GhostShark
-
Posts
105 -
Joined
-
Last visited
-
Days Won
2
Content Type
Profiles
Forums
Gallery
Store
Downloads
Blogs
Events
Posts posted by GhostShark
-
-
4 hours ago, Ejecutor said:
Ok, then not the same day, but you cannot delay them that much, even if a possible large player base already have armies.
They're not delaying them that much. They'll all be out in the first year.
Have you ever played another game from launch? Almost no game has every faction available right away. It took new Necromunda a year to do its 6 gangs, and that was just a box each.
You don't want to launch everything at the same time. Its a bad idea for so many reasons.-
3
-
-
7 hours ago, Ejecutor said:
Even with that, wouldn't have been better to release all armies at once? Even if it means delaying the game for a year or a year and a half?
Sales would have been even better, and everyone would have been able to join once the hype was at its peak.They did release all armies at once. Every army had a playable list at launch.
They didn't release miniatures for all armies at once. That would have been impossible. That would have been, by far, the biggest miniature release of all time. During a year where GW is struggling with production capacity, releasing hundreds of models and kits all at once would just be impossible. Even in a good year it would have brought every other product line screeching to a halt. Its ridiculous to think this was even an option.
I think so far their release plan has bene fine. we already have 3 full model lines released, with a 4th coming very soon. Its not very hard at all to get models for most other armies, even without resorting to 3d printing or proxying. I pretty easily put together a full Dark Elf army with a trip to my local shop and a few ebay purchases. My group has full Dwarf, Empire, Lizardmen, Beasts, High Elves and Skaven armies, in addition to people who bought the already available Tomb Kings, Brets and Orcs& Goblins. No one had much trouble getting what the needed, except for the guys trying to do original Chaos Dwarves. And even he's up to 1000 points.-
2
-
-
18 hours ago, Sarouan said:
TOW started with Bretonnians and Tomb Kings, 2 miniature ranges that were abruptly removed from sales when AoS started after the death of Battle while the others kept going for a longer while. So far I saw and heard, TOW's success is mainly because old veterans are coming back / take the opportunity to "complete" their old collection with the miniatures they couldn't have at the time.
Orcs and goblins, they're not really in the same situation. Their old miniatures were still available in AoS and most of the battalion's content are miniatures that can easily be found in any army already.
Plus the core they have are common goblins and orcs, and they're not exactly the most popular to start an effective Orcs and goblins army...I honestly relativise rumors talking about TOW "selling really well". I barely see new players coming to the game, be it on youtube or local club / stores. So far I'm concerned, it's all veterans and people who already have everything to play...or who write "3D printer goes brrrr".
I mean, my entire group is brand new players. And online Im seeing a lot of new players.
-
3
-
-
8 hours ago, Tonhel said:
Just watched the latest youtube video from Square Based / Honest wargamer about the new FAQ and their Rob says that with all the info he has from GW employees and etc.. That TOW have blown away sales expectations. 🙂
I love it! I am still amazed by it, as imo not all those old kits aged well. 😄.
Just nice info to hear 😄
"Aged well" is kind of subjective. For some people those kits are perfect bits of nostalgia. For other people, those kits are the peak of miniature design and sculpting in a style they love.
I personally think that a lot of older kits have a more interesting style than many modern kits, as well as some really lovely and characterful sculpting. And of course, some are just ******. But its really subjective!
I'm really excited for miniatures in absolutely every army coming back. Not ALL of them, but a lot of them!-
2
-
-
Cursing word is disappointing. But it was probably never meant to be that powerful. Still, I'm not sure of its very attractive now.
Murderous is just frustrating. I feel like it really shouldn't have the restrictions, since it feels like we're paying for the ability but never getting to actually use it. -
On 4/3/2024 at 3:13 PM, Jetlife said:
These new list-building rules present some really interesting options. For starters, it looks like the vanguard/spearhead boxes will basically slot right into a regiment for your larger army. This makes it a super easy and efficient way for new players.
I also hope this leads to multiple different spearhead boxes for each army. This would be an awesome way to collect and build an army. Regiment by regiment.
Hopium I know... but what if each battletome release came with a small regiment. They could even sell them with the new book included. New Hero and two new units......
It seems like this hero and two-unit box model is becoming more and more popular. Dawnbringers box had this kind of format as well. It definitely feels more "modular"
Is it more popular? Or do they just like selling us a new hero along with units we already have?
-
1
-
-
On 4/3/2024 at 1:32 PM, pnkdth said:
And not to be that guy, but I'm getting major 40k vibes. This essentially an accelerated version of primaris and turning old models obsolete ever quicker. I can barely spot the differenc so any SCE player could just rebase their models and I'd be non the wiser.
Seriously though, for AoS to move so quickly past established models is strange. They've barely established SCE "firstborn" or chambers properly before bloating their roster even more. Of course, more cool stuff is good but this is the bare minimum since it doesn't innovate their roster as much as it is iterating on existing units. I don't have any skin the game but if I were an SCE player I'd be a bit annoyed. It is like they realised the SCE roster is bloated but rather addressing the issue they created a new improved unit while leaving the rest behind.
They're insisting on keeping the focus on SCE instead of allowing another army to be in the starter box, but they know the SCE line is bloated and they can't keep endlessly filling it with new units. So we get a Stormcast refresh 10-15 years ahead of schedule (compared to Primaris). Thats the problem with insisting on having a poster faction and trying to artificially recreate space Marine popularity. You burn through decades of releases way to quick and end up trying to force your player base to rebuy the same units they just bought a few years ago.
-
1
-
-
Are there any changes for Dark Elves? They said to download the new doc, so I did. I was eager to see if they had changed Murderous. Unfortunately not. I didn't notice anything else, but I'm bad at spotting changes.
Speaking of Murderous, what is the situation where you would want to give up your 2nd hand weapon to use it? -
On 4/2/2024 at 11:52 AM, PJetski said:
What if Faction A sells more than faction B and you want to make more money?
what if faction A only sells more than faction B because you put all your resources into it? A decade solid of promotion, new releases, novels, video games, animation and 4 starter boxes.
I don't think people realize that Space Marines and SCE are popular because GW focused on them to the near exclusion of everything else for years (and for decades in the case of Marines). They could also do this with other factions if they wanted to. Not every faction would gain the same benefit from a because of promotion, but nearly every faction would see real and likely permanent growth. That's how this works. Wouldn't it be nice to have MULTIPLE factions that sell that well? You know, to make more money?-
1
-
-
On 4/2/2024 at 9:10 AM, The Lost Sigmarite said:
Yeah, because more people play SCE than Beasts, Ogres, DE, Spiderfang and Bonesplitterz combined. Simple as.
Yes, because they keep pouring resources into SCE. Pour similar resources into another army and you'll get similar results. Very likely any of those factions would be MUCH more popular and profitable if they'd received nearly a decade of non stop hype, new releases, novels and other media tie ins and had been featured in 4 core boxes.
-
1
-
-
16 hours ago, Ogregut said:
What's everyone working on for TOW at the moment?
Painting Dark Elf spearmen. I promised myself I'd paint another 8 before moving on my Cold Ones.
-
3
-
-
On 3/30/2024 at 7:12 AM, Sception said:
Yeah, warcry's a good game, very fun, but it's appeal isn't the same as what Mordheim offers.
That said, you really don't need GW support for mordheim. Where Warcry is a pick up / bring and battle game, and thus needs some amount of current support to stay relevant, Mordheim is a campaign game where you need a regular group of pals to play with, and if you have that then the old Mordheim rules work just fine. Get together for a weekend, order some pizza, pull up the rules online, cut & scotch tape the empty pizza boxes into ruined building terrain, and play some games on the kitchen table. Even when it comes to minis support, if you have enough people to play a mordheim campaign, chances are one of them can get access to a 3d printer.
while you're right, thats true of literally every GW game.
-
1
-
-
4 hours ago, Tonhel said:
I think it means that there is currently a logistical problem to release such a big release for TOW. GW is swamped with stuff they still need to release for AoS/40K. They already struggle to keep everything in stock for TK, Bretonnia and O&G.
But with the change of scope of the project it seems that their original plans to release Cathay and Kislev are back on the table. Although I would rather see these not to soon. There is still so much to do with the current core factions.
I think you're right. Additionally, I think a main factor is that they need to get the existing factions they built the game around out first, and thats going to take at least the rest of the year. I also suspect that once that happens we're going to start seeing at least some of the "PDF only" factions. Maybe not all of them, and maybe not right away, but I think its inevitable that at least some are coming.
-
1
-
-
On 3/27/2024 at 2:23 PM, foxicious said:
Just chiming in to say that I am not a fan of the idea of souping the Daughters with all the CoS Delves simply for the reason that they are Delves.
I feel like if something like this was intended, the opportunity to implement this would have been the "liberation" of Anvilgard imo. Of course this doesn't mean it wouldn't happen now if GW wanted to do it.
That being said I also don't like the idea of a combined tome of Morathi and Malerion elves. It will probably happen to reduce the number of elven factions, but I still don't like it 🤣
Uh huh.
Personally, I have 0 interest in seeing Dark elves added to DoK. I got into DoK for how elf women, not random dudes. They established aesthetic of the army is women. Adding in existing Dark elves would ruin that.
I'm not thrilled with a shared book either, if only because I suspect Daughters would get none of the attention, and Malarion would suck up all the releases. As someone with (currently) no interest in Malarion thats just not attractive to me at all.
I think Dark Elves have a good home in Cities, and I hope they stay there.-
3
-
4
-
-
On 3/27/2024 at 11:50 AM, Ragest said:
Delves are in danger aswell, like older human minis like the tanks, the chicken or the flagellants. Same with spiders in Gloomspite or Bonesplitterz, maybe graveguard and such and the skink range.
To be honest, I think everything pre endtimes can leave AoS at some point.
Theres no way they'll cut Skinks from Seraphon. They just didn't get refreshed in the last wave, thats all. We'll see them eventually. I agree that most pre-AoS models will eventually be redone. They won't be cut. They're not going to cut Daughters of Khaine, even though the entire core of teh army is from WHFB.
The most likely scenario for any model at all is that it will eventually get resculpted. That's especially true of BOC. Building an army is a decades long investment. They won't throw that away. Theres literally no reason to.-
1
-
-
On 3/27/2024 at 11:36 AM, Hollow said:
It's not good for the game to stagnate and never change either. I can see at least a good dozen reasons why GW are going in this direction. It makes perfect sense to me.
Please list them. I would LOVE to see them.
-
3
-
-
On 3/27/2024 at 10:15 AM, Jagged Red Lines said:
Of course. But it's pure speculation, and imo far less likely, that they'll get abandonware matched play rules that'll last the entire edition.
Thats what Indexes are though. Rules that last until an army gets a book. We've seen this before multiple times.
It also makes zero sense to move BOC to legends at the beginning of the edition. The entire point of Indexes is they can release them all at once, and then get around to doing books when they get around to it. Even if thats never. If thats the case with BOC, they'll be on their index until they get a new book or until the next set of indexes. -
On 3/24/2024 at 12:33 PM, The Red King said:
I don't understand the attitude toward BoC rumors. It's like every rumor we have says they're being removed and this is the one time we don't believe them because... we don't want to?
Then there's the "they probably meant they're getting updated/refreshed" line which is based on nothing but hopes and dreams. The rumors say nothing about a revamp and where would it even go with Chaos getting a skaven refresh, darkoath refresh, rumored chorfs and presumably something for Khorne or at least ONE of the big 4 sometime in the near future. Starts to look like BoC are getting a revamp like genestealer cults and sisters. In like 10 years.
I think you have it wrong. The origin of the rumor was that the models were being removed so the line could be reworked, similar to how High Elves were removed from Cities to make way for Realm Lords. People panicked and only head the first part, and every other rumor came out of that panic. As far as I know there's no reliable rumor that says the line is ONLY being removed.
Tp be fair, the original rumor is also somewhat suspect. So I think there's very good reason for people to not believe it. The entire rumor is mostly panic and echo chamber.
As a side note, I think its very possible that a person could hear the line IS being removed and pass that rumor on without knowing or understanding that the line is actually being reworked for a future release. I'm not saying that's what happened, but I do think that could be very likely.-
5
-
1
-
-
22 hours ago, kaykas said:
but the thing is i want the plastics of the box in miniatures not in scenary, they can add the scenary in the little boxes not in the big one
I'd much prefer they leave out teh Stormcast and give us scenery instead. you need scenery to play the game, and more is always useful. You don't need Stormcast at all, and those that want Stormcast already are spoiled for choice.
-
5 minutes ago, Lord_of_theRavenspire said:
Also IG because Orcs and Gobs technically have a bunch of new plastics that can be ported over from AOS
Stone trolls, squig herds, squig hoppers, (extortionately priced) wolf riders, fanatics...
It's a bit boring but as they go they're one of the better looking factions rnYeah, they may have felt that the army was already very complete.
-
I do wonder if...
1. There maybe IS an O&G plastic kit coming, but for whatever reason it wasn't ready for this launch. Maybe instead it will be saved for a campaign book later.
2. Maybe this Dwarf model already existed in some form, so was easy to bring into production. Maybe it had been designed for 8th and scrapped. Maybe it even got as far as a render. It looks like a very modern model to me, but 8th wasn't really that long ago.
-
2 minutes ago, Ejecutor said:
Also, it is curious that it is a box containing 2 models.
I'm not surprised by that. We already saw this with the Tomb King dragon. I bet we'll see it more. Its an easy way for them to release multiple models for an army without having to do extra kits. If they're limited to 1 plastic kit a quarter (like Necromunda was for awhile, I think) using it to produce 2 models is smart.
-
1
-
-
On 3/21/2024 at 2:19 AM, Tonhel said:
I like it. Happy to see another plastic kit! Will buy it!
When Orc & Goblins didn't have a new plastic kit I assumed they had only created ones for the two launch factions. But now we have this great kit. so now I wonder if other factions WILL get new plastic kits. If so I wonder why O&G got skipped? We know they only have limited resources, but why choose this dwarf kit over a new Orc kit?
-
On 3/14/2024 at 5:57 AM, JerekKruger said:
Yeah that's kinda where I am at the moment. Ideally I want an unarmoured horse, and there just aren't any that work.
what about the new mounted Lady for the Bretts?
The Rumour Thread
in Age of Sigmar Discussions
Posted
Uh huh. But those are narrative themes. We're talking about visual themes. Thats not the same thing.