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19 minutes ago, The Red King said:
No need to be nervous. They're almost definitely going to get removed at some point so why not jump straight to outrage! (This is only half joking cause I'm bitter, but in all honesty having played wood elves I wouldn't spend much time and money expecting them to stick around. Buy em if you like em, plan to use them in ToW, or just have the money to burn but expect the worst and don't get burned).
My entire attitude is the perfect example of why this is an absolute stupid move by GW. Can't reccomend anything but the newest release with any confidence because apparantly they'll just remove entire supported armies whenever they feel like it.
Edit: But hey we can't complain because GW is going to launch their new Warhammer:paperweights so you're not allowed to be upset because your army is "still usable".
I understand how you feel, my first army ( and favourite) for Warhammer was Chaos Dwarfs. So I went from army book and models, to get you by Ravening Hordes pamphlet with nothing, to nothing at all, to super expensive Forgeworld, to nothing, to Legends and now nothing but percolating rumours. On top of that they were in and out of the background and had their place on the map given to Ogres.
But until it happens, there’s always hope. This Whitefang fellow isn’t omniscient, and GW come up with new plans and concepts. So their future isn’t set in (herd)stone.
If the worst happens just don’t burn your army on a door.
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‘Beasts of Chaos’ might go but that doesn’t necessarily mean there will be no faction that are beasts of chaos, just we’d see a new range and new name for it. Even if they are dropped in their entirety, it doesn’t mean they won’t return. Personally I find their current fluff exceedingly underwhelming and dislike their whole “hate the chaos gods because they’re not Chaos undivided enough” thing, so I’d be fine with a complete rework.
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I feel like they over estimated demand for the measuring gauges.
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2 minutes ago, EntMan said:
Are they allowed to eat Psykers?
Sometimes. There was an old White Dwarf army list that expanded on the Kroot and their various adaptation. It also established that eating chaos and tyranids is a bad idea, leads to unpleasant future traits involving tentacles you don’t want.
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2 hours ago, Pizzaprez said:
Fwiw, they're pretty good at being "Kroot Hounds" ngl; I don't really know what else they could reasonably look like?
Looking at 'em again, are these kroots who have eaten so many dogs that they've become dog-like? Isn't that a thing for that species? Like winged Kroot and such? Bc they almost look like they're running on all fours; with wrist guards on even? They could actually be combined with Clanrats to make some nice looking Wolf-rats tbh! Just need the heads and tails from em: could be a good use of parts for anyone rocking any ape-rats that get updatedKroot absorb DNA from what they eat which affects how their species evolves. The Kroot hounds (and Krootox, gnarlocs etc) are evolutionary dead ends, where a group evolved too far down the quadruped path. Shapers try to avoid this by directing what their Kroot kinbands should eat.
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16 hours ago, Thalassic Monstrosity said:
Narratively, GW seems to have filled the "threat from the dark, untamed wilds" with Kruleboyz. They even had a teaser image about eyes shining from the dark woods or something. I like Kruleboyz just fine but when they revealed the image was for a new breed of orruk and NOT new Beastmen, I said a bad word or two.
They don't even have horns. Losers.
For Destruction. If you look at each Grand Alliance, they all have their variant of “wild savage” - Sylvaneth, Flesh Eaters and Kruleboyz - and Beasts of Chaos are the Chaos equivalent. I would argue that the Kruleboyz weren’t the “replacement” for Beastmen, but Bonesplitterz.
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1 minute ago, Pizzaprez said:
I agree completely! They even sold the entire range of Chaos Demons with both circle and square bases in the box for years!!
But there's a lot of precedent for this in AoS, even if I hate it. From where I'm standing, the only reason Cities still have Steam Tanks any Duardin is because they're filling tactical niches that the army wouldn't have otherwise. With Dwarfs getting added to TOW, I think their days in Cities are numbered.
With all the narrative work they did for cities, I'm with you that I'd rather see the entirety of HElves, DElves, and WElves added to Cities rules-wise even if I have to source circle bases for them. As it stands, I think GW would rather me counts-as everything that isn't in the book by default instead of trying to strike an internal balance between like four or five different armies under the same umbrella.WElves were cut from cities, and will be back with all their missing stuff for TOW while now being unable to be "officially" used in AoS. To me, that's crazy. I'd love to build a swifthawk chariot!
It even looks like GW is bringing back the old chaos warriors so they don't have the same sculpt for the same dudes in both settings. Idk; I hate it, and it's still a rumor, but it's completely within the realm of possibility for me based on how GW has handled things with AoS and TOWExcept it’s a different situation with the Aelves. While the Wood and High Elf models have gone, their aesthetic and creative niche remain - in the form of Sylvaneth and Lumineth respectively. That’s why they are gone and Dark Elves remain. I’ve no doubt that should “Umbraneth” become a reality, Dark Elf Kits will go. Same with the cities Duardin and Steam tanks. When there’s a true standard dwarfs Duardin and cog-vehicles they’ll go.
Beasts of Chaos haven’t had their niche filled by another. Aesthetically they’re the only wild, savage Chaos force. Until GW make “Creatures of Chaos” or something, there’s no real reason to assume their imminent squatting.
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29 minutes ago, Gutsu17 said:
Absolutely aggree with you, gw doesnt squat things just because they want, or because they are old and ugly, or because they are unpopular, they may not invest in it, but they arent squatting it unless theres a financial reason.
Gw squats thing when they dont have money to support it, thats why prior to 40k 8th ed and closing of FB, they were phasing out specialist games (epic, battlefleet, mordheim, necromunda and more) which culminated in Warhammer fantasy being squatted as a result of being less valuable than 40k (if 8th ed wasnt as much of a success that it was, gw would start squatting 40k factions until we are left only with space marines). Now GW has plenty of money, and can allow itself to support more nieche things, thus the comeback of a bunch of old stuff and even more of it in the form of Killteam, warcry, underworlds. So i personally take any rumors of squatting with a giant grain of salt, gw will be squatting things when space marines cant support this thing with their sales anymore, thats how it works, and space marines are selling like hotcakes currently
GW also squat things when they have no creative direction to take them in. That was the reason why the Squats vanished in the first place. As second edition was coming around, they were moving away from “Fantasy in Space” and there just wasn’t a consistent vision on where to take the Squats. Compared to their Epic incarnation, where the scale allowed the focus on their feats of engineering and so they remained in the game longer, they were all over the place.Beastmen have maintained a consistent creative style in AoS, and have a creative niche. There’s no reason to remove them narratively or financially.
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37 minutes ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said:
Come on now. There are a lot of non-business reasons to be in favour of non-restrictive list building. I am saying this as someone who builds pretty much only combined arms lists.
Agreed. I would hate to see AoS go down the 40K route, where catering to the competitive scene has annihilated fun/narrative list building.
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39 minutes ago, Clan's Cynic said:
It should have stayed unreleased. Not a fan of Bretonnian Lord Jesus on foot.
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28 minutes ago, flying_dutchman said:
Please. They're such a thematic objective for aos. I'd love a box for my personal collection. I didn't start collecting terrain until I bought my house. Although some of the old "whfb" terrain is also on my wishlist.
I want a new set myself, mainly because the originals were cast in the horrendous plastic used for the early AoS and some 40K terrain, which was a nightmare to glue and paint.
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37 minutes ago, Grunbag said:
Alright. I thought they could have used the AoS boc models that aren’t ported to TOW and merge them with new chaos duradin . They could have been hashut representation aswell unlike lumineth has aelves and creature range in the army .
That would not go down well. Having your army squatted and merged into a previously unrelated one would annoy players of beasts.
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1 hour ago, Grunbag said:
Is there a link between BoC and hashut ? If they get rid of beast of chaos , Is it possible that endless spell and BoC terrain could be used for chaos duardin representing hashut ? Or GW never made a move like this ?
No link, beyond Chaos Duardin probably use some as slaves. And BoC have their stupid hating the Chaos gods lore so they wouldn’t worship Hashut.
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34 minutes ago, Hollow said:
I may be completely wrong and GW may change course. I just think we will never see models used in AoS in any ToW material. Just like we haven't so far. However, it doesn't stop people from using whatever models they want. I just think "officially" there will be no cross-compatibility. I've said my piece regarding this, and time will tell.
I think you’re right - at least in that we won’t see models made for AoS in official TOW marketing and publications - if only because a lot have parts that are very mush AoS specific. To use the Rockguts again as the example, they’ve got bits of Stormcast on them.
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3 hours ago, sandlemad said:
This gets brought up by fans sometimes but there’s never been any evidence for it for artists and writers (where it’s better attributed to GW business and marketing practices), and it’s especially inaccurate for sculptors. They regularly feature interviews on WHC and in WD where folks like Maxime Pastourel talk about particular minis they’ve done and design choices they’ve made.
It still happened and it’s why GW moved away from crediting specific creators. Matt ended up taking two years off of work because of the stress from the harassment. Over a game of toy soldiers.
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2 hours ago, Big Kim Woof-Woof said:
That'd be nice. I can't understand the trend of not crediting individual designers/writers/artists. Very corporate and faceless. Seems a shame.
It’s to avoid another Matt Ward situation where an unpopular product leads to its designer receiving death threats.
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17 minutes ago, lele said:
I believe this is nighthaunt
I’m thinking a differently named replacement for the Cairnwraith. The existing model will depart back to the Old World.
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2 hours ago, Luperci said:
That's what I thought too back when the kroot kill team came out but 10th ed just completely killed that for me
This silhouette is the first thing to give me a twinge of excitement for 40K since 10th slammed on the brakes. I’ve got quite a substantial Kroot army, so new models are more than welcome even if it turned out to be a singular beast riding character.
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2 hours ago, Ejecutor said:
Am I? Stormcast got quite a big armour change and I think the overall consensus is positive. Why fearing giving a step to break Spaces Marines monotony? I think it wouldn't be that bad. And imo users that buy Marines won't complain that much and would get used to it.
You must’ve have missed the wailing and gnashing of teeth that went on when the 2nd edition of Horus Heresy was announced with mk VI as the core kit. And that was for an existing, established design.
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1 hour ago, Acrozatarim said:
Yeah, the Dark Angel stuff doesn't feel like that big a reveal to be termed 'huge', although maybe I'm just a little jaded about 40k releases at the moment
It’s an army launch box, that counts as huge.
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28 minutes ago, Nezzhil said:
I am a bit depressed, no Chorfs or Hobgrots are coming soon...
I’ve been waiting since the year 2000, you get used to it.
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1 hour ago, Vasshpit said:
Had my suspicions as well.
Anyone confirm?
Not without lifting a loincloth
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1 hour ago, madmac said:
Possible, but still raises the question of why now? I don't think anything they are showing now is for the 4E launch box and Dawnbringers has already given SC Ionus and the Blacktalons, I don't see some random generic foot hero showing up for Book 4 or 5.
Some of the rumour pictures have taken a long time to materialise so it’s not outside the realms of possibility it’s from a new starter set.
The Rumour Thread
in Age of Sigmar Discussions
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But boy are they still moaning about it. On every GW social media post, AoS or otherwise.