Archibald

August 19, 2021

Hey,

i'm asking for a friend of mine, who plays the treefolk.

Why would you ever place 3 trees in a circle, when you can get 3x1 tree. It looks like so much more value with no downside at all? Any explanation would be awesome!

August 18, 2021

3 hours ago, boombyeyeah said:

In my experience BKs are only usefull with gutrot spume via deep strike. So far I have good results with MSU Plaguebearers and Drones.

Do you mean in 2.0 or in 3.0? And how many did you deepstrike with Spume? No other support? So you could play a daemonheavy list and just add Spume +X Blightkings for some variety and still be effective?

Until now it is Plaguebearer-anvil with Drone-Hammer for me. But most damage still came from One last gift. It was pure joy to see 20 LRL Wardens just melt away under all of my gifts.🤣

August 17, 2021

So there is no way to play Rotbringers competitively? Blightkings seem especially weak, because they can't combine their 6s to hit male D6 hits with the blades of putrification spell.

I mostly deal damage via the commandtrait "one last gift", everything else is just peanuts...

August 14, 2021

I only see daemonheavy list in the net. What happened to Rotbringers? Is Plaguebearer Spam outclassing the mortals?

August 14, 2021

According to the corerules, the player rolling the dice can choose which ability is triggered on a 6. And only one ability can be triggered. So RAW each ability of our opponents that triggers on 6, just stops "One last gift" from working. That is just stupid.

How do you think about that?

August 11, 2021

4 hours ago, Argonoch said:

Thoughts on this list, plan is to play on two flanks, mortals on one daemon on the other and have the flies be the hammer for where theyre needed. With the sloppity buffs the flies can kill a mega gargant in 2 turns especially with +1 attack from the GUO.

A bit sad I cant take endless gift but I feel like wanderers is necessary and Inneed the extra relic for the magic tome so HoD can cast blades. I could replace the untamed beasts and lifeswarm with a sorcerer to be able to cast blades instead but I feel the pregame move on untamed beasts is too vital. Will need to try it out and see how it goes.

Allegiance: Nurgle
- Host of Chaos: Munificent Wanderers
- Mortal Realm: Ghur
- Grand Strategy: Hold the Line
- Triumphs: Indomitable

Leaders
Great Unclean One (350)**
- General
- Bile Blade & Doomsday Bell
- Command Trait: One Last Gift
- Artefact: Mucktalon
- Lore of Virulence: Glorious Afflictions
Sloppity Bilepiper Herald of Nurgle (130)**
Harbinger of Decay (145)**
- Artefact: Arcane Tome (Universal Artefact)

Battleline
20 x Plaguebearers (220)*
- Reinforced x 1
10 x Plaguebearers (110)**
10 x Plaguebearers (110)**

Units
6 x Plague Drones (390)*
- Reinforced x 1
20 x Chaos Warriors (400)*
- Pair of Hand Weapons
- Mark of Chaos: Nurgle
- Reinforced x 1
9 x Untamed Beasts (70)

Endless Spells & Invocations
Emerald Lifeswarm (60)

Core Battalions
*Hunters of the Heartlands
**Warlord

Additional Enhancements
Artefact

Total: 1985 / 2000
Reinforced Units: 3 / 4
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 147
Drops: 9

I would also split the drones into 2x3. Buffed drones are a good hammer, but they have big bases, wigly coherency and they die...like flies do😂. With 2x3 you have a back up hammer, which i really missed last game.
What exactly is the task for the Chaos Warriors and tamed beasts? Never played or saw them until now.

50 minutes ago, Bibob45 said:

@Archibald

Played 2 games so far in the new edition with Munificent Wanderers. Sloppity Bilepiper has been the best unit both games, with all 3 songs being equally good on different situations.

I had the flail on the GUO, and maybe it was just bad rolls, but I was not impressed by the damage output of the flail and I wished I had the blade on a few casts. To me, most damage from the GUO came from One Last Gift, which was amazing. Mountain of Loathsome Flesh+Stomp also makes the GUO very good on the charge. In the games I played, Corpulent Mass + heroic recovery have been more than enough to keep him alive and I did not have the Endless gift, so maybe this is a bit overdefensive?

I did not try the Nurglings, but did try the Poxbringer and it was kind of bad for me. I agree with increasing plaguebearers unit size over poxbringer. On the other end, the MW output of the Beast of Nurgle has been really useful for me, the run and charge also.

The Glottkin not being a Daemon is a downside. It does not have the +5 Ward like the rest of the army and it does not benefit from Host of Chaos abilities and buffs like Sloppity. On the plus side it is a hero monster, it has access to different spell lores, and the model is awesome. Not a bad warscroll either, i just wished it had more synergies with the list.

Poxbringer was only good for holding an objective, but nothing else. First candidate to be kicked out of the list.

My GUO definitely needed the endless gift. He held a unit of 6 fully buffed kurnoth Hunters for 3 turns until my GUO went down by shooting from the depressed treegirl (20 attacks damn...). The bell on the GUO is obligatory. But against any Buffed magic the bileblade only made things worse for my GUO. No spell went through (obviously bad dicerolling was involved).

August 11, 2021

Can you use the Bileblade multiple times for one cast to be able to get +2, +3,...?

August 11, 2021

This Thread seems to be gone in hibernation mode...

How are you guys doing with 3.0? Tried out blightkings again? Are only daemons viable? Is munificent wanderers obligatory? Do you have some interesting lists?

I am painting my next 500p atm for a 1k5 list. Played my first game of Nurgle against lumineth and made a lot if stupid mistakes regarding priorisation, but in the end won with a 3 points lead.
MVP was Sloppity Bilepiper who only got 2 wounds by a treelord ancient and then kept on to hold his ground. GUO was truely discustingly resilient but the Bileblade was useless against his warsong with the roll 3 dice choose two for magic stuff. I think that i will exchange the blade for the flail so the GUO can kill at least something. Plaguebearers fell like flies against Kurnoth Hunters. Nurglings and Beast of Nurgle were meh...

My list:

Allegiance: Nurgle
- Host of Chaos: Munificent Wanderers
- Grand Strategy: Hold the Line
- Triumphs:

Leaders
Great Unclean One (350)*
- General
- Plague Flail & Doomsday Bell
- Command Trait: One Last Gift
- Artefact: The Endless Gift
- Lore of Virulence: Favoured Poxes
Sloppity Bilepiper Herald of Nurgle (130)*
Spoilpox Scrivener Herald of Nurgle (125)*
Poxbringer Herald of Nurgle(135)
- Artefact: Mucktalon
- Lore of Virulence: Glorious Afflictions

Battleline
20 x Plaguebearers (220)**
- Reinforced x 1
10 x Plaguebearers (110)**

Units
3 x Plague Drones (195)**
3 x Nurglings (90)*
1 x Beasts of Nurgle (125)*

Core Battalions
*Warlord
**Hunters of the Heartlands

Additional Enhancements
Artefact

Total: 1480 / 2000
Reinforced Units: 1 / 4
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 96
Drops: 9

I will be exchanging the Poxbringer to expand the second Plaguebearer unit up to 20 and maybe Swapping out Nurglings and Beast for a second Drone unit for more damage?

My way to 2k will be the Glottkin (saw a cool battlereport ob youtube with him. Seemed awesome) and 10 more Plaguebearers. What do you think?

August 11, 2021

2 hours ago, Obeisance said:

And that's my Deathriders done. Boom.

Burning Head, Nagash and Harbingers to go.

I'm currently learning to play this list for a team event in a couple months.

Got a game tonight Lumeneth, game tomorrow night vs Seraphon.

You guys think the Burning Head/Shrieker are 100% necessary? I could take an extra unit..

I think it could be dangerous to teleport Nagash without support. When he is gone, you have a problem. Saw a list on youtube that went all in with this strategy: Nagash, Arkhan, 3x Mortek, Crawler, Burning head. He teleported Nagash with 4 mystic shields (cast by Arkhan) on and several arkhan bolts. And even he seemed to struggle to keep him alive...

Beautiful ponies by the way.👍

August 9, 2021

5 hours ago, Hellberg said:

You need one more Battleline for 1500 points. I prefer Harvester instead of Crawler because of All Out Defence And the fact Crawler has no rend. Crawler still could work but it's worse than in 2.0 imo

Nope. In 3.0 you just need 2 battleline for games between 1000 and 1999 points.

August 4, 2021

3 hours ago, SunStorm said:

Hey, I'm dipping my toes into Nurgle and haven't yet got the battletomb, with the rumours of a new one I'm holding off for now.

I was however wondering how the rules work for taking other Nurgle marked units in a Maggotkin force in 3.0? Do I just use the ally rules from the 3.0 Rule book?

Check the latest FAQ for that.;)

July 29, 2021

Just wanted to show off my small steps towards my first 1k of Maggotkin.

Next on the painting table are a Scrivener and a Beast of Nurgle. After that i have 600p/600p painted. Next step will definitely be a GUO.😍
But after that i don't know how to fill the remaining points...

10 more Plaguebearers and the emerald lifeswarm?

Allegiance: Nurgle
- Host of Chaos: Munificent Wanderers
- Mortal Realm: Ghur
- Grand Strategy: Hold the Line
- Triumphs:

Leaders
Great Unclean One (350)
- General
- Bile Blade & Doomsday Bell
- Command Trait: One Last Gift
- Artefact: Mucktalon
- Lore of Virulence: Favoured Poxes
Sloppity Bilepiper Herald of Nurgle (130)

Battleline
20 x Plaguebearers (220) in Hunters of the Heartlands
- Reinforced x 1
10 x Plaguebearers (110) in Hunters of the Heartlands

Units
1 x Beasts of Nurgle (125) in Hunters of the Heartlands

Endless Spells & Invocations
Emerald Lifeswarm (60)

Total: 995 / 2000
Reinforced Units: 1 / 4
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 59

Alternatively 5 Blightkings. I often hear that Plaguebearers can't damage anything so Blightkings for the kill? What do you think? Blightkings also sound like more varienty.😄

Allegiance: Nurgle
- Host of Chaos: Munificent Wanderers
- Mortal Realm: Ghur
- Grand Strategy: Hold the Line
- Triumphs:

Leaders
Great Unclean One (350)
- General
- Bile Blade & Doomsday Bell
- Command Trait: One Last Gift
- Artefact: Mucktalon
- Lore of Virulence: Favoured Poxes
Sloppity Bilepiper Herald of Nurgle (130)

Battleline
20 x Plaguebearers (220) in Hunters of the Heartlands
- Reinforced x 1
5 x Putrid Blightkings (165) in Hunters of the Heartlands

Units
1 x Beasts of Nurgle (125) in Hunters of the Heartlands

Total: 990 / 1000
Reinforced Units: 1 / 2
Allies: 0 / 200
Wounds: 69

July 24, 2021

16 hours ago, Hannibal said:

The Everchosen Book offers 4 new subfactions of which one – Munificient Wanderers – is right now the most often seen subfaction in competetive lists.

So i would just need the everchosen book for the 4 subfactoon pages? I looked into the battletome today amd it seemed not so worthwile. Battalions are useless, many warscrolls got updated,...so ruleswise only the general faction rules, command abilities and artefacts are useful?

Because i am on a budget i have to decide what i can live without. The rules for munificient wanderers can be found on the internet, the app has the warscrolls and artefact/commandability wise only the witherstaff seems important. So i am thinking about skipping the books.

What do you think?

This will be my first list at 1k. Am very excited to try them out!

Allegiance: Nurgle
- Host of Chaos: Munificent Wanderers
- Mortal Realm: Ghur
- Grand Strategy: Hold the Line
- Triumphs:

Leaders
Great Unclean One (350) in Warlord
- General
- Bile Blade & Doomsday Bell
- Command Trait: One Last Gift
- Artefact: The Witherstave
- Lore of Virulence: Favoured Poxes
Sloppity Bilepiper Herald of Nurgle (130) in Warlord
- Artefact: Mucktalon
Spoilpox Scrivener Herald of Nurgle (125) in Warlord

Battleline
20 x Plaguebearers (220) in Warlord
- Reinforced x 1
10 x Plaguebearers (110) in Warlord

Endless Spells & Invocations
Emerald Lifeswarm (60)

Core Battalions
Warlord

Additional Enhancements
Artefact

Total: 995 / 2000
Reinforced Units: 1 / 4
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 56

July 23, 2021

Hey fellow maggots,

I had the opportunity to grab a BR: Nurgle box, so it seems that i am starting a new army project again.😄

My question is do i need the Everchosen book to start Maggotkin or is the battletome enough? I know that i just need the battletome to play, but what about cool and/or strong subfaction/artefacts etc.?

I know that the changes from BR: Teclis are essential, but the Updated warscrolls are available on the AoS app, so i don't think that i need that book.

It seems that Maggotkin are awesome on the defensive side (which i love!) and nearly don't have any offense and because of that are consider quite weak?

July 22, 2021

4 hours ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said:

Do you mean this bit from the FAQ?

Because that actually says the opposite: You roll a dice each time a model is slain within range of any (that is, one or more) Harvesters. So it means you only roll one dice per model no matter how many Harvesters are in range.

Thanks for the clarification!

Yesterday i finished my last OBR model (along with some endless spells). I declare the army complete...for now.😛

So now playtesting begins. I played a 2k game with Nagash against some treefolk yesterday and today i will be playing either Sylvaneth or LRL with some shark alies at 1k5.

List for today:

Allegiance: Ossiarch Bonereapers
- Legion: Mortis Praetorians
- Grand Strategy: Hold the Line
- Triumphs:

Leaders
Katakros, Mortarch of the Necropolis (470)
- General
Arkhan the Black, Mortarch of Sacrament (360)

Battleline
20 x Mortek Guard (280) in Hunters of the Heartlands
- Nadirite Blade and Shield
- 1x Soulcleaver Greatblades
- Reinforced x 1
10 x Mortek Guard (140) in Hunters of the Heartlands
- Nadirite Blade and Shield
- 1x Soulcleaver Greatblades
10 x Mortek Guard (140) in Hunters of the Heartlands
- Nadirite Blade and Shield
- 1x Soulcleaver Greatblades

Endless Spells & Invocations
Umbral Spellportal (70)
Emerald Lifeswarm (60)

Total: 1520 / 2000
Reinforced Units: 1 / 4
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 71

July 21, 2021

I just noticed in the FAQ that you are able to throw a dice for each of your harvesters if a model is slain within 3" of any harvester.

Could there be a strategy?

July 13, 2021

On 7/11/2021 at 11:02 PM, Lord Krungharr said:

If the Petrifex rule says they ignore Rend-1, or something like they treat Rend-1 as Rend-, then I don't think that's the same as them having a +1 to saves for that decreasing Rend stacking effect. Unless it's FAQd?

Seems like some other units with shields have that wording (some sort of Seraphon I ran into at some point).

The new Petrifex reduces the enemies rend by 1 (to a minimum of 0), so it actually is like +1 save (but only against high rend attacks of more than 1 rend).

July 9, 2021

I just finished painting my Nagash. So i want to field him of course.

What do you think of this Nagash-list?

Big boneman, some bodies, some speed, some monster, some predator.

Allegiance: Ossiarch Bonereapers
- Legion: Petrifex Elite
- Grand Strategy:
- Triumphs:

Leaders
Nagash, Supreme Lord of the Undead (970)
- General
- Universal Prayer Scripture: Heal

Battleline
20 x Mortek Guard (280)
- Nadirite Blade and Shield
- Reinforced x 1
20 x Mortek Guard (280)
- Nadirite Blade and Shield
- Reinforced x 1
5 x Kavalos Deathriders (190)
- Nadirite Blade and Shield

Behemoths
Gothizzar Harvester (215)

Endless Spells & Invocations
Nightmare Predator (65)

Total: 2000 / 2000
Reinforced Units: 2 / 4
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 81

July 7, 2021

Until my Arkhan arrives and i can start playing Petrifex, i will be trying this list.

On sunday i will be facing Sylvaneth in my first 3.0 battle.

I don't know much about them, but i expect high mobility. So i will be moving forward in a big blob around Katakros and try to break some wood.

Any tips or improvements?:)

Allegiance: Ossiarch Bonereapers
- Legion: Mortis Praetorians
- Grand Strategy:
- Triumphs:

Leaders
Katakros, Mortarch of the Necropolis (470) in Warlord
Mortisan Boneshaper (135) in Warlord
- Artefact: Artificer's Blade
- Lore of Mortisans: Drain Vitality
Mortisan Soulmason (140) in Warlord
- General
- Command Trait: Katakros' Chosen
- Artefact: Gothizzar Cartouche
- Lore of Mortisans: Empower Nadirite Weapons

Battleline
20 x Mortek Guard (280) in Hunters of the Heartlands
- Nadirite Blade and Shield
- 2x Soulcleaver Greatblades
- Reinforced x 1
20 x Mortek Guard (280) in Hunters of the Heartlands
- Nadirite Blade and Shield
- 2x Soulcleaver Greatblades
- Reinforced x 1
5 x Kavalos Deathriders (190)
- Nadirite Blade and Shield

Units
3 x Necropolis Stalkers (180) in Warlord

Behemoths
Gothizzar Harvester (215)
- Weapon: Soulcrusher Bludgeons

Endless Spells & Invocations
Nightmare Predator (65)

Additional Enhancements
Artefact

Total: 1955 / 2000
Reinforced Units: 2 / 4
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 108

July 7, 2021

1 hour ago, Obeisance said:

What if you built your list specifically to spam Arcane Shield?

Think it's viable as a list concept? I'm trying to find excuses to not borrow a Skaven army.

You only have 2 battleline units.

Is this a change from 3.0?

July 5, 2021

1 minute ago, baiardo said:

Seems a good list, I played deathriders a lot and I love them, for me is a great unit, always 10x1, now a little bit overcosted and with coherency rules...but with the righ support they are a good movement/punch/tank unit that you can resurrect with our heroes.

Thanks mate.

I am still in need of Arkhan, but i will order him tomorrow i think.
Rest of the army is nearly painted and ready for action.

Especially excited to try out the new Petrifex Elite.

July 5, 2021

3 hours ago, Obeisance said:

With a team tournament next month, I'm kinda stuck with OBR. I don't have time to learn a new army AND a new edition. I kinda have to try to make the most of it.

I've been brainstorming all day, trying to come up with some workable ideas.

a) Arkhan in Petrifex, what I'm presently playing. Basically dudespam, catapults and magic denial.

b) Katacross in Praetorians. Pre-AOS3 build with Katacross as a damage amp, catapults.

These were the lists I'm used to, but the more I think about it- the more I think I need to be more aggressive. Maybe two catapults isn't the answer. Especially considering I can't Duty them both anymore. Maybe one Catapult to assassinate characters and delete screens.

Petrifex Elite
- 1 drop, 2000pts
Arkhan
Leige Kavalos: Mighty Archaeossian, Godbone Armour, General
20 Morteks
20 Morteks
10 Morteks
10 Morteks
5 Deathriders
5 Deathriders
Crawler
Burning Head

More aggressive, more dudes, single drop, 10 drops to babsit objectives and screen? one Crawler to snipe characters and screen?

What's the best V3 list you can write?

Edit:

Arkhan
Leige Kavalos: Godbone Armour, Mighty Archaeossian
Soulreaper: Arcane Command
2*20 Morteks
2*5 Deathriders
Harbingers: Halbards
Crawler

One drop. 2000 on the nose. Soulreaper or Shrieker?

The Deathriders always underperformed for me, but i only play against Lumineth and Ironjaws, so no experience against other factions.

Crawlers never killed anything with the herosnipe, so i am not convinced of them either.

Harvester always worked well and with the new monster rules he should be even better.

My list to start 3.0 will look like this:

Petrifex Elite

Arkhan

Liege (Mighty Archaeosen, Godbone Armour)

20x Mortek (Swords)

5x Deathriders (Swords)

3x Necropolis Stalkers

1x Harvester (Bludgeons)

1x Crawler

1x Predator

1970 Points

July 3, 2021

15 hours ago, Obeisance said:

2-Drop Petrifex, 1990pts

Arkhan, Leige, Soulreaper
2x 20 Morteks
5 Deathriders
2x Crawler
Predator
Shrieker

2-Drop Petrifex, 2000pts

Arkhan, Leige, Soulreaper
2x 20 Morteks
5 Deathriders
Crawler
Harvester
Predator
Shrieker

where do the 10 points between the two lists difference come from? You just changed one Crawler (points) into a Harvester (215 points).

Is being lowdrop still a thing? I thought in 3.0 it doesn't matter any more?

Petrifex with Arkhan sounds quite interesting. I will be ordering my Arkhan soon to test it out.😊

Here are some more pictures of my progress. I'm on the finishing line, only Nagash, Nexus and 10 Mortek to go.

June 29, 2021

Still finishing my OBR for the third edition. Today some small magic and the Crawler.

Not much left to go. Just 2 Endless Spells, 10 Mortek, the Nexus and Nagash...but Stalkers are coming in the mail soon.😄

14 hours ago, Obeisance said:

So from what you've seen of the new edition (and yes there's a FAQ pending), what are you planning on running listwise?

Any interesting observations?

I was thinking about three blocks of Mortek each supported by a Harvester. We could at least try to play the monster game...Mortekstyle.😁

Crawler seems to be out of fashion soon, because of no rend. I think it will often come down to the decision Katakros with Praetorians for defensive play or Arkhan with Petrifex for agressive play.

What do you guys think of Stalkers? Still any good?