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    The Rumour Thread

    in Age of Sigmar Discussions

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    I would have loved it if GW contacted some of the larger hobby streams from Youtube and hosted their content on Warhammer+. I'm thinking Season of War, MWG and Tabletop Titans for example - professional outfits that would need the minimum of investment from GW but could still benefit from a collaboration. That would give them plenty of content and could be mutually beneficial.

    Forgot to say that I mainly enjoy bat reps, but there's lots of painting/basing tutorials etc that use all GW products which could be added too. 

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    The Rumour Thread

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    9 hours ago, Turgol said:

    Everything points to BR: Kragnos being the final point of BR; it taking place in Ghur-Excelsis; and leading up to AoS 3 in the summer. 

    Fascinating that after the seizure or a major city, Morathi's ascendance, the (sort or) rebirth of Slaanesh, the destruction of Nagash and the end of the soul wars, the destruction of a stormhost, isolation of Chamon, and apparent return of Grugni, we still have not yet reached the climax! Even more fascinating that the climax takes place in the least expectable place and is linked to an unknown character.

     

    Exactly! This is the kind of build-up you'd see in the WWF Attitude era, before the Undertaker would come back and start choke-slamming everyone. Can't wait.

    The Rumour Thread

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    My lore is very shaky so forgive me, but isn't Kragnos a sleeping god who just woke up from being a mountain called the Beastgrave? I think that might be a clue! 

    Plus that beastmen warband they released with the Kurnothi was gorgeous. I'm just looking at the face on that banner and picturing Alarielle being like "yep, that's my guy" and it just doesn't feel right. 

    Imagine things like Bullgors and Shaggoths getting the AOS treatment... If Kragnos is BoC I'm going to have an army so harrowing that it will disturb my family.

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    The Rumour Thread

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    8 hours ago, PrimeElectrid said:

    How anyone can still complain about “more Stormcast” nearly six years into AoS is baffling. They are the poster army. There is *going* to be more Stormcast. 
     

    The battletome is also one of the oldest and in dire need of an update.

    I've been painting a Stardrake for weeks now, praying to Sigmar that his warscroll gets an update by the time I finish him. He's glorious to look at but I don't want to think what my brother's Mawcrusha will do to him when they first meet :(

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    The Rumour Thread

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    GW are doing wonders for my bank balance. I'm actually working through my pile of shame whilst waiting for the madness to settle down. I think I'll be finished my painting backlog just in time to bankrupt myself on 3rd edition. It's all going to work out fine!

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    Discussing balance in AoS

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    This is just anecdotal but I think it's relevant.

    90% of my games are against my brother. He plays Ironjawz/Warclans. I picked Lumineth. We did this purely for the Tolkienesque sight of an elven phalanx holding off a tide of angry orcs. We picked up a range of units we liked the look of, aiming to pick up the full range.

    My Lumineth trash his army. I mean, devastatingly. By the time he chews through my shining company wall his Mawcrusha looks like a hedgehog that's been hit by a truck, his support heroes have been melted by LIGHT like Raiders of the Lost Ark and my veil lady has made the rest of them run off. 

    My brother loves his green guys but our games are super boring, and when I tried to tweak my list it was obvious I was deliberately nerfing myself to give him a chance. 

    I'm either going to pick up Gravelords or Stormcast now, so at least the balance in our games will be more even. I mean, in hindsight I know the matchup was a tough one, and I accidentally picked up a very strong list (I had Teclis but he had no shooting for example), but as new players trying to get into AOS it was a bit of a letdown. At this point it's just the quality of the models and the fun of painting them that is keeping us in the hobby. 

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    The Rumour Thread

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    6 minutes ago, Beliman said:

    That MUST be something dwarvish! Grugni, Golemkin, Khazalid Empire.... I want to believe!!

    Kragnos is a forgotten Duardin God with a molten hammer and lightning shooting out of his eyes, about to shrug his way free of the Chamon Mountains and recall the Dispossessed to their rightful dominance, calling in the Fyreslayers (1/4 of them anyway) to help. AOS 3.0 launches with the MARCH OF THE DUARDIN!!!

     

    Or not :)

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    Any "must have" models in SCE?

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    I decided to start collecting SCE but I bought models based on what I liked the look of. So far I have Concussors, a Stardrake and Sequitors. There's bound to be a new tome out soon which will probably change the warscrolls and points costs so my advice would be to pick up stuff that inspires you first, and worry about army comp later 

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    The Rumour Thread

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    Also, I didn't watch the Twitch stream but they did say someone in that chat guessed correctly what faction Kragnos was linked to. Does this give a shortlist of likely candidates or was it like 3 dozen guesses at once?

    Personally I would LOVE Beasts of Chaos to get a revamp - even a little one where we get new kits of Centigor, Shaggoth, etc. The only problem I could see is that I've always loved the BoC aesthetic and I worry that GW might give them the Lumineth treatment (i.e. take a bizarre sidestep in a new direction).

    And before anyone flames me about Lumineth, I'm allowed to not like them!

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    The Rumour Thread

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    Not sure if anyone else has mentioned this on Kragnos but it could be Duardin...

    Reason A: link with mountains, crags, Karaks etc.

     

    Reason B: my people were gone... isn’t that the lore behind the dispossessed?

     

    Reason C: the voice has a dwarven accent. Listen to how he says Rock for instance, it’s very close to Gimli

     

    Readon D: something something Fyreslayers...

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    AoS 2 - Hedonites of Slaanesh Discussion

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    Just purely thinking about the models, is anyone else concerned that they might be monopose? Specifically thinking about the Myrmidesh/Symbaresh and the Slaangor. I'm not sure from looking at the photos that there will be any assembly options. It might work if the Myrmidesh/Symbaresh are intended to be small elite units, but when GW mentions a horde of a Slaangor, do you think a horde will be the same exact 3 models repeated over and over? 

    I know this won't be an issue for many people, but it was a big reason why I was turned off the Lumineth. Obviously the Blissbarb and the Seeker variants look great, I'm just thinking of big infantry blobs... Do you think there'll be some scope for re-posing/kit-bashing a little?

    AoS 2 - Slaves to Darkness 2 Discussion

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    Hi guys,

    I've just started working on a Nurgle-themed STD army - it's mainly for the hobbying side rather than the competitive scene, so lots of conversion and kit-bashing in the pipeline. I'm aiming for the Bioshock vibe... 

    I want to include a Mammoth as the centrepiece, but I noticed it has the Mortal keyword - does this mean it can be buffed by auras, warshrine, harbinger CA, Demonic power etc? Also, can it be included as part of the Plaguetouched Warband? 

    I know I just said I'm not too bothered about being competitive, but if that all works then the mammoth would be absolutely insane! 

    Will post pictures if anyone is interested, I'm building a test model now, either a lord or a varanguard. 

    AoS 2 - Maggotkin of Nurgle Discussion

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    1 hour ago, meatpipeline said:

    It's not easier to make a charge, it is basically guaranteed.  The marauder charge rules are ridiculous.  They have get run and charge from the tree, drummer +1 run/charge and change the lowest charge die to a 6, which means you only fail a 9 inch charge on double ones (~97% chance of success).  They can consistently make 11 inch charges.  They move farther (larger threat range) and can consistently get into combat.

    Marauders (Axe + Shield) have the same number of attacks as Chaos Warriors.  Marauders get more rend (or the same for a Warrior's greatblade).  Marauders attack at 3+/4+ which is roughly the same as  Warrior's profile.  Large number of marauders take buffs better.  Marauders are less survivable, but that isn't why you take them.

    The full answer is that Marauders deliver more damage more consistently than Chaos Warriors.  In competitive AoS, damage is very important as otherwise you can't push your opponent off of objectives, destroy their impactful units, or disrupt their gameplan.  Playing with low damage high survivability is playing to not lose the game.  Even then you have to hope to not die to the insane damage output of the best armies (40 skinks doing mortal wounds on hit / shooting / then charging, Kroak's Celestial Deliverance doing D3 damage to 3 units 3 times a turn, every turn).  With Chaos Warriors you are hopping to hold an object / area and not lose, with Marauders you are actively controlling space and dealing damage.  This is the reason you see Blightkings in all the competitive lists and relative few Plaguebearers.  Blightkings = Marauders, Plaguebearers = Chaos Warriors.

    If you aren't playing competitively, put whatever models you like best on the table.  I've heard a lot of people say they hate the Marauder sculpts and either actively look for alternate models or don't play them at all.

     

    That is super helpful, thank you.

    Do you feel cheated?

    in Age of Sigmar Discussions

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    6 minutes ago, PrimeElectrid said:

    There’s no misunderstanding. You quite clearly state you hoped that the Mountain Spirit was a one off, when all the LrL background tells you otherwise 🤷‍♂️ 

    Fine I'll come back one more time, just for your benefit.

    To state it as clearly as possible, if GW knew the design of the fox dude, the kangaroo riders, the llama lord etc etc etc, I think it would have been nice for them to have been included in the battletome artwork, even just as faint shapes.

    I thought that the spirits of Hysh would look like elf avatars, the way Orion was the spirit of the wood-elves without being a treeman himself. I did not think there would be such a variety of unusual creatures in the roster. When I saw the Mountain Spirit, I was disappointed, but just decided I wouldn't use one in my own list.

    If I was selling a range of models that included such a variety of creatures, I would a) state clearly in the battletome and hype articles and b) give some hints of their appearance to people who were about to invest heavily in the front end of the release. I don't think that is unreasonable. Clearly you disagree and that is fine, but don't suggest I have no reason to feel misled.

    Do you feel cheated?

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    4 minutes ago, PrimeElectrid said:

    Of course it was mapped out. Production and development cycles don’t spring into life overnight. GW knew this at least 2 years ago when they finalised the (then) Spring 2020 LRL release.

    The release was also pretty explicit that there was more to come. It was announced up front that Teclis was leading the vanguard while Tyrion hadn’t taken to the field. The LRL background talked about other Temples (and Nations) that didn’t have rules or models. Then there are plenty of rules that favour models that didn’t exist (specifically combat heroes).

    The only surprise here is the timeframe (RIP SCE chambers teased three (four?) years ago)

    I would argue that the only surprise here is the fact that the High Elves have joined forces with pokemon. When they said more to come I thought of dragon princes, bolt throwers, dare I say the re-release of the skycutter... I think the initial release should have clearly stated that the Hyshian spirits would be non-aelfs. Even if the first battletome had artwork in it that could signpost the direction the range would take... Before anyone says Swordmasters, I know, they are coming too. But when I collect a faction, I want to be happy with 90% of the range.

    My point is, anyone wanting to pick up some nostalgic High Elves could not have expected the faction to expand in this way. Personally I hoped the Mountain Spirit was a bizarre one-off... If you love the new models, fine. They are certainly well-made and I don't have an issue with their price, or their release schedule. I just think the initial release was misleading. It's just like... my opinion, man...

    Do you feel cheated?

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    Don't you think that if GW had the whole "2-wave release" mapped out they could have made it more explicit to give people a choice in how they approached the new faction? And don't you think the initial release could have had a more representative mix of model styles? 

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