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22 minutes ago, Vizzuss said:As i said in the welcome post, here in Granada, 1500 points are played. And now i can not find a competitive list in points and in hunting targets. Some help? Thanks you guys!
I have:
- Volturnos
- 15 eels
- 1 turtle
- 20 Thralls
- 2 Soulrender
- 1 Soulcryer
- 1 Tidecaster
- 2 Allopex
- EidolonWith the units you have, you'll need the King as General, so you can use eels as Battleline.
So:
- King
- Tidecaster
- 12-15 eels (6 and 6, or 9 morsarr 3 ishlaen)
- 2x 10 Thralls
- Fill with an hero of choice, or an Allopex if you feel fancy.
That would be my approach, I wouldn't play the Turtle or Eidolon in 1500pt, thats 2000pt material for me.
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Hey guys!
While I was assembling my Battleforce, a friend surprised me with a Volturnos for my birthday.
Now, I really prefer the King model than the named character. Can I Rin into any problems if I play the King model as Volturnos? Both have a sword and a shield modeled so...
Also, do you run your kings with Polearm? The dude looks so cool with the helmet and spear.
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4 hours ago, Kelsicle said:
My plan is to use them as choppy chaff to try clear screens/tank shooting. They can take a hit and pack a pretty decent punch so I think they’ll be useful for escorting thralls up the board.
Have you tried to play them as two units of 1 Shark each? It has to be painful rolling a 6 in Battleshock when you lose one of them.
Plus, being two diferent dudes you can send them in different directions and stop two units of doing things.
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4 hours ago, valenswift said:
Played my first game of Meeting Engagement last night and we decided to use the first battleplan.
My IDK list was
Spearhead - Tidecaster Naquas Barionic, Mistress of Shoals, 10 Reavers, Quicksilver Swords
Main body - Soulrender, Lotann, 10 Thralls, 3 Ishlaen Guard
Rearguard - 10 Thralls, 3 Morsarr Guard
I was playing against Khorne. My idea for the spearhead was have the tidecaster and reavers rush the objective and use some ranged attacks to score points in the first battle round. I didn't manage to get my endless spell off but the reavers took out one bloodletter with shooting and their 8" movement meant they scored me the maximum 5 points in battle round 1 (who would have thought reaver would ever be useful :P)
Going second again in battle round 2 I countered his charge with his bloodletters, who took out half the reavers, by retreating with them and flanking either side with eels and thralls. This again won me the objective and wound points making it 10-0
Strangely high tide was the best round for Khorne as he let me go first so he could use the quicksilver swords and it meant a lot of my units were out of position for charges. Khorne managed to get 5 points here as he rushed the middle and took out my first eels whilst his Daemonic Prince general survived by 1 wound.
Khorne went first in the final battle round and although he got all the charges as well as summoning 5 bloodletters and 5 hounds thanks to blood tithe and Karanak, he hadn't accounted for the Morsarr spears special ability and I took out his general before anyone attacked in the combat phase. Unbelievably the Morsarr rolled 3 twice to fail a charge in my turn which would have undoubtedly resulted in me taking the objective but ultimately it didn't matter as I got 23 wounds to his 21 and the final score was 12-8 on VP.
I really like the way meeting engagements play, there is a lot of strategy to deciding your 3 contingents but also I feel the lists can be very thematic, helping tell the story of the battle. When composing my list I could just imagine the Tidecaster and Reavers storming onto the battlefield loosing arrows and Eldritch energies, with the Akhelian nobles coming in the rearguard after the minions had taken the brunt of the Chaos Daemons.
After seeing no AoS or 40k being played as tournaments at Warhammerfest I'm sure this will definitely become the tournament standard their next year. With only 4 rounds and the way it scores, it feels like a cross between AoS and Shadespire and for me this is a fantastic way to play.
That's great to hear! How do you rate your units in this mode?
I was thinking of a similar list, dropping Lotann and the Swords for another unit.
Spearhead: Tidecaster, Reavers
Main Body: Soulrender, Thralls, Ishlaen, Allopex
Rearguard: Thralls, Morrsarr
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Have you tried Meeting Engagements already?
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I don't think Allopexes are a bad choice in fair lists, at least now at 120pts.
They are not a focused unit, they have a bit of everything (poor shooting, nice melee), and they are 8 wounds monsters that move super fast and fly.
Eels are better, but Sharks normally get some attention from enemies.
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I've started with SC + Battleforce. Next buy us going to be a King and the terrain.
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Maybe try changing Ishlaen for Morsarr and charge turn one with Fuethan Flood Tide?
Can't talk about t'he Leviadon, but Sharks are not that killy. Thralls should be good vs their battleline as they have 4 wounds each afaik.
Don't get frustrated, FEC is considered one of the strongest armies, even if they don't play ultra competitive builds, their abilities are stupidly powerful.
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28 minutes ago, Acid_Nine said:
I heard 2+ tough talk about them. I think one's re-rolling ones to hit in melee, one is re-rollling save rolls of one and One is rerolling hit rolls of one for shooting. Basically giving us stuff to do with our command points outside of turn 3.
True! I just saw that part of the video. As you said they are: Reroll ones in combat, reroll ones on saves and reroll ones at shooting.
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If you mean the Tidecaster, I think she went untouched. No clue about new command abilities for Idoneth.
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2 hours ago, DanielFM said:
Points have already leaked.
The bad:
-130 points Soulscryers. Harsh
-170 points Morrsar. Manageable
-Eidolon of the sea 420 points, Eidolon of the Storm 400. So -20 and unchanged. Still a hot pile of garbage.
The good:
-350 points Leviadon.
-120 points Allopex. Both closer to be useable.
-80 points Soulrender
-130 points Namartis. Nothing groundbreaking, each 10 infantry guys pay for the Morrsar overcost.
Overall? Nothing will change. With a pure eel list, you lose 30-60 points. With a mixed list, you gain maybe 30-40 points. What use are those, an endless spell?
I hope other armies didn't get cuts across the board, because we will be left behind.
It's sad that an absolutely stunning model like the Eidolon is not efficiently usable in competitive games
Even though, eels got a minimum increase and the other units (Thralls, Reavers, Sharks) had become more useable. Even the Octopus guy got cheaper haha
The Battleforce box that I just got became 70 pts cheaper
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Wow! 1000pt rules are nice for people like me that are starting with the game
Sign me in. Wondering how it's going to work with Deep Strike though.
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On 6/10/2019 at 9:18 PM, Gwill_of_the_Woods said:
@Denegaar- yeah I think it's worth it.
I too, play for fun (&fluff), with a very narrative style.
I went for the models that I thought I'd enjoy painting and it built from there!
My favourite so far is my Eidolon of Mathlann:)
Wow that's a cool miniature!
I'll buy the Battleforce with my next paycheck
and I'll add a King and a Soulscryer to fill the army. With that I'll have everything I need to play 1000-1500 pts lists I guess.
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Hello guys and girls!
I just started with AoS with Deepkin
I like Elfs and I loooved the looks of this army.
I got the Start Collecting and I built Spear Eels, the 10 Thralls and the Soulrender.
Now my question, my Hobby Store owner has a Deepkin Battleforce that sells to me at 10% reduced price. Even with the upcoming changes (GHB19?) and the possibility of some units being different in a couple of weeks, do you think it's worth to buy the box? Of course, I'm not a competitive player, I've only been "hobbying" for a year or so...
Thanks!
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Good morning from Spain!
I just bought my Start Collecting Idoneth Deepkin (for the looks, of course!) after playing Kill Team for some months. I just want to play bigger games, and AoS seems simple enough to be a good starting point
I heard about this Forums in Reddit, and here I am!
Salut!
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More experienced players will have different opinions though, I just played a couple games with the army.
It also depends on how competitive do you want to go. The more Morrsarr the strongest, but least fun for your opponent. I'd go 12 at 1500pt with a balanced list.