Borsuk

You're my idol. Can you share some list? How many dracoths and stardrakes you own? How much kidney costs, because I feel like I need to sell one to make it possible.

But I'd like to see viable extremis chamber list, with Drakesworn Templar, dracothian guard and celestant on dragon. Or better yet dracothian guard lead by Vandus Hammerhand. Too bad that they're so pricy (how in the world Vandus is worth 280 points?) both by terms of points and cash. It would be welcome change if two dracoths wouldn't be so expensive, but this would never happened unfortunately.

Yeah, please do that. Palladors could be conditional battleline with aquilor as general. I always dreamed about having big cavalry, lead by aquilor. That would be neat.

Maybe if they would've cost as much as Aetherwings, they could've become great screen. Well, maybe 60 points, they have armor save after all

Don't forget they have two wounds each and slightly worse special weapons than Liberators and paladins combined. Prosecutors are real MVP

Or kharadron overlords. I feel like whole idea of creating dedicated terrain pieces, which are part of yours Allegiance ability can be summarized as money altar. No wonder that chaos destroyed old world.

Sorry, my bad. Aos setting is indeed grimdark. I guess that would be fitting terrain piece for SCE.

I agree with Yondaime. Od course it is tempting to be the best army, but I personally aim to be on par with newer releases. For example NH (which is not in the best spot as well) have the same deep strike like ours, but on 10+ charge automatically attacks. Retributors on paper looks good, but in reality they never was game changer for me. 1 protector can technically kill frost lord, but it's too gimmicky. SCE is cool army, with cool lore and cool models. I just like that their rules would be on par with lore, especially older, forgotten units. It's really no fun to play my vanguards or paladins against Tzeentch and be obliterated in second turn, or get stuck in fight with 20 pink horrors for whole battle. I know, I can play other army, or better list, but then what is the purpose for the most of SCE range? Don't get me wrong. I'm not ranting, I will play them no matter what. It would be nice to have some more fun. Isn't it what is all about?

Does it make us the most realistic army in aos?

Yeah. We are the storm incarnate, we will strike with all our might and inflict one wound

Well, maybe it's not competitive, but sounds fun. Kinda. I guess. 😛

Yeah, I'll take any improvement for SCE. Let's start with point reduction, and then make us demigods we supposed to be with new battletome.

Not necessarily. For instance, with winter update KO got some points lowering and next month they got new battletome. GHB was assembled and printed long ago. Don't lose hope

Count me in. i really hope GW will make our life just a little bit easier. Are you thinking they will really rise tax for any of our units? It’s not like they’re competitive or something.

Warhammer community page. There are no point values, just tease, but man I hope it will be more than 5 points.

I’ve read new GHB2020 preview. Finally, liberators will be cheaper. I’m wondering how much. Sigmar be praised.

Man, I fell like “fun platform” should be official term for flying thunderers.

Hm, screening thunderers with gunhaulers sounds interesting. I usually put them inside the ship and create shooting platform. I will check it out.

You just reminded me of my poor SCE. Let us know how double escort wing works. I’m exited about 20 thuderers, I guess they’re my favourite KO unit. What load out you take for them? I prefer full rifle, because it seem most reliable for me.

Yeah, this one looks pretty pathetic, but nothing is impossible for opportunistic privateers. Am I right?

Well, technically you can do it, but I guess this is not what you’re aiming for. It doesn’t look very strong. Allegiance: Kharadron Overlords- Sky Port: Barak UrbazLeadersEndrinmaster with Dirigible Suit (220)- GeneralBattleline3 x Endrinriggers (100)1 x Grundstok Gunhauler (150)3 x Skywardens (100)1 x Grundstok Gunhauler (150)1 x Grundstok Gunhauler (150)Units5 x Grundstok Thunderers (120)BehemothsArkanaut Frigate (250)BattalionsIntrepid Prospectors (110)Grundstok Escort Wing (140)Total: 1490 / 2000Extra Command Points: 2Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 67

I guess that is because they are poster boys, and usually first army ppl start collecting. Even now SE can be intimidating to the new players.

Maybe try something like that: Allegiance: Kharadron Overlords- Sky Port: Barak ZilfinLeadersEndrinmaster with Endrinharness (100)- General- Command Trait: Great Tinkerer - Artefact: Staff of Ocular Optimisation Aether-Khemist (90)Battleline10 x Arkanaut Company (90)- 1x Skypikes- 1x Light Skyhooks- 1x Aethermatic Volley GunsArkanaut Frigate (250)- Main Gun: Heavy Sky Cannon- Great Endrinworks: Prudency ChutesUnits5 x Grundstok Thunderers (120)1 x Grundstok Gunhauler (150)- Main Gun: Sky Cannon- Great Endrinworks: Coalbeard's Collapsible Compartments3 x Endrinriggers (100)3 x Endrinriggers (100)Total: 1000 Wounds: 67 it is pretty flexible, you can change load out on your units to match your play style, put whoever you want into both ships, and it’s pretty easy to build around start collecting box.

So they would be regular paladins then?

Well, all of us wait for new tome, and I bet it’s gonna be awesome. Almost all new releases are great. Tbh, I hope they will not open new chamber, because that means they most certainly do nothing to improve older units. Man, I’d love to be able to do something with my vanguards and paladins.