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2 minutes ago, spenson said:
Note that says that burning skies and fireball are both available for the other army if the battle is played in Aqshy: Still there if they don't update the compendium
Note how it's listed as an army ability in the compendium. As written nothing will change, you just get an additional effect.
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3 hours ago, spenson said:
The quote in my previous message explicitly states that "Burning Skies and Fireball are available to other armies if the battle is taking place in Aqshy". Which won't be the case anymore in the new GHB.
Why not? As written. It's still tied to an army ability so I'm having a hard time seeing what the problem is.
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20 minutes ago, spenson said:
I meant that the compendium has a designe's note:
Designer’s Note: Burning Skies
and Fireball are available to other
armies if the battle is taking place in
Aqshy (see the Realm of Battle rules
in the Warhammer Age of Sigmar
Core Book). They are always used by
Legion of Azgorh armies, to reflect
how closely bound the Legion is to
their home realm.Do you think they'll update this section in the compendium or they'll keep it as is even if it doesn't make sense anymore?
LoA is the only army that didn't get any change at all last year and they didn't give any indication that it won't be the same this year.
Why wouldn't it make sense? Now Burning Skies will just be an army ability.
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1 hour ago, IrishCarBomb said:
But with the molds made they could just cast orders as they come in. And what are they currently doing with the molds anyway? - just thousands of dollars worth of paperweights.
As you said though, the fact that they even took a long break over this Covid period and have brought back the LoA models for sale must demonstrate they sell them somewhat regularly.
They could do that, but they don't. They could also sell the models for a reasonable price, but they don't. They're not interested in long term profits.
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1 hour ago, IrishCarBomb said:
True, why would they cease making them if the molds are already made? Though they did remove many of the Tamurkhan models that were once available. As long as they keep them in the fold and update their rules every few years I'll be happy.
Because they only keep what's profitable, more than half the Forge range was already removed, so I don't see why these would stay if they're not selling.
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46 minutes ago, Lord Krungharr said:
Even if Azgorh doesn't get any updates, does that mean they won't be Matched Play legit?
I haven't yet tried them out but I think a decent Cities of Sigmar force could be done with them, and Slaves to Darkness perhaps (maybe do them as Marauders and Iron Golems with almost all those duardin ones).
In the mean time I'm looking forward to trying out my K'daai Fireborn again, even though the allied Sorcerer Lord can't buff them anymore. Maybe Lifeswarm behind them would be good. I like that allied Blue Scribes though for any Endless Spell casting.
Not sure if we're allowed to post things for sale or trade up here, but I'm thinning out my Azgorh a little bit (cuz I bought into Epic and 30k Iron Warriors).
I have a kitbashed Magma Cannon, an old metal Chaos Dwarf Whirlwind and a Tenderizer (both used as Skullcracker Engines), and 3 of the original Bull Centaur Renders. If anyone has a Land Raider(s), Contemptor Dreadnought (s), Epic Vindicators/Basilisks/Reaver or Warlord Titan, let me know or make me an offer(s)!
If they're not included in the next General's Handbook then they're no longer legit. They're safe until the next GH comes out.
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2 hours ago, IrishCarBomb said:
So I am fairly new to AoS and wanting to get into LoA. I read a lot of info. on this forum and my only real concern is if this army will be available for the future. That being said, I see that many of you believe it will be viable, but my question is why would Forgeworld not fix the issue with the Deathshrieker model and get them back up for sale if they planned to continue with the army? I would find it hard to believe there was a mold issue with this too, as with the skullcracker which I understand can be very costly to recreate.
Forge World doesn't make new molds for products that aren't selling. That's why I'm not nearly as hopeful as other people here, I don't think they're going to stick around, and I'm sure they won't get an update.
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5 hours ago, NJohansson said:
Depending on which manufacturer/unit. Don’t have any of my own at hand - but something along these lines usually works very good (IMHO):
Like I said, they mess with the templates, and if we assume you're using 25mm round bases against 20mm square bases, a front rank of 5 would be have contact with 8 square base models. If you're playing 8th edition and horde them up then not only would it be very wide, but 6 models in your unit would not be able to attack at all, giving you 24 attacks (assuming you have one attack per model) compared to the 30 the opponent will get.
This only gets worse as you go up in base size.
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3 minutes ago, NJohansson said:
Not arguing, just don’t forget that there are very good movement trays (non GW unfortunately) designed to be used for round bases that allows for unit formations aka Fantasy. Makes the regiments look really good and let’s you use round bases if you want.
They do bloat up the unit sizes by a considerable amount, which messes with all three templates and gives you a substantial disadvantage in close combat.
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Just now, paera said:
Cheers! On the contrary; would i ever regret putting them on round ones?
Yes, there's quite a few people who still play Fantasy and putting them on round bases would make that game much harder to play. AoS on the other hand isn't bothered by square bases, and this is the reason I stick to squares.
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3 hours ago, Latty said:
So I had a thought about LoA and realm rules; say you play a game in Aqshy and roll the burning skies realmscape, how would that interact with the burning skies that we have as a battle trait? Would ours overrule the realm rules? Would Draz'hoath and K'daai be subject to the rule? Would they stack, making the opponent take the roll twice? Thoughts?
The same rule doesn't stack, so it would still only apply once.
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56 minutes ago, TheR00zle said:
Sounds reasonable, though maybe you replace half the fireglaives with ironsworn?
Nah, Fireglaives give you a lot more bang for your buck, especially right now. I'd recommend them heavily over Ironsworn.
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3 minutes ago, eekamouse said:
I'm willing to bet it won't. Scroll up a page or three.
No need to, I've been here for them. Tell me, when was the warning the warpfire dragon was going out of stock? I bought one very shortly before it vanished, and as far as I'm aware, there was no last chance to buy either. I also don't recall a warning with the Fimir.
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2 minutes ago, eekamouse said:
Still available in the US store.
That's probably because they're still in stock there. If something sells out in a region and they're not making any more then they'll delete it from that we store and leave it on the others where it is still in stock.
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13 minutes ago, forumuser said:
Deathshrieker gone from FW UK store! No longer available, no last chance to buy.
That's unfortunate, I'm willing to bet the rest of the range will follow.
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33 minutes ago, Televiper11 said:
Good news, Azgorh-ites. My 2.5K LoA + Be'lakor list went 2-out-of-3 against Khorne over MLK weekend, including me tabling him twice.
I've got Be'lakor, what was your army comp?
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13 minutes ago, Honk said:
All hail Naga... uhhmmm Hashut!!!
just got some rocket launchers and fireglaives from Santa and I was kinda wondering how the actual ruling on the „Blackshard Armor“ is.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/tag/legion-of-azgorh/
Ben Curry implies in his faction focus and the compendium states that all LoA „warriors“ wear blackshard armor. But the „ignore first allocated wound“ characteristic is on no warscroll and the general usage of said armor is only mentioned in the headline for the Castellan and the ironsworn...is anybody wellversed enough to enlighten me, please?!
Who wears blackshard armor (demonsmith?! Kdaii?!) and does it also prevent wounds allocated from mortal wounds? The wording is off for the newer books, but we are f-ing old school boyz...It's in their allegiance ability, right at the start and no, it does not negate mortal wounds thanks to a FAQ for the main rules.
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Don't get your hopes up too much, just because they're not Last Chance to Buy doesn't mean they won't be. I thought Fimir for example would be put on Last Chance to Buy before they went but I was wrong.
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46 minutes ago, forumuser said:
We've been sidelined for so long, I guess they consider it some sort of an army theme at this point? I guarantee a FW written LoA battletome in the art style of Tamurkhan: Throne of Chaos would make big money, but they rather leave us to languish in uncertainty.
They don't have the staff needed to make that kind of thing. They need to support AoS mini's, 40k mini's, Horus Heresy and all of their specialist games. At the speed they work at, a Tamurkhan book would come out in 2026 if they started on it now.
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3 hours ago, erasercrumbs said:
Russian Alternative still exists and makes gorgeous Ironsworn, Fireglaives and Deathshreikers. The Renders are great too. You still need GW for Magma Cannons and Iron Daemons, though...which is good, GW needs to make bank off Azgorh.
I need to buy an Iron Daemon, but I need to know the army isn't going anywhere before I commit more money to it.
I say get it in case it goes and you're left with the regret of not having gotten what you wanted. It's the reason I picked up Volkmar when they were gearing up for the Cities of Sigmar book to come out (surprise, he was put up on last chance to buy and vanished almost immediately later) and why I picked up the Warpfire Dragon (it vanished a few weeks later). Now I just regret not buying the Fimir models since I'd have loved to use them.
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1 hour ago, mattbarker said:
The trait doesn't negate it. Negation happens pre-allocation, same as a ward, or a roll or a disgustingly resilient or whatever else in the game prevents a wound from being allocated to a unit.
At the end of a round, you total up all the damage to a unit and allocate it. You don't do this twice for mortal and non mortal wounds. After this step you deduct that total, regardless of how it is comprised, from the units available wounds. We then ignore the first.
Anyway... Going to sleep now!
Again, it was FAQ'd. Sorry if you don't like it, but you cannot negate them with the armour.
Also you say the trait does not negate, yet the rule itself explicitly states it works through negation.
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2 minutes ago, mattbarker said:
Without wanting to do this all again - I think it does.
Note the use of the past tense allocated. Not when allocating, allocated. Already happened.
Standard rules state after it has been allocated, they're treated the same. The armour doesn't prevent its allocation. The trait simply states the first allocated wound is ignored. Regardless of what caused it.
Right or wrong, that's how I read it and how the tense and syntax of the rules explain it.
Anyway, not looking to start this up again. It needs an FAQ as at this point I just don't care enough to argue why if it specifically worded in the past tense!
It was FAQ'd already, you cannot negate a MW unless it says you can.
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36 minutes ago, Durnaxe said:
You actually cannot download the Battletome anymore. At least on the US store there is no download link.
You also can't download it if you're in Canada, so it's not just the US.
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3 hours ago, eekamouse said:
I’m confused. Everything is still on the site. Nothing has been announced.
They didn't announce that they were no longer making Fimir either, and the warscroll compendium is no longer available.
AoS 2 - Legion Of Azgorh Discussion
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It's because several of their unit choices are no longer available from Forgeworld, and they've squatted other items without any warning.