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    AoS 2 - Stormcast Eternals Discussion

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    Can someone explain me the new allegiance, don’t matter how I understand it’s looks op to me. Do I roll a dice for each wound the enemy has? Or each wound my died model had?

    do I roll 16 dice if stardrake dies? Or do I roll 16 dice if one liberator dies who fights against a stardrake? 😅😂

    The Rumour Thread

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    1 minute ago, PJetski said:

    You've totally missed my point. I'm strongly in favour of making the game less lethal in 3rd edition, but in the context of 2nd edition I think 120-140 is a fair price for 3 Annihilators. At that price they would still be a worse choice than Evocators for damage output, but their armor save would give them an interesting niche in the army.

    Above 140 for 3 they would be even less useful than Retributors, which are currently unplayable.

    100% right

    AoS 2 - Stormcast Eternals Discussion

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    Posted · Edited by Erdemo86

    12 minutes ago, PrimeElectrid said:

    >if they were 140pts it would be a scandal for everyone outside stormcast players, i mean people still have PTSD about sequitors even these days.
     

    how on earth do these people cope with Fireslayers, OBR, DOK, LRL who are both tankier and deadlier?

    It’s all stormcast hate man... everyone can but stormcast not, because they are the poster boys.. and Gw hears them..

    even in our community the first reply was, oh golden boys again.. look 2+ save.. how op is that..

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    AoS 2 - Stormcast Eternals Discussion

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    Posted · Edited by Erdemo86

    Now I’m really afraid to see Praetors, hope they are better.. hoped for some more elite warscrolls with higher points like custodes. Not some weaker Evocators.. the whole lore gave me hope, new armors, more elite... 

    now people compare them with brutes and sequitors and paladins that no one plays.. who plays paladins,brutes or sequitors they days?

    i would not be surprised if those vindictors are just libs with range 2... whoever writes stormcast warscrolls, needs to be fired.

    you wanna compare them with other units, try comparing them with Hearthguard berzerkers my friends, because they are tanky.

    140 points, 10 wounds, 4+ ward save, Same Attack profile  as anhillators but they are 5!!! Even if you add the mortal wounds they do the Same damage. And I don’t have considered that’s it’s easy for HB to get a 3+ save + a ranged attack..

    So yeah let’s make them 280 points because they are stormcast... 😇😂

    Like I said if they would be 140/150 points they still are not close to op..

    AoS 2 - Stormcast Eternals Discussion

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    Posted · Edited by Erdemo86

    31 minutes ago, jeanfluflu said:

    True, there's a tendency at play here to analyze things "in the void", without context, synergies and other elements.

    I'll not blame people though as it is a phenomenon that is inherently pushed by the nature of these preview:
    simple focus on lone units, emphasizing the stats and warscroll...etc.

    maybe there's a command ability that will allow these chaps to be great, a spell or a prayer...we don't know.

    So yeah, we end up on that situation.
    Big numbers and warscroll leaving you compare to your own units: "well my elites only has a 4+ save....ect".

    That’s what I mean, you can’t compare with something like for example brutes. Lets say there same as brutes but if you have ironjaws you have what, 3x 20 ardboys + a lot of other things. A wArchanter that gives you +1 damage.. 

    if you have stormcast you allreafy have a low models count so you need more punch for your points.

    AoS 2 - Stormcast Eternals Discussion

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    Posted · Edited by Erdemo86

    Everything over 150/160 would make them not playable.. go and take evos, dracothian guard or evo cats. All just better. No one thinking of capturing objectives, stormcast have already a low model count, so you can’t compare them to other units in other army which have access to a lot of big units. People were complaining about judicators and Evocators back in the time.. now look where we are..

    Even if they would increase the save of other paladins to 3+ they would be better.

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    AoS 2 - Stormcast Eternals Discussion

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    Posted · Edited by Erdemo86

    12 minutes ago, Marcvs said:

    and people are already calling for them to be 300 points, I'll never understand why stormcast ellicit these reactions all the time (it was the same with the stormkeep rules)

    I agree to 100%, stormcast gets always all the hate, even if they are bad. Comparing them to other bad units and saying there better than them so make them more expensive... compare them to lumineth and they are garbage, even at 180 points... if anhilators would be 5 models for something like 220 points, they still wouldn’t be op.

    stormcast are low tier atm, and not a good army. So let don’t compare to their already bad units and compare them to much worse units, that’s the hate stormcast philosophy. 

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    AoS 2 - Stormcast Eternals Discussion

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    Posted · Edited by Erdemo86

    280? 😂 omg, why? Evocators are better than anhilators atm. And evos are even not thaat good.. can someone make the math on evos vs anhilators pls, so people see that they are not that good.. the only thing they are better in is there save but it’s still 9 wounds vs 15.. so not so much tanky.

    Evos do a average of 5 Mortal wounds and are mages.

    Anhilators do an average of 3,5 mortal wounds when they charge.

    Evos have 15 wounds, Anhilators have 9.

    only thing they are better in is there save.also move 4 vs 5.

     

    Anhilators vs Evos Damage Profile. Not considering that reroll wounds with there spell.

     

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    The Rumour Thread

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    I think people are overvalueating anhilators. If they are 200 points, why would you take them over evocators? They only do mortal wounds if you get your charge, if not your points are pretty much wasted. Evocators do there mortal wounds if they attack so much more save output+ they are wizards. Only thing that’s better with anhilators is the save that makes them tankier but it’s still 15 vs 9 wounds.. I still see them at 150 points..

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    The Rumour Thread

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    26 minutes ago, Enoby said:

    I have a feeling they'll cost around 200. Not that this will necessarily be 'good', but I think GW often points based off unit type. So as these are paladins, they'll cost similar to other paladins.

    Them costing 150 would make me even more sad/confused about Slaangors!

    Normal paladins come in units of 5 and have 15 wounds a unit not 9. But we will see.

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    The Rumour Thread

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    Posted · Edited by Erdemo86

    9 minutes ago, Yoid said:

    These Annihilators deal a lot of MW for free, and even without that they got very good combat profiles. Only way of them being balanced would be to cost between 200 and 300 points. We will see.

    They feel like a nail in the coffin of Slaangors. Like, their profiles and rules are basically what Slaangors should have been, minus the high save (compensated with the plus movement).

    I don’t think anyone would play them for 200-300 points. Minimum size is 3 you know that right? So 9 wounds for 200-300 points would be close to not playable I think.. and the mw Output is not bad, but far from a lot. First you have to get that 9 inch charge.

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    AoS 2 - Stormcast Eternals Discussion

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    48 minutes ago, OkayestDM said:

    Agreed. It's worth noting that if the Stormkeep sub-allegiance make it into the new edition, that would be the place to take units of 6. Without the drop-down MWs, you'd want a cushion to make sure those large lads got the full benefit from their charge.

    Hope there will something that increases the charge, not only gavriel..

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    AoS 2 - Stormcast Eternals Discussion

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    Posted · Edited by Erdemo86

    I would say it’s not worth taking more than 3 in one unit because of their ability’s. Think of 3 or 4 units coming from the sky and charging in. Even without any buffs and I’m sure there will be some, the do a lot of damage while being very tanky. 

    4 units from the sky: 4 d3 mortal wounds

    4 units charging in with a charge role of lets say 7(because you have +2 charge from coggs or somewhere) = 14 Mortal wounds

     

    hope they will be not overpriced in points... something like 140/150? I don’t know how much points would fit.

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    The Rumour Thread

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    Posted · Edited by Erdemo86

    Oh ok, there is some hidden change. You can shoot at an enemy unit that’s within 3 inch of a friendly unit without a penalty! So normally there is some kind of penalty? Or do they mean you ignore the look out sir penalty. That would be a buff to shooting...

    The Rumour Thread

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    Posted · Edited by Erdemo86

    6 minutes ago, Pvarron said:

    Oh, boy! The new rules tease is literally nothing! Shooting hasn’t changed at all and the interview also reveals nothing concrete.

    Doesn’t changed at all? Did it changed? I can’t see any changes..

    The Rumour Thread

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    Really don’t understand Gws marketing strategy.. they tease us a new box, new stormcast, new orcs and a new edition 5 days ago and we don’t get any information about it. I’m looking everyday on Community page and there is a new post about 40k only, every day... wtf... we want to see some informations, warscrolls, 3.0 reviews....

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