W1tchhunter
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Any thoughts on the new GHB? The positive Pete in me is thinking moulder with some wizards to give the rat ogors that sweet +d3 rend.
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Is there not a functional list that features all the troggoths 😛 like how would this fair?
- Army Faction: Gloomspite Gitz
- Subfaction: Glogg's Megamob
- Grand Strategy: Chasing the Moon
- Triumph: Indomitable
LEADERS
Dankhold Troggboss (200)
- Artefacts of Power: Speaky-skull Fetish
Dankhold Troggboss (200)*
- General
- Command Traits: Loonskin
- Artefacts of Power: Glowy Howzit
Dankhold Troggboss (200)**
- Artefacts of Power: Pet Gribbly
BATTLELINE
Fellwater Troggoths (320)
Fellwater Troggoths (160)
Rockgut Troggoths (320)
Rockgut Troggoths (160)
OTHER
Dankhold Troggoths (180)*
Dankhold Troggoths (180)**
TERRAIN
1 x Bad Moon Loonshrine (0)
CORE BATTALIONS
*Troggherd Heavies
**Troggherd Heavies
TOTAL POINTS: 1920/2000-
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After much much deliberation, looks like I'm starting a gitz army... Is there a fun troggoth list kicking around yet? Gonna have that be my starting point. Cheers!
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29 minutes ago, Skreech Verminking said:
Very!
but that shouldn’t keep you away from the idea.
I would still try it out.
rat ogres are currently fine, and may not actually be such a bad unit,
using stormfiends as conversions may also be a great idea for some lovely looking models.
if you’ve got some arm bits from some ogors, rat ogors, bigger monstrous infantry, you’r probably very likely going to be able to do some amazing conversion
No no, Hell-pits are the way to go, best unit in the book.....
😭😭😭😭😭
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On 2/28/2023 at 12:43 AM, Lord Krungharr said:
No Scuttletide?!?! Drop those Sporesplattas! Also I eagerly await your 8 legged Kragnos Conversion.
Give it a few games vs various armies and see how it goes with different missions. Spiderfang has some great tricks and can be surprisingly nasty if played well, but certainly not a point-n-click army. I think having Skraggrott is actually really good for a guaranteed Bad Moon effect if he's alive; so I'd keep him. Not sure if there's points but since you have Kragnos in there, maybe switch out the Skitterstrand to a Flinger? The big spider does the same, but you have the chance to gum someone up with the webs. Not sure if the points are there though...you could drop the Fungoid too, maybe net another unit of Spider Riders or something doing that?
Saw one at a tournament a few weeks ago, amazing
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Listening to the Gitz rules reveal and just sat here confused why Gitz and Dok get 4 up rallys and we don't
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8 minutes ago, Skreech Verminking said:
The reason they did that is probably to just say they updated the rat ogre warscroll, which in fact was just a part of 3 different mutation you could give them via the broken realms book.
sadly only one stayed and the rest got removed as it is with halve of the missing stuff removed from the new book.
Personally they didn’t care about the skaven and the battletome is sadly a good example for their laziness
I was under the wide eyed hopeful bunch when we only got one model for our battletome that GW was holding off updating the armies like skaven beasts and seraphon till the old world.
But with seraphon getting a massive refresh with there new book I've decided GW just hate skaven and BOC
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Just now, Skreech Verminking said:
Well…. Lets say this.
last time I used the shield I and my opponent forgot what it did😂.
well, hopefully I’ll see how good it is next time
Haha just seems like it would be a really good way to keep him alive, cause let's be honest they ain't great at surviving 😛
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5 minutes ago, Cosmicsheep said:
Because 1 priest is my general, he gets the +1 already and I usually start him next to a gnawhole.
and yeah, if I took the Warbringer I’d take ratcursed armour probably
Couldn't decide between that or the distraction shield 🤔
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2 hours ago, Cosmicsheep said:
I'd probably split the monks into MSU of 10. They die too quick and don't leave any behind to buff the censer bearers
And i'd maybe swap Thanquol for a Warbringer, and drop a priest for some more censer bearers or a screen of nightrunners
I do have another list with 3 ratling guns (cos that's how many i have) to utilise the new GC Aspect to give all 3 AoA
Is the second plague Priest not important for the great plagues? I feel like if you take a warbringer you should ditch the grpyh feather and put one of the verminus artefacts on him, they are all really good
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How does death frenzy work on heroes? When they fight do they fight on full bracket or lowest bracket?
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3 hours ago, Cosmicsheep said:
It went pretty well, a narrow defeat 17-18 against Slaves to Darkness. I would have won if not for some treacherous plague monks and a cowardly grey seer 🤣
He gave me first turn so i moved up my screens, death frenzy the stormvermin and pop the gutter runners out to try and snipe his chaos lord. He passesd most of the wounds to his chosen, but i killed a couple of them. He then gets to roll a dice to determine if he takes priority next turn. He gets the double turn and knowing this takes out my clanrat screens this turn, and starts on my stormvermin and monks at the start of turn 2. My deathmaster uses shadow magnet trinket to strike first at his varanguard closely follwed by his sworn bodyguards the stormvermin. One horseman is left on 2 wounds. He choses to target the deathmaster so as not to trigger death frenzy. His chaos lord takes out a few monks and i stupidly remove the ones which allow his chosen to pile into (and kill most of) the censer bearers. d'oh! Meanwhile Archaon is tied up with a unit of gutter runners. Thanquol and the priests are sat back watching the death and destruction and the grey seer is holding the flank objective (we played Position over Power) I'm way ahead in points by this point. I use the new heroic actions to kill the last varanguard in the hero phase but my next mistake was skitterleaping the grey seer to his objective (having not read the battleplan properly and losing an extra VP by sitting on the flank obj) Archon finishes of the deathmaster and stormvermin, the chaos lord gets infected by the rednaw plague and attacks his own chosen! Thanquol takes out the untamed beasts on the other flank thanks to his skateboard. Eventually Thanquol and Archon meet and i get a double turn going into round 5. Thanquol is able to cast madness at the bottom of turn 4 AND the top of round 5 making Archaon beat himself to death. Very satisfying. In the end i fail my grand strategy and have no battle tactics i can complete in turn 5. A fun game and one i could have won if i'd not made those little mistakes.
Cheers for that! Anything you'd change with the list? I'm missing a few things but definitely want to try it out soon!
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7 minutes ago, Cosmicsheep said:
If I HAD to, I’d swap him (and lauchon) for the Warbringer and Cogs
Okay cool let us know how it goes! Looking forward to hearing about it. I love the mix of Clans
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35 minutes ago, Cosmicsheep said:
Thanquol (Death frenzy)
Deathmaster (shadow magnet trinket / fuelled by Ghurish rage) **
Grey Seer (Skitterleap) *
Plague priest (General / Master of rot & ruin / Gryph feather charm / Filth filth) *
Plague priest (Rabid rabid) *
20 clanrats
20 clanrats
30 stormvermin **
20 plague monks
5 censer bearers ***
5 gutter runners ***
5 gutter runners ***
lauchon
* command entourage - magnificent
** Galletian command
*** sharpshooters
Gotta see that's a beautiful mash up of Clans
What would you swap out for Thanquol if you had to?
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Just now, Cosmicsheep said:
I think we were just so underwhelmed by the latest tome that we quickly ran out of things to discuss. I’m hoping the new GHB will spawn some discussions and theory crafting. I’m having my first game of the new GHB tomorrow, so trying out a few ideas (including the deathmaster/stormvermin/strike-first combo) 😀
Whats your list for that?
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1 hour ago, Skreech Verminking said:
Uff that’s a hard one…..
I think if you’re trying to win as many games as possible, you’ll probably stick with 4 units of 10 plague censer bearers, Thanqoul and at least 3 priest units.
after that you’ll just want to spam min size plague censer bearers.
If you’re looking for some fun… I would suggest to you to take whatever you want to play.
often mixing some stuff up may be worth at least for the fun aspect.
As for winning with luck, I guess you could try the list some random skavenplayer seemed to have made it to work.
which would be a furnace a screaming bell,
2x30 plague monks and the rest clanrats I think
I'm enjoying the reputation at tournaments as the skaven Player with the wild lists so definitely want more fun than competitive
This is one I came up with
- Army Faction: Skaven
- Grand Strategy: Arch-corruptors of the Mortal Realms
- Triumph: Indomitable
LEADERS
Plague Priest On Plague Furnace (300)*
- General
- Command Traits: Master of Rot and Ruin
- Prayers: Rabid-rabid!
Plague Priest (100)*
- Prayers: Filth-filth!
Plague Priest (100)*
- Artefacts of Power: Blistrevous, the Living Cyst
- Prayers: Rabid-rabid!
Plague Priest (100)***
- Prayers: Filth-filth!
Verminlord Corruptor (350)***
- Artefacts of Power: Blade of Corruption
- Spells: Flaming Weapon
BATTLELINE
Plague Censer Bearers (90)***
Plague Censer Bearers (90)***
Plague Censer Bearers (90)***
ARTILLERY
Plagueclaw (120)***
OTHER
Plague Monks (180)**
- Bringer-of-the-Word
- Pair of Foetid Blades
- 2 x Standard Bearer
- 2 x Plague Harbingers
Plague Monks (180)**
- Bringer-of-the-Word
- Pair of Foetid Blades
- 2 x Standard Bearer
- 2 x Plague Harbingers
Plague Monks (180)**
- Bringer-of-the-Word
- Pair of Foetid Blades
- 2 x Plague Harbingers
- 2 x Standard Bearer
Rat Swarms (60)***
TERRAIN
1 x Gnawhole (0)
CORE BATTALIONS
*Command Entourage
- Magnificent**Bounty Hunters
***Battle Regiment
TOTAL POINTS: 1940/2000
Ignore the bounty Hunters made it a few weeks ago.
There is an extra 60 points also
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9 minutes ago, Skreech Verminking said:
I’m amazed how quiet it got here.
even the skaven discort channels seems pretty quiet.
what happened.
is there nothing left to discuss about the skaven?
Make me a fun looking pestilence list
that's my next clan I'm trying after the Gargant Moulder list.
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6 minutes ago, Skreech Verminking said:
Your opponent had some amazing luck, with his wheel of doom,
considering that it did 14 wounds to your hell pit and almost killed your unit of rat ogres with just shooting
Sorry the doom flayer* got the hellpit, the doomwheel got the ogors.
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1 hour ago, Skreech Verminking said:
Congrats to that person as well then, if he sees this message.
I’m happy that didn’t just go for a stormfiends mostly list (although still having 6 fiends)
I’m amazed that he went with at least a doomwheel and took 2 doom flayers with him, yet I am a bit disappointed on the lack of rattling gun weapon teams in his army
The doom wheel took my Toughened sinews hellpit to 2 wounds in one round of combat! And that was me charging him haha. Doom wheel took one of my rat ogor units to one model just with the shooting also. They both felt pretty powerful on the receiving end 😛
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37 minutes ago, Skreech Verminking said:
Firstly, I really love the look of your army.
it kinda screams out what it means to start a skaven army. (Having a 3d printer or a fried that can do that)
secondly yeah slryre is pretty strong.
but even they have units that perform utterly better then others.
i guessing your skryre players used mostly stormfiends and 1-3 cannons?
Thanks!
Off the top of my head his list was
Arch Warlock
Engineer
Bombadier
2x Acoylted
2x Warp lightning cannons
1 x 6 Stormfiends
2x Jezzails
2x Doom Flayer
1x Doomwheel
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So my day two was yesterday.
I beat the dread saurian dude (he 'won' the wooden spoon at the event for coming dead last so not sure how good I should feel about that one :P)
My final game was against Skyre! So some skaven on skaven violence, but my god it was a massacre haha. Even with all three of my hell pits reviving and both units of rat ogors i got utterly mowed down. It was a funny game just cause of me bringing the stuff back for him to kill again, but yeah Skyre where definitely the superior clan here for sure.
Got 120 points spare when next edition hits due to the point decrease but not sure what to add 🤔
The list is truly terrible and hellpits are absolutely dreadful, BUT it was really fun to play so I shan't stop trying with it.
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8 minutes ago, Skreech Verminking said:
Lets start with this.
I would consider you one of the maddest rats in this chat.
and as the skreech Verminking, I can only say this much, I am proud of you playing three whole hell pits.
you are clearly a master of moulder.
secondly, yeah… I’m sorry for your bad rolls, and while this may hurt to hear, clan moulder isn’t doing great currently
Gosh you make me blush
I meant my rolls have been really good on the three ups haha that's the worst part
even with the extra bodies I've still gotten destroyed. Everyone's enjoyed playing the list though which is what matters!
My next list will have a converted Rat Gargant in it
Playing a very exciting seraphon list tomorrow, it has a dread saurian in it
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Well today has not gone great
lost all two out of three games, 2 against gargants and one against ogors with 3 leadbelchers. The gargant I beat was a super new player and I won all the priority rolls.
The ogor match i lost all three hell pits to the cannons turn one T.T
Worst thing is, everyone who's beaten me has probably killed an extra 1500 points worth of models cause I've rolled ****** hot on my more more beasts
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18 minutes ago, Skreech Verminking said:
Well unfairly said, the hell pit isn’t the only
model in need if a warscroll update in the book.
in my opinion, let us do the job that gws writer are apparently not able to do, I’m with you there !
Did you ever get a response regarding the redmaw?
AoS 2 - Skaventide Discussion
in Skaven
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Have it on very good authority we are the second army in the next edition. Rat Ogors and Stormvermin remakes will be in it.