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I like both list.
I like glutos very much and think this could be very worse for the SoB with the massiv amount of debuffs.
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45 minutes ago, Jaskier said:
he shield adds an effective 8 additional wounds, for what amounts to an effective 24 wound 4+ save model; stack Finest Hour, All Out Defense, Mystic Shield, etc and you can probably keep it alive for a good while against shooting
Sry that are 5-6 more Wounds. And jes against shootie it could make sense.... BUT:
46 minutes ago, Jaskier said:For that reason, I favor the shield, especially as regardless of which subfaction you go a Keeper is going to be a very high priority target for any opponent.
The Question: Did u have the first round or your Enemy? What did u have beside the Keeper ?! What matchups can snipe a keeper from far far away very easylie (LRL=jes; SC= Okay..anything else?!?! (KO need 12-18" to be really really efffektive)
And to the AntiHordAttack rule= U have many many Hordes who have 2-3 Attacks from the beginning and can stack 1-2 (3) more Attacks so (my son (10) play Blades of KHorne and Bloddcrusher with 5 or 6 Attacks each or just 2 in a 6 or 9er Unit make a very very different think )
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1 hour ago, Wordy9th said:
The shield
edit- though if I’m summoning a keeper then other weapon options are viable. You can’t risk just being shot off the board with no ward early game.
Isa the Shooting think in your Community as heavy that u need it ?!?! I think if i face a very very heavy shooting List my Keeper died anyway with or without Ward and in every other Matchup it is not that much of a think. But hey the Agis is a avaibel opion and the Ward Buff (36+ DP) comes late, especially if u want to Summon something....
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What do u think, is a Double-Keeper List in Invaders "work" ?! Maybe something like this :
SpoilerAllegiance: Slaanesh
- Host: Invaders Host
- Grand Strategy: Take What's Theirs
- Triumphs: Inspired
Leaders
Keeper of Secrets (370)*
- General
- Ritual Knife
- Command Trait: Best of the Best
- Spell: Flamming Weapon
Keeper of Secrets (370)
- Living Whip
- Spell: Lash of Slaanesh
The Contorted Epitome (240)*
- Artefact: Icon of Infinite Excess
- Lore of Slaanesh: Pavane of Slaanesh
Battleline
20 x Daemonettes (220)*
- Reinforced x 1
11 x Blissbarb Archers (140)*
11 x Blissbarb Archers (140)*
Units
5 x Slickblade Seekers (210)*
3 x Fiends (170)*
Endless Spells & Invocations
Mesmerising Mirror (60)
Core Battalions
*Battle Regiment
Total: 1920 / 2000
Reinforced Units: 1 / 4
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 109
Drops: 2 -
8 hours ago, Grimrock said:
but I'm not really sure what to do with battalions for it. Does anyone have any thoughts?
I dont know. I want to go first or Maybe most of the time because of the Mask, becaouse of EuphoricK and the Buffs (I feel the -1 to Hit buff super importent right at the start of the Game so i want the 12 DP Points in my first round) so.... i dont really know what i think about your list.
5 hours ago, Twisted Firaun said:Hey everyone, what’s the best way to build a Keeper f Secrets?
puhh i#am not really sure, every form has its good Boni:
Wip: Very nize against hordes with 2 or more Attacks speziall very Mounted or Monster/hero with just a few but very strong attacks.
Knife: Very save Way to make Mortals very good against very tanky Units (Dragons or something like this)
Hand: 3 (6er) Heal save, nize. Useless if the Keeper died in 1 round, but super nize so....mhmm...
S. Aegis: 5+ Ward right away, very good if u get super early much dmg. If u are planning to reach very early the 36+ DP Mark (without any/much summoning mhmm okay)
U see it depends on your Gaming Group/the Meta and your playstyle and PLan.... so feel free buy 4-5 Keeper
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I See Many List. Realy realy cool Batteltome i think. The Think i think i like on every host other thinks the most (Different Host had dirrefent cool stuff like Pretenders Trait, Goodseeker Artfakts, Invaders Spells and so on and on)
a Question: Seekers (Blissbard/Sickblades) are now Batteline?!
So my list is a mix at the beginnen like that:
SpoilerAllegiance: Slaanesh
- Host: Pretenders Host
- Grand Strategy: The Day is Ours!
- Triumphs: Inspired
Leaders
Glutos Orscollion, Lord of Gluttony (480)*- Lore of Pain and Pleasure: Phantasmagoria
Lord of Pain (135)*
- General
- Command Trait: Strength of Goodhood
- Artefact: The Crown of Dark Secrets
- Host Option: Strength of Godhood
The Contorted Epitome (190)- Lore of Slaanesh: Born of Damnation
The Masque (140)*
Battleline
5 x Symbaresh Twinsouls (140)*
5 x Myrmidesh Painbringers (145)*
22 x Blissbarb Archers (300)*
- Reinforced x 1
Units
5 x Blissbarb Seekers (200)*
5 x Slickblade Seekers (200)*
Endless Spells & Invocations
Mesmerising Mirror (60)
Core Battalions
*Battle Regiment
Total: 1990 / 2000
Reinforced Units: 1 / 4
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 117
Drops: 2 -
Did we knew more about the 'generic Army abaility' ?! Or is it with the TP Dice and this is it? What is with the Locus of Slaneesh? What is with other abylitieys !?!?!? More More More
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34 minutes ago, Third said:
Most likely yes. Euphoric Killers, which gave the exploding 6s have been totally changed now 😉
Mhmm... i feel very confused if Hedonits Units than generate enough CombatPower. The Attacks are not very Strong.
Maybe u are forced to Power Up the DP very quickly because of the Buffs, and if the Oppournent can deney this ure Army is very poor peforminc.
I am very afraid of a toothless tiger, so that your Army CAN be super strong on paper but will be a super lame Duck on the Battelfield. We will see 🤔
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Hey Guys,
Hej i think it could be very easy to get the full DP and heja the buffs are sweet.
But...
the second buff and Mortals by hitting 6ses.... Did this mean there are no more exploding 6ses for more hits ?!?!
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On 2/7/2023 at 12:28 AM, Lord Krungharr said:
Seems like the Cabalists are my favorite to help get spells off, though I'm also tempted by Despoilers
I would say go for a Everchoosen List with Warrior, Choosen or
Despoiler List with 3 Mutaths
or Cabalists but jes u need more EndleesSpells
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2 hours ago, Ravinsild said:
I got destroyed tonight and I just have no answers.
So most of the game in this Games is POstion position position.
U cant win with every S2D List as Easy as with other against every list but a) u have enough Screen or b) your Units are durabily enough to stand the first wave.
If u stand there and play a Knight list go for the Turn, charge him, he/she will drop in frotn of u and in his back. Take the First Strike Artefact for ur LOrd on Mount/Karadrake and then activate the Knights after this so u maybe kill a Fulmi or 2. There are always Armys and list with are very very difiicult to win against and other easyer. And lets be serious if u roll ****** (just always 1-3 for ur Varanguards) the game go`s ******
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Ähm What Subfraction u choose ?!
Maybe u take Tzeenth Sorcerer because of standing more in front for Closer to Enemys...
SpoilerMaybe something like this:
Allegiance: Slaves to Darkness
- Damned Legion: Cabalists
- Mortal Realm: Ghur
- Grand Strategy: Take What's Theirs
- Triumphs:
Leaders
Slaves to Darkness Daemon Prince (195)
- Sword
- Mark of Chaos: Nurgle
Chaos Sorcerer Lord (120)
- Mark of Chaos: Tzeentch
Chaos Lord (115)
- Reaperblade & Daemonbound Steel
- Mark of Chaos: Slaanesh
Chaos Sorcerer Lord on Manticore (265)
- General
- Command Trait: Master of Magic
- Mark of Chaos: Tzeentch
- The Lore of the Damned: Binding Damnation
Chaos Lord (115)
- Reaperblade & Daemonbound Steel
- Mark of Chaos: Tzeentch
Battleline
5 x Chaos Marauder Horsemen (105)
- Axes & Shield
10 x Chaos Warriors (220)
- Hand Weapon & Shield
5 x Chaos Marauder Horsemen (105)
- Axes & Shield
Units
10 x Chaos Chosen (480)
- Mark of Chaos: Slaanesh
- Ensorcelled Banner: The Banner of Screaming Flesh
- Reinforced x 1
Endless Spells & Invocations
Darkfire Daemonrift (80)
Realmscourge Rupture (60)
Ravenak's Gnashing Jaws (70)
Chronomantic Cogs (70)
Total: 2000 / 2000
Reinforced Units: 1 / 4
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 109
Drops: 9
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1 hour ago, KrispyXIV said:
important requirement for fight twice to be good
Jes. Or u had to choose your fights wisely. So charge a flank unit, kill 7 of 10 Modells and kill the rest with second actiovation so u are free in the next herophase/Movementphase. Could be very helpfull.
I play S2D to with choosen and very often i use the second activation to have them free of enemys in 3" for next round
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20 minutes ago, Enoby said:
Slaangor buff!
Lets see if everything else (Points, rest of the Warscroll and rules) stay untouched. if it is so it would be a buff jes. Are they than mega cool, i dont know but they are better right.
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16 hours ago, KrispyXIV said:
With the intent being Go First, Shoot like crazy, Be'lakor whatever the biggest standing threat is, then shoot em again next turn.
I had another version that ran with two units of seekers and an enrapturess... but the "anvil" brick of Painbringers + LoP may be more utility?
Love ur Idee. But why u dont get for ne new Battalion to hunt down enemy GVChampions so the Other Player is very hard to score Points ?!
my new List:
SpoilerAllegiance: Slaanesh
- Host: Lurid Haze Invaders Host (Host of Chaos)
- Mortal Realm: Ghur
- Grand Strategy: Defend What's Ours
- Triumphs: Indomitable
Leaders
The Contorted Epitome (240)**
- Artefact: Oil of Exultation
- Host Option: General
- Lore of Slaanesh: Hysterical Frenzy
Lord of Pain (130)*
- General
- Command Trait: Feverish Anticipation
Be'Lakor, the Dark Master (360)*
Battleline
22 x Blissbarb Archers (280)**
- Reinforced x 1
22 x Blissbarb Archers (280)**
- Reinforced x 1
22 x Blissbarb Archers (280)*
- Reinforced x 1
5 x Myrmidesh Painbringers (110)*
5 x Myrmidesh Painbringers (110)*
Units
5 x Slickblade Seekers (210)*
Core Battalions
*Battle Regiment
**Diese Galvanic Champion Shootie Battalion
Total: 2000 / 2000
Reinforced Units: 3 / 4
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 132
Drops: 412 hours ago, KrispyXIV said:Daemonettes would be disappointing even if they dropped in points again, but at least they'd have the virtue of being legitimately cheap.
Dämonette need 3 or 4 Attack eh and a procc for to Wound (maybe rend -3 or so) !
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13 hours ago, Bayul said:
They exclusively buff friendly BLADES OF KHORNE units from on.
It was just a question of time.
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so... what do u think:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/Ugb15RoC5uAQIMWi.pdf
is this the push we need? We Want? Or is it just the cherry on the poop ?
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10 hours ago, Carnith said:
on AoS Coach's discord, knights have not been performing for people in large amounts. They work well in 5's because you can go slam them into something for damage, but not to really load up on them.
Hej, yesterday i had a game in a 750 Points "Path of Glory" Game and my opponent played 5 knights PLUS Lord on Karadrake. The Lord go very well dmg but the knights not. After this they very totally crushed by my Chaos Lord and 5 Slaneesh Choosen.
Ich would say: Jes they are nice to roll in flanke but for Cracking the HardFrontWall of the other side off the Board, i take Choosen
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8 hours ago, Lokd0wn said:
Two casts is still possible I think?
Of course.
If u take a Tzeenth Daemon Prince in a Cabalit List. In his HeroAction is ecxactly written what happen if he is already a Wizzard and go for his Heroaction in your own Herophase.
And 3 Cast is Possibel für a Sorcerer with Arcane Tome in Cabalitst or not ?!
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I am very supprised that they didnt change the DaemonPrinz.
The Cabalist Kult is okay all ready, that the Hero who become a DP is taking evrything with it is lore and Cool.
I have at the Weekend a game against the Number 2 of Germany. He play SolblightGravelord. I come with this:
SpoilerAllegiance: Slaves to Darkness
- Damned Legion: Host of the Everchosen
- Mortal Realm: Ghur
- Grand Strategy: No Place for the Weak
Leaders
Be'Lakor, the Dark Master (355)
- Universal Spell Lore: Chaotic CondultSlaves to Darkness Daemon Prince (195)*
- General – Sword - Wings
- Command Trait: Not to be denied
- Artefact: The Conquert Crown
- Mark of Chaos: Nurgle
Chaos Sorcerer Lord (120)*
- Mark of Chaos: Slaanesh
- Universal Spell Lore: Chaotic Condult (Exalted Hero of Chaos (100)*
- Mark of Chaos: Slaanesh -Shield & Axt
Battleline
10 x Chaos Warriors (220) *
- Hand Weapon & Shield- Mark of Chaos: Nurgle
-Banner: NurgleIkone
5 x Chaos Marauder Horsemen (105) *
- Axes & Shield- Mark of Chaos: Nurgle
10 x Chaos Chosen (480)*
- Reinforced x 1- Mark of Chaos: Slaanesh
-Banner: Slaneeshbanner
5 x Chaos Chosen (240)*- Mark of Chaos: Khorne
Behemoths
Chaos Warshrine (185)*
- Prayer1: Universal Prayer Scripture: Heal
- Mark of Chaos: Slaanesh
Core Battalions
*Battle Regiment
Total: 2000 / 2000
Reinforced Units: 1 / 4
Wounds: 119
Drops: 2Any tipps or ..?
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2 hours ago, Biboune said:
I think that cheaper and less efficient screen could be raptoryx:
Hej they are cool too. There are a littel bit other parts i think:
Marauder are a littel bit faster
Marauder are Batteline
Marauder can shoot
Jes just vor blocking and a screen, raptoryx are maybe better but Marauder are a valide Option too.
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8 hours ago, Bayul said:
I just want to mention that the latest Underworlds warband has a S2D warscroll:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/ZcD9kLFQxstrc1ox.pdf
They are DARKOATH but not CULTISTS.They didnt sounds so bad. Are they Abilitys okay ?!?! Do U think u ever use them in a regulär AoS Game ?!
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More Experience with the Builds ?
More Information about the Warscroll Builder ?!
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I Agree a littel bit with @Rors
Do u want to built a Despoiler List? A Monster List? Or A Magic List ?! Or just use the Minis u have ?!?!
My Despoiler List was that:
SpoilerHost: Despoiler
Leader
Dämonenprinz MdN, Axt 195 (BAT1)
General: Bolstered by Chaos
Artefact: The Conquers Crown
Dämonenprinz MdN Sword 195
GThread:Radiance of Dark Glory
Chaos Wizzard MdT 120 (BAT1)
Spell: Bindung Damnation
Chaos Wizzard Manticore MdT 265
Spell: Flaming Weapon
Batteline
20 Chaos Warrior MdN 440 (BAT1)
Banner: The Ironic Icon
1x Horsmen MdN 105 (BAT1)
1xCorvus 80 (BAT1)
Monster
Mutalith Beast MdT 185 (Mons1)
Mutalith Beast MdT 185 (Mons1)
Mutalith Beast MdT 185 (Mons1)
Endlessspells
Geminis 40 Punkte
1995 Punkte
6er Drop…
Or Caster/Cabalen List:
SpoilerAllegiance: Slaves to Darkness
- Damned Legion: Cabalists
Leaders 10 Zauber
DP MdN 195
Artefact: Arcane Tome
Spell:Flamming Weapon/ Spite Tongue Curse
Chaos Wizzard MdT 120
Spell: Binding Damnation / Chaotic Condult
Chaos Wizzard MdT 120
Spell: Chaotic Condult / Daemnic Speed
Chaos Lord auf Mount MdS 170
Spell: Flamming Weapon
Chaos Lord MdN 115
Spell:Chaotic Condult
Chaos Sorcerer auf Manticore MdT 265
General: Master of Magic
Spell: Binding Damnation / Daemnic Speed
Battleline10 CW MdN 220
5 Chaos Knights MdS Banner des Slaneesh 230
9 Corvus Cabale MdU 80
3 Varanguars für MdN 290
Endless Spells & Invocations
Chronomantic Cogs (70)
Ravenak's Gnashing Jaws (60)
Realmscourge Rupture (60)
Total: 1995 / 2000
Reinforced Units: 0 / 4
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 0
Drops: 2- 1
AoS 2 - Slaves to Darkness 2 Discussion
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The Size fit.
But the think is there are rules for Kaghra's Ravagers in AoS. When i see them on the field i think on there rules and so. On a tournement sry guys as the jugde i wont let them play as a Chaoslord or a normal Sorcerer and so on... (sry)