[AoS 2 - Sylvaneth Discussion]

Hello, have some sylvaneth minis, like bunch of driads, TLA, 6 scythe kurnoths  and looncurse half of sylvaneth. can you help me complete army ? dont know that is competitve for sylvaneths now

[AoS 2 - Gloomspite Gitz Discussion]

A bit sad after GHB 2020 restriction on endless spells. im really plan to make a endless spell spam grots. now dont know that to build. any ideas on semi competitive grots? 

[AoS 2 - Ogor Mawtribe Discussion]

Hello, is ogor army builded on foot good or not after GHB 2020? 

[AoS 2 - Ossiarch Bonereapers Discussion]

Hello. With PE changes how Nagash list would looks like the best? im want to play with Nagash,may be not super competitive, but im start collecting OB  for Nagash.

[AoS 2 - Ossiarch Bonereapers Discussion]

especcialy interest in Nagsh list. im building it, but for now dont know how make better Nagash list

[AoS 2 - Ossiarch Bonereapers Discussion]

that Nagash list would works better now? 60 guards + harvester or kavalos + raiders? 

[AoS 2 - Ossiarch Bonereapers Discussion]

1 minute ago, Overread said:

Nagash was and still is a magical powerhouse before he ever joined the Ossiarchs. So he's still more than viable.

but looks like ot is not a tourney list for now. OBR still good, but nagash was struggle against ranged armies( that dominate meta now) and now struggle even more. Im thinking may be pony based list would works better with Nagash

[AoS 2 - Ossiarch Bonereapers Discussion]

2 hours ago, Greasygeek said:

So whats the verdict on Nagash lists now. Are they gone?

Also interesting in Nagash now, im just started collect Nagash + boneshaper + harvester + 60 mortek guard list, now doubt is it usefull anymore(

[AoS 2 - Ossiarch Bonereapers Discussion]

Hello, im have Nagash and planing to get some OB models for making new army( thinking about get 60 guard + harvester + boneshaper)
But how Nagash work in this lists? is he  charge enemy(with 2+ reroll save and healing) or stay behind, that spells beter to cast or better spam bolts? 

[Warcry - Ogors Discussion]

Hello, in buyed feast and bones box, can you advice me how better build my models to make most of good variation/ good rosters for ogors?

[AoS 2 - Disciples of Tzeentch Discussion]

3 minutes ago, Dreadmund said:

Changeling is great for a few reasons. He can cast 2 spells and only costs 120 points which is nice and cheap. Even if he doesn't have his own warscroll spell, he can cast arcane bolt/mystic shield, you can give him a Lore Spell and he can use endless spells. I find he works really well as a support piece for a unit of horrors. He gives them -1 to be hit with his Locus of Change aura, he can use his ability to give enemy units -1 to hit, he can cast fold reality, mystic shield and emerald lifeswarm and he can be the hero you need nearby to use the Inspiring presence command ability. A changeling and 10 Pink horrors are a nightmare to clear off an objective for many factions. Also he fits in changehost, which has significant value in itself.

You don't need to use his ability to teleport round 1, but your opponent does need to take him into account when they deploy their army, which gives them a chance to make a mistake. Mistakes during deployment can cost people games. If you do use his ability, you can don't have to use him offensively. He can go to support a unit or horrors of flamers to buff their reliance after you changehost teleport them in. And if you opponent makes stupid mistake like leaving an important hero or an artillery piece undefended, you then have the option to exploit that. You can tag something like a mortek crawler to shut down their shooting for a round or two, assassinate an enemy hero with some destiny dice attacks, or just put a nuisance in your opponent's territory that they have to deal with instead of playing the objectives. He gives you options, and gives your opponent lots of opportunities to make mistakes. For 120 points, he's a steal in my opinion.

thanks, would try him on next tourney. im give him an Treason for even more -1 to hit. Would play him defencely, with some horrors

[AoS 2 - Disciples of Tzeentch Discussion]

How properly use the Changeling? In new codex he resigned, so im dont know how abuse him now - if im place him in op territory, he mow can be targeted and charged. If not, is he worth?

[AoS 2 - Disciples of Tzeentch Discussion]

Is umbral spellportal is a must have for changehost lists?

[AoS 2 - Disciples of Tzeentch Discussion]

20 hours ago, Forrix said:

Looks pretty good overall. I wouldn't worry about more flamers. You want board presence. I'm sure there's ways to tweak it more (Gaunt Summoners are always amazing if there's a way to squeeze one in somehow) but I'd just play a couple games with that then take it from there.

im try to optimize more and have two lists im now thinking about

first - try to put gemenids and fatemaster without two many loses. 3x3 flamers, isnt critical to have 6-3?

Spoiler

Leaders
Fatemaster (120)
Lord of Change (380)
Fluxmaster, Herald of Tzeentch on Disc (130)
The Changeling (120)

Battleline
10 x Pink Horrors of Tzeentch (200)
10 x Pink Horrors of Tzeentch (200)

Units
1 x Exalted Flamers of Tzeentch (100)
3 x Flamers of Tzeentch (120)
3 x Flamers of Tzeentch (120)
3 x Flamers of Tzeentch (120)

Battalions
Changehost (180)

Endless Spells / Terrain / CPs
Geminids of Uhl-Gysh (60)
Soulsnare Shackles (40)
Umbral Spellportal (70)
Prismatic Palisade (30)

Total: 1990 / 2000

second - like it more. Gaunt Summoner, Daemonrift, Arcane Suggesion. many more -1 to hit, more control on table. same firepower, more overall wounds caouse 20 brims. but 3 deploy choice and feel scary about survivability of gaunt on first turn

Spoiler

Leaders
Fatemaster (120)
Lord of Change (380)
The Changeling (120)
Gaunt Summoner of Tzeentch (240)

Battleline
10 x Pink Horrors of Tzeentch (200)
3 x Flamers of Tzeentch (120)
3 x Flamers of Tzeentch (120)
3 x Flamers of Tzeentch (120)

Units
1 x Exalted Flamers of Tzeentch (100)
10 x Brimstone Horrors of Tzeentch (60)
10 x Brimstone Horrors of Tzeentch (60)

Battalions
Changehost (180)

Endless Spells / Terrain / CPs
Geminids of Uhl-Gysh (60)
Umbral Spellportal (70)
Darkfire Daemonrift (50)

 

[AoS 2 - Disciples of Tzeentch Discussion]

33 minutes ago, Forrix said:

Looks pretty good overall. I wouldn't worry about more flamers. You want board presence. I'm sure there's ways to tweak it more (Gaunt Summoners are always amazing if there's a way to squeeze one in somehow) but I'd just play a couple games with that then take it from there.

Also im havent gaunt on disk. Without its too slow

[AoS 2 - Disciples of Tzeentch Discussion]

1 minute ago, Forrix said:

Looks pretty good overall. I wouldn't worry about more flamers. You want board presence. I'm sure there's ways to tweak it more (Gaunt Summoners are always amazing if there's a way to squeeze one in somehow) but I'd just play a couple games with that then take it from there.

Tourney next weekend, and im haven't time to test(

[AoS 2 - Disciples of Tzeentch Discussion]

Spoiler

Leaders
Lord of Change (380)
Fatemaster (120)
Fluxmaster, Herald of Tzeentch on Disc (130)
The Blue Scribes (120)

Battleline
10 x Pink Horrors of Tzeentch (200)
10 x Pink Horrors of Tzeentch (200)
6 x Flamers of Tzeentch (240)
3 x Flamers of Tzeentch (120)

Units
1 x Exalted Flamers of Tzeentch (100)
10 x Brimstone Horrors of Tzeentch (60)

Battalions
Changehost (180)

Endless Spells / Terrain / CPs
Geminids of Uhl-Gysh (60)
Umbral Spellportal (70)
Suffocating Gravetide (20)

im try to fit Fatemaster, 2 mobile heroes for Locus and casting endlesses, Geminid and 9 flames(want 12, but cant fit without dropping hero)

that do you think?

[AoS 2 - Disciples of Tzeentch Discussion]

28 minutes ago, Forrix said:

I haven't ran him yet since I hate the model and haven't built a proxy but I think he's great for turning Flamers into character snipers. Even with an Exalted flamer you're hitting characters on a 4+ base due to look out sir. Being able to reroll that is a significant bonus. It makes a unit of 3 flamers able to very reliably kill a 5 wound 4+ save hero.

Ok, im try to fit 12 flamer list with fatemaster and geminids, but can make a cut. Can you help me?

[AoS 2 - Disciples of Tzeentch Discussion]

Yeah, im ise my ahriman too. Im looking at fatemaster in flamer changehost lists

[AoS 2 - Disciples of Tzeentch Discussion]

How good fatemaster is? Im try to make roster, but cant fit that im want in one list. He is not get locus of sorcery, not share it with other units. Flamers mostly hit on 2+. Also he spend a CP

 

 

[AoS 2 - Disciples of Tzeentch Discussion]

54 minutes ago, Dreadmund said:

I definitely think Lifeswarm is worth it for Tzeentch. In other armies it's a bit too steep, but used on horrors it's bringing back between 5 and 15 wounds per turn!It might also allow you to bring back a banner, or raise the number of pink horrors back up to 10 so you can cast their spell.  I wouldn't take it unless your list has horrors in it.

im thinking drop a quicksilver swords and add some other stuff. in our community only one player use Tzeentch so im think that quicksilvers is not needed. but that? have you any idea? 

[AoS 2 - Disciples of Tzeentch Discussion]

Is emerald lifeswarm woth it without playing with realms? found this list on Honest wargamer form SS20
 

Spoiler

Allegiance: Tzeentch
Change Coven: Eternal Conflaguration

Leaders
Lord of Change (380)
- General- Command Trait: Coruscating Flames
- Artefact: Shroud of Warpflame
- Lore of Change: Bolt of Tzeentch

Fluxmaster, Herald of Tzeentch on Disc (130)
- Artefact: Aura of Mutability
- Lore of Change: Treason of Tzeentch

The Blue Scribes (120)
- Lore of Change: Tzeentch's Firestorm

Changecaster, Herald of Tzeentch (110)
- Lore of Change: Unchecked Mutation

Battleline
10 x Pink Horrors of Tzeentch (200)
10 x Pink Horrors of Tzeentch (200)
6 x Flamers of Tzeentch (240)
3 x Flamers of Tzeentch (120)

Units
1 x Exalted Flamers of Tzeentch (100)

Battalions
Changehost (180)

Endless Spells / Terrain / CPs
Umbral Spellportal (70)
Aethervoid Pendulum (50)
Emerald Lifeswarm (50)
Quicksilver Swords (30)

Total: 1980 / 2000=

Interest is lifeswarm worth it and is Quicksilver swords are choice to counter other Tzeentch players or not

[AoS 2 - Disciples of Tzeentch Discussion]

In a world

[AoS 2 - Disciples of Tzeentch Discussion]

4 hours ago, Tommm said:

You just need to look in the right places. Tzeentch are doing excellent.

 

Hm, have some lists. Interesting how lists looks like

[AoS 2 - Disciples of Tzeentch Discussion]

After nerfing changehost im dont saw tzeentch list in top 3 on tourneys. Is this hard nerf or people just now learn how counter tzeench and he's not OP anymore?