don't get a cut from academic textbooks)
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100% the best bang for your buck is the KALLAX shelving units from Ikea. They come in a range of different sizes (and colours/finishes)
You can then also buy a KALLAX glass shelf insert with a glass door for each of the shelves in the unit.
IKEA - KALLAX Glass shelf insert and glass door.
I have the (4x4) KALLAX shelving units with Glass inserts and doors with KALLAX DRAWER INSERTS running along the bottom line for additional storage. With some LED light strips they look great. Table Top Tactics uses them (in black) to display their models in their new studio which can be seen in the background of their battle report vids.
Table Top Tactics - Nighthaunt v Indoneth Deepkin Battle report
In terms of easy availability in the UK, value for money, versatility and flexibility they are the best around (by far) unless you are willing to spend a lot of money.
One to avoid is this one from Argos.
It is so cheap looking (and feeling) the glass is as thin as paper.
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The Rumour Thread
in Age of Sigmar Discussions
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I was just thinking in terms of a 3-year edition cycle. Spend the first 6 months of the launch (The second half of 2024) in one realm, cycle through 3 in 2025, 3 in 2026 and spend the first 6 of 2027 in an 8th realm before launching the next edition. It would mean that each realm would have some time in the sun each edition.
This could certainly be another way of approaching it. (Although it would mean 8 years before each of the realms were covered if you only focused on one) Perhaps an annual book combining Season of War/ GHB but with a lore section for each of the 8 realms contained within?