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    Making Lord Aventis / LA on Tauralon work

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    9 hours ago, Killamike said:

    I think a more interesting way to use him would be in conjunction with drocoths.  

    Decent combat,  fairly tanky and increasing those mw shots to 3+. 

    Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals

    Leaders
    Lord-Arcanum on Tauralon (280)
    Lord-Celestant on Dracoth (200)
    - Tempestos Hammer & Thundershield
    Lord-Ordinator (140)
    Lord-Relictor (100)

    Battleline
    5 x Judicators (140)
    - Skybolt Bows
    5 x Judicators (140)
    - Skybolt Bows
    5 x Liberators (90)
    - Warhammer & Shield

    Units
    3 x Aetherwings (40)
    4 x Fulminators (440)

    Artillery
    Celestar Ballista (110)
    Celestar Ballista (110)
    Celestar Ballista (110)

    Endless Spells / Terrain / CPs
    Everblaze Comet (100)

    Total: 2000 / 2000
    Extra Command Points: 0
    Allies: 0 / 400
    Wounds: 104
     
    This is a little mix of everything, shoot, magic and a punchy unit of dracoth+Celestant on dracoth.
    Tauralon is a really cool model that I wanted to use when I choose stormcast and with the dracothian guard seems a fun list!
     

    Making Lord Aventis / LA on Tauralon work

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    Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals
    - Stormhost: Anvils of the Heldenhammer
    Leaders
    Lord-Celestant on Dracoth (200)
    - Tempestos Hammer & Thundershield
    Lord-Ordinator (140)
    Knight-Incantor (120)
    Knight-Incantor (120)
    Lord-Exorcist (90)
    Lord-Arcanum on Tauralon (280)
    - General
    Battleline
    5 x Liberators (90)
    - Warhammer & Shield
    5 x Liberators (90)
    - Warhammer & Shield
    5 x Liberators (90)
    - Warhammer & Shield
    5 x Liberators (90)
    - Warhammer & Shield

    Artillery
    Celestar Ballista (110)
    Celestar Ballista (110)
    Celestar Ballista (110)
    Celestar Ballista (110)

    Battalions
    Grand Convocation (130)

    Endless Spells / Terrain / CPs
    Everblaze Comet (100)

    Total: 1980 / 2000
    Extra Command Points: 1
    Allies: 0 / 400
    Wounds: 105
     
    what ya think!?
    Grand convocation for mantain CP every hero phase + of course ballistas, tauralon for the comet and some support.
    liberators are the body, that can be modified,  2xlib +judicators for more shoot
    Dracoth is a punchy hero to go near tauralon.

    AoS 2 - Stormcast Eternals Discussion

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    Posted · Edited by baiardo

    Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals
    Anvils of Heldenhammer
    Leaders
    Lord-Veritant (110)
    Knight-Vexillor (110)
    - Pennant
    Lord-Castellant (120)

    Battleline
    5 x Judicators (140)
    - Skybolt Bows
    5 x Judicators (140)
    - Skybolt Bows
    5 x Liberators (90)
    - Warhammer & Shield
    5 x Liberators (90)
    - Warhammer & Shield

    Units
    6 x Gryph-Hounds (120)
    10 x Protectors (340)
    6 x Vanguard-Raptors with Hurricane Crossbows (280)
    3 x Castigators (70)

    Battalions
    Stormtower Garrison (160)
    Ven Brecht's Black Watch (160)

    Endless Spells / Terrain / CPs
    Extra Command Point (50)

    Total: 1980 / 2000
    Extra Command Points: 3
    Allies: 0 / 400
    Wounds: 123
     
    Guys I'm theorycrafting a little here, this list have some consistency for you or not?
    the basic idea is positioning the battallion of ven brecht 9'' near enemy lines and shoot x2.
    Raptors for the +3 to hit.
    Protectors for some protection from ranged and a slow "hammer".
    Otherwise, we can take the patrol battallion to cut 30pts, cut castigators for another 70pts and put in a relictor for teleporting raptors, venetor or azyros.

    AoS 2 - Stormcast Eternals Discussion

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    1 hour ago, Marcvs said:

    I feel that the new (leaked) rules for Slaanesh and Depravity generation strongly discourage blocks of tanky-but-not-killy stuff (read: liberators in a Stormkeep), as prolonged fights are the best case scenario for accumulating depravity.

    That's make me think that judicators could really take a more predominant spot as battleline if they drop a little more on points or new sinergies coming up.

    The ven Brecth starter disappointed me a little bit even if I'm a new entry to AoS.😆

    How to expand the army??

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    Posted · Edited by baiardo

    A list with 8desolators took 10th place out of 50 players, goldcon '21 tournament, only problem you might have is the money if you want 4box of dracothian guard XD, 1unit of concussor instead is enough on most cases.

    Also they aren't used so much, new battletome and 3rd edition coming, is much safer to go for 1/2units max and test them.

    AoS 2 - Stormcast Eternals Discussion

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    8 minutes ago, Thanos-se said:

    That's true. I am very enthusiastic about this unit. I am just trying to combine melee and shooting. I suggest 1*9 cause u can use anvils command ability or translocation count them as one unit. If i am gonna use vanguard i must collct the stormcast army from zero. Only evos sequitors and libs until now. I need about 150$ at least for vanguard.

    yeah 9 is a magic number, with raptors.

    Me too started with evo but I fell back on old units(dracoths, paladins libs..) and vanguard, really cool models and promising.

    All said it already but playing vanguard it feels like having flashback of 40k(aesthetically) haha

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    AoS 2 - Stormcast Eternals Discussion

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    41 minutes ago, Thanos-se said:

    I think the *9 Longstrikes are a must at a Stormcast army. It is a powerfull shooting unit. Aetherwings are also a must. They cost nothing and they can grab an objective (last game I could earn at least 2 points).  VR or ballistas??? VR-LC have the MW on 6s for 510 pts / 4*ballistas with Ordinator 580 without MW. If you play Anvils it is more favorable to play VR as it costs you 1 CA. I dunno , a bit confused. I am new and I am trying to solve these maths but I love them. A lot of units and flexibility. I like tryhard.I think the *9 Longstrikes are a must at a Stormcast army. It is a powerfull shooting unit. Aetherwings are also a must. They cost nothing and they can grab an objective (last game I could earn at least 2 points).  VR or ballistas??? VR-LC have the MW on 6s for 510 pts / 4*ballistas with Ordinator 580 without MW. If you play Anvils it is more favorable to play VR as it costs you 1 CA. I dunno , a bit confused. I am new and I am trying to solve these maths but I love them. A lot of units and flexibility. I like tryhard.

    I like that you're so enthusiastic about raptors that you want to repeat the concept more and more!!

    joke aside..

    I prefer raptors, sinergy with vanguard list if you want to go mono shootcast, don't need a hero for support only for them, they can be moved if in danger with LAquilor and 3models on 3bases not in 9

     

    Buyed the second unit today, want to test them in several lists, in skyborn and stormtower battalions for sure.

    AoS 2 - Stormcast Eternals Discussion

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    Posted · Edited by baiardo

    Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals

    Leaders
    Vandus Hammerhand (260)
    - General
    Lord-Castellant (120)
    Knight-Vexillor (110)
    - Meteoric Standard

    Battleline
    5 x Liberators (90)
    - Warhammer & Shield
    5 x Liberators (90)
    - Warhammer & Shield
    5 x Liberators (90)
    - Warhammer & Shield

    Units
    15 x Protectors (510)
    2 x Concussors (220)
    6 x Vanguard-Raptors with Longstrike Crossbows (340)

    Battalions
    Stormtower Garrison (160)

    Total: 1990 / 2000
    Extra Command Points: 1
    Allies: 0 / 400
    Wounds: 115
     
    Hopefully I'm going to test this in 2weeks, I like the new battalion, to me seems good enough but I'm not sure about heroes, skipped the block of libs(nice in the battalion) for concussors and vandus.
    I can face tzench, khorne, goblin, ironjawz and seraphone.

    Dracolines

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    Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals

    Leaders
    Lord-Arcanum on Tauralon (280)
    - General
    Lord-Arcanum on Celestial Dracoline (210)
    Knight-Incantor (120)
    Knight-Incantor (120)
    Lord-Exorcist (90)
    Knight-Azyros (100)

    Battleline
    5 x Liberators (90)
    - Warhammer & Shield
    5 x Liberators (90)
    - Warhammer & Shield
    5 x Liberators (90)
    - Warhammer & Shield

    Units
    6 x Evocators on Dracolines (520)

    Battalions
    Grand Convocation (130)

    Endless Spells / Terrain / CPs
    Everblaze Comet (100)
    Extra Command Point (50)

    Total: 1990 / 2000
    Extra Command Points: 2
    Allies: 0 / 400
    Wounds: 97
     
     
    What about this?
    Tauralon for support the Cats
    Comet to lighten the enemy untis
    Azyros to support Cats attacks or Heraldor to run and charge. Prefer Azyros with tauralon since he gives already +2 to move.
     
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    Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals

    Leaders
    Lord-Arcanum on Tauralon (280)
    - General
    Knight-Incantor (120)
    Knight-Incantor (120)
    Lord-Exorcist (90)

    Battleline
    5 x Liberators (90)
    - Warhammer & Shield
    5 x Liberators (90)
    - Warhammer & Shield
    5 x Liberators (90)
    - Warhammer & Shield

    Units
    6 x Evocators on Dracolines (520)
    6 x Vanguard-Raptors with Longstrike Crossbows (340)

    Battalions
    Grand Convocation (130)

    Endless Spells / Terrain / CPs
    Everblaze Comet (100)
    Prismatic Palisade (30)

    Total: 2000 / 2000
    Extra Command Points: 1
    Allies: 0 / 400
    Wounds: 97
     
    I think there's some potential  also between taularon judicators/hurricane xbow and the new stormtower garrison.
     

    AoS 2 - Stormcast Eternals Discussion

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    Posted · Edited by baiardo

    1 hour ago, Juicy said:

    the dogs did great in all games. People find them anoying to deal with. Killing power of a wett noodle but the perfect screen.  I really hoped that gryphounds would drop to 100 atleast but sadly that didnt happen.

    Haha, Great!

    Can I ask you to share your list with the "good boys"(dogs) please?!:)

    AoS 2 - Stormcast Eternals Discussion

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    7 minutes ago, Juicy said:

    My love would be 60 liberators with astral templars but lost 5 games in a row with it against idoneth and daughters. Somehow i cannot make it work just yet.

     

    Thank you for the detailed resume, always needed to understand better the game, personally I like the aesthtic of the gryph-dog, hope they could see more interaction and maybe some points reduction?

    Yeah, make an efficient "horde" army with 40mm minis could be  fun to see!more libs for all!

    AoS 2 - Stormcast Eternals Discussion

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    2 minutes ago, Juicy said:

    30 liberators is something im loving and trying to make work. Right now im on a 50/50 winrate. Its hard because this block just doenst do any damage..

    I'm happy you have a good response from liberators, they're a big rubber wall!

    In stormkeep you're playing also the lord veritant+gryph hounds and some judicators?

    AoS 2 - Stormcast Eternals Discussion

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    6 minutes ago, Juicy said:

    For just this list you have a few things that are pretty much point wasted.
    -Hammerstrike battalion does nothing really for your paladins since most of that damage comes from starsoul maces and you be removing non starsoul mace guys first. Saves 120 points for more bodys
    -decimators are pretty bad. Slow movement and even in skyborne slayers they underperform. My advice drop them for another free 170 points.
    -Liberators  give the prime a grandhammer.
    -lord relictor with translocation or divine blessing is pretty strong at 1000 points but if you want to make paladins work look into these 2 heroes i write down below.
    -if you go with 10 protectors try to invest into a lord castellant to buff them to a 3+ save. Then invest into a knight heraldor to bump that speed with run and charge.
    -The main problem your list has is. Its slow and no range treat. You can counter this by taking 3 longstrike raptors=170 points. They are solid in 1000 pts.

    Thank you!!

    Super useful advice!!!

    When I'm comfortable using that models it's a good upgrade the prime-celestant or is best investment a block of 30liberators or other 6raptors?

    AoS 2 - Stormcast Eternals Discussion

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    Posted · Edited by baiardo

    Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals

    Leaders
    Lord-Relictor (100)
    - General

    Battleline
    5 x Liberators (90)
    - Warhammer & Shield
    5 x Liberators (90)
    - Warhammer & Shield

    Units
    10 x Protectors (340)
    5 x Decimators (170)
    3 x Prosecutors with Stormcall Javelins (90)

    Battalions
    Hammerstrike Force (120)

    Total: 1000 / 1000
    Extra Command Points: 1
    Allies: 0 / 200
    Wounds: 76
     
    I've been in the game for some months now and want to play test some list ideas with my friends, how do you see that list?
    Also, the only unit I miss are the protectors, is a safe bet take them?
    I like the dracothian guard but doesn't seem to a have a lot of play, too expansive for what they do or what?
     
    Cheers!

    Skyborne Slayers - The Thread

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    Posted · Edited by baiardo

    On 10/4/2020 at 3:38 PM, Juicy said:

    For an example, the skaven battalion "Congregation of Filth" has a unit entry of  a "Plague priest on plague furnace". Here the sub-heading is "on plague furnace". And it can't be ignored

    This is the same for skyborne slayers, it states Lord celestant. That is the full name. There is no sub-heading cause the full name is described. Heck it even came with a battlebox.  It states : Unless it included in the entry for the unit. On both casus the full name is described. 

    I feel like we be rule bending to our advantage here. And going with a lord celestant on stardrake cause the unit entry is lord celestant and we want it to be any lord celestant is kind of lame. With battalions in our battletome these discussions are fixed but now we be talking about a very old battalion and we know the intention of that battalion. That intention didnt change with the new wording.

     

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