Lumi Jo

Truthfully, I'm not sure I have an answer yet. I've not really played enough to gain experience to say, but if pressed I'd probably say I'd prefer to have blocks of 10 rather than blocks of 30, if only for variety's sake. Based on that, a phoenix focus, then? Thanks for clarifying here. The durability of Phoenix Temple units, coupled with an inability to actually resurrect models in Phoenicium makes it seem a bit in conflict with what it actually wants to be doing. Maybe if I was running the Emerald Lifeswarm, which was a great thing to point out to me, by the way. I'll definitely be running one of those. Allarielle (or Drycha, to a lesser extent) would be a neat project if I can justify it alongside all the phoenixes. Kurnoth Hunters are better than Evocators by virtue of me preferring them over Stormcast. Sylvaneth, as I said, is more just a bit of flavour because I really love the models but don't want to go all-in on actually fielding an army of them. A unit of Dryads here or a squad of Hunters or Revenants there would be enough for me. This is good insight. Phoenix Guard don't strike me as too expensive, so I was having trouble justifying something like Eternal Guard or Executioners, but if Dreadspears or Guard can fit in the army as well, then that's good to know.

It definitely clears up some questions that I had about Swifthawk Agents, even if I'm really not a fan of the answer. I have plans to proxy the Mage in there as a Battlemage or something, and possibly some heavy conversation work to put the Prince on a Phoenix might be cool down the line. You've basically convinced me not to bother with fielding them as-is, which is unfortunate, but not horrific. I definitely want Phoenix Temple as my army. I like Phoenix Guard, I love phoenixes, and the Anointed, either mounted up or on foot, are very cool to me. I just also wish to take advantage of some of the diversity that CoS offers aside from that. The lists you've provided give me great insight towards what could be done, and though none are 100% to my tastes I definitely appreciate it. The second one, featuring 3 phoenixes and some guard and casters, is probably the closest, but it and the third both have merits. Emerald Lifeswarm looks fantastic as a piece to have. What I'm really looking to get out of this thread is less a specific build option and more simply helping myself to understand what build paths I have available. For example, starting around 500 points and building from there, if my starting force was the following: 1 Anointed 1 Battlemage 10 Phoenix Guard 10 Phoenix Guard It's 510 points I know, but in a casual escalation league not really being taken seriously until we build up more it's not a big deal. The question is, where could I go from there? What makes Phoenicium playable? Are there Sylvaneth units that are good enough to play Living City from time to time? If I'm running Phoenix Guard, do I want other varieties of short-range battlelines? These are the sorts of questions I'm really looking to answer, to get a feel for a new game.

I'm a new adopter of Age of Sigmar through my friends, some of which are established 40k players, and we've all bought in with an escalation league. Starting with 500 points, we'll be adding 250 points every so often until our hosts are a proper 2,000 point army. For myself, I have some old, unassembled Island of Blood High Elves, and wish to move in the direction of Phoenix Temple. I'm not entirely sure how Swifthawk Agents work, but even if the Island of Blood models aren't available to use as-is, I can always have them count as something else. With all that said, I'd like to know what options are available to me. I've already planned on having my force consist of a backbone of: - Phoenix Guard - Anointed-as-General - Some amount of Phoenixes, though I'd like to avoid going completely overboard. It should be noted that I have yet to make a purchase on the above. I understand that Phoenix Temple itself is a rather limited group, but as Cities of Sigmar I'll be able to pick an Allegiance as an archetype, and Phoenicium looks very on-theme and definitely seems appealing, the Living City also seems like an option, as I'm not a fantastic painter except for wood, and thus having a handful of Sylvaneth, possibly as elites, would be wonderful. The wealth of options I have available has me at a bit of a loss as to where to start.

Thanks very much for the welcome. I'll most certainly check out the Cities of Sigmar forums for build options. I also want to look into how to set up narrative campaigns, because the General's Handbook looks out of date and I've never really been a part of such a thing before and really want to see how they play out/structure them, so that I can get one going in my play group. I should have probably specified that's the only side of the box that I have. Even if I did, our local Skaven player be the one taking it off my hands. The Lumineth never really grabbed me the way I thought they really should have. I was always a fan of slightly more grounded armies, and short of them getting rules to bring in Phoenix Temple units I'm not particularly interested. I might take some of their units if they're allowed as allies, or play around with them, but I'd much rather have the options available to me in CoS to play as either Living City (because I also enjoy Dryads and Treelords) or spamming Phoenix Guard and Sisters/Shadow Warriors. Unless Lumineth have a subfaction dedicated expressly towards that, I'll probably just steal Eltharion once in a while.

I've been on the fringes of GW games for a long, long time now. A failed attempt into Fantasy with 2 different armies in middle school, a longtime interest in WHFB's setting, a love-hate relationship with the Grim Darkness™ of the far future, and now onboarding into Age of Sigmar through some old friends and our escalation league. I've been designated the de-facto chronicler of everyone's games, and later on responsible for the narrative campaigns that will hopefully unfold as we go from our 500 to 2000 point journeys. I have an old, unassembled box of Island of Blood, some square bases, a lot of old elf bits, a cursory understanding of the game, and eyes for everything Phoenicium and Phoenix Temple. With all that hard work ahead of me, I figured I had to start somewhere, and this forum came across my desk more than a couple of times. I look forward to figuring things out here.