[The Rumour Thread]

33 minutes ago, Twisted Firaun said:

Tamurkhan

23 minutes ago, Goatforce said:

Tamurkhan

Legitimately curious; every time Nurgle is mentioned Tamurkhan is the number 1 go to as far as new characters goes.

I do not remember anyone ever mentioning the Glottkin. Any reason why they would not be a good pick as well?

[The Rumour Thread]

1 minute ago, Vasshpit said:

Do any BoC players just proxy ogroids for bullgors? It's like the same design with just a different head. 

I suggested so (and pointed out that this was a missed opportunity to do a dual Ogroid/Bullgor kit).

One small point of difference, beside the heads are the fact that Beastman do not have tails.

[The Rumour Thread]

Looks more than a just a Warcry warband to me.... is it really happening?

[The Rumour Thread]

1 hour ago, Gothmaug said:

Don't we already have a Vrykos vampire lord that has a thing for bats (Lady Annika). Besides Soulblight Gravelords needed another unique foot hero like I need another hole in my head. By my count this new Vamp Lord would make the 15th foot hero (13th unique) for Gravelords.

Even sillier, it's hard to understand why they thought Vyrkos needed an 8th unique character while all other only have one. At least they could have given the Battletome a new Vyrkos themed cover...

 

Vyrkos:

- Belladamma Volga

- Gorslav

- Kritza

- Lady Annika

- Radukar (x2)

- Torgilius

- Halgrim

 

Avengorii:

- Lauka Vai

 

Kastelai:

- Prince Vhordai

 

Legion of Night:

- Mannfred

 

Legion of Blood:

- Neferata

[The Rumour Thread]

57 minutes ago, Captaniser said:

That's a...wow

What you don't see is the fact that the Slaanesh symbol on the top is actually the tip of a fountain of sweet Slaaneshi nectar of unknown origin.

Also I heard that the ribbed texture of the rock provide quite the sensations to anyone wanting to rub his back against it.

 

[The Rumour Thread]

2 hours ago, The Lost Sigmarite said:

I've been thinking about it. What BoC unit would do the best to be redone as a Warcry band ? To me, it's the Bestigors. They're special enough to warrant a Warcry box, instead of Gors and Ungors who you need to keep (~) cheap (money wise) because they're your battleline. Whereas Bestigors ? They're elite, they're independant, could use diversity in their minis, they would fit right in Warcry. 

Or underworlds for that matter.

The lone Warcry Beastman they did in the Spire Tyrants was one of the most awesome model they released.

Such a shame he is tied to a StD warband.

[Let's Chat: Chosen Axes]

On 3/11/2023 at 6:15 AM, Hannibal said:

Hi,

 

do you have any experience with Rivals Decks + Chosen Axes? We like to play that format but I do not have any experience with Chosen Axes and prebuilt decks.

 

 

look there to get an idea of options

https://www.battle-mallet.com/nemesis-decks/

Keep in mind the warband is one of the first ones released and has not aged well (it's probably one of the worst in the game) so I would not recommend tracking them down if you are new to the game

[The Rumour Thread]

Not sure if it was mentioned, but it seems the Khorne hero is female!

[The Rumour Thread]

1 hour ago, MothmanDraws said:

The true suffering for us will be this weekend when they announce the new battletomes Khorne and Chaos dwarves, no slaanesh book until 4th edition

Well they did remove Khorne, Slaanesh, SBGL and OBR books from their website, so there is little chance they do not receive a new one soon. 

[Why doesn't GW publish board and card games?]

6 hours ago, Aeryenn said:

So what do you think? Will GW eventually move into those areas?

Hard to say, even the new Cursed City game is pretty bellow average as far as similar dungeons crawler games go.

The sad thing is there are fantastic Warhammer games like Chaos in the Old World released in 2009 by FFG, but since GW parted ways with them, I dont know if we ever saw any Warhammer game worth mentioning.

[The Rumour Thread]

We received a Khorne slaughter-priest not long ago. They have staffs like sorcerers.

[The Rumour Thread]

21 minutes ago, Jetlife said:

What if the Theridons become the new Beast type faction? 

There is a decent amount of lore growing with them that I do wonder if they have bigger plans for them down the line. We have seen them before take one design aesthetic and turn it into an army. 

That's true and I do love the models (and they are from ghur), though the units are way too cheap in points to build an entire STD army around them, so I had to pass on that.
Weirdly enough, they were a Destruction faction before having their city being destroyed by orruks and joining Archaon 

[The Rumour Thread]

5 minutes ago, KingBrodd said:

There are only 2 Chaos Factions that havent recieved a proper AOS update and that is Beasts of Chaos and Skaven.

The most frustrating part is they seem to be missing easy opportunities.

For example they just release a trio of bad-ass looking bull like creatures in the form of Ogroid Theridons; one champion, one musician and one flag bearer. Does that remind anyone of a Best of Chaos unit?
They even went the extra mile and made them alternative heads and horns sculpts.

Why couldn't they include some bullgors heads as well? Why not do an easy refresh of an old unit?

 

[The Rumour Thread]

6 minutes ago, MitGas said:

I feel like very few want more Tzaangors before anything else currently. 😇 I do like them though. Still love Enlightened, my favorite unit in the game!

I never got the last Underworld warband that had a tzaangor in it (they were not good in Underworlds and I dont play Tzeentch), but I am with you on this, I'd like to have the new warband with a lot of varied units: mortal, demons, tzaangor and maybe a curseling?

I really hope they are not as boring and uniform as the last DOK warband...

[The Rumour Thread]

1 hour ago, RileyArlic said:

How are they ranking them? It's too easy for a couple of nerds to have strong opinions, start a website, and then display those opinions with their own sense of bias.

Ferban up there already answered some of that, but I'll add that only registered users can leave a ranking (and only one obviously) and it takes a lot of vote to influence the ranking. For example for Underworlds, there are some 2800 users that rated the game.

1 hour ago, RileyArlic said:

AoS being so low reeks of strong opinions. 

There is certainly a bit of that, but many other GW games did very well and let's not forget there are more than 125 000 ranked games on BBG, so it is not the worst thing being at 4270.

BGG's ranking reflects the opinion of the whole gaming community, not just the wargaming one, so as much as everyone here might like the game, we would be kidding ourselves if we said AOS has the possibility to become a fan favorite game across gamers from all around the World.

51 minutes ago, Ferban said:

BGG has lots of titles beyond strict board games.  But it is primarily a board game site.  It caters to boardgamers and reflects their opinions.

This is true, but aren't wargames just a subtype of board games? It's been a long time since the expression referred only to traditional games played on an actual board.

1 hour ago, Ferban said:

And, in my experience, there does tend to be a small (though vocal) group of individuals who really dislike GW as a company and downrate many of their games.  

Sure, but again, the list I gave prove some of GW games are considered excellent as well.

[The Rumour Thread]

23 minutes ago, Marcvs said:

so, leaving aside that no you can't (at current rules we're still playing with real line of sight, last time I checked)

You are right of course, you'd certainly needs some small tweaks to be able to play AOS with tokens.

 

26 minutes ago, Marcvs said:

in your opinion, is Warhammer Underworlds a wargame or not?

Probably not according to most people definition of wargames and I do not claim otherwise.

 

29 minutes ago, Marcvs said:

As for the boardgamegeek ranking, I don't find it particularly conclusive that the users of a website aimed at board gaming ranks first a GW game which closely resembles a... board game.

That is a common misconception. Like I mentioned, basically any type of tabletop game are ranked on there, including Magic the gathering (a card game, actually ranked quite high at 155) and Dungeons and dragons (role-play). There are also many wargames well rated on BGG, though it really depend what someone considers a wargame (X-Wing for example is in the top 200)

But that is beside the point I was making. My point was that Underworlds is fantastic publicity for GW as a ton of gamers look at BGG to know if a game is good or not and in doing so, might come in the Warhammer universe thanks to the (excellent) rating of that game.

[The Rumour Thread]

5 hours ago, Marcvs said:

My point was that it is not "not a traditional wargame", its place lies entirely outside the scope of the "wargame" hobby. Simply, it's a boardgame and/or card game, and the miniatures (like in other games of course) are simply pretty tokens.

I guess you could also just replace AOS minis by tokens as well or standees, as long as they have the same base size (not that anyone would do that). For me this is a moot point.

 

One thing that certainly set Warhammer Underworlds apart is that it is currently the best ranked game manufactured by GW on Boardgamegeek.com. Their ranking include all types of games, from cards games to roleplaying games and anything sitting in the top 1000 can be considered to be part of the best 10% of games. 

 

Here is the ranking for some of GW games:

868 - Warhammer Underworlds

1104 - Warhammer Quest (1995)

1507 - Warhammer Quest: Blackstone Fortress (2018)

2115 - Warhammer Quest: Silver Tower (2016)

2385 - Kill Team

2449 - Warcry

2822 - 40k

4270 - AOS

 

There are some Warhammer games better ranked than Underworlds, but they are all OOP games from FFG (from the time they had the IP). So if you want an existing Warhammer game or simply one that has GW miniatures in them, Underworlds would really be the recommended option according to BBG (a site widely recognized and used by most gamers as a main reference).

Note on ranking: Editions are considered different games on BBG, so I only noted the best rated one for each GW's games.