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June 14, 2019

Hard reed nothing,but was posted in reddit

https://m.imgur.com/a/R5OW4AY

Seems the unefather cost 300,.

Gain a feel no pain of 6 or 4( i cant read it).

Got naextra attack with the keyaxe.

If dont move then get extra 6" to the flame of the magmadroth

I cant read but some change to the weapon breaker skill.

New comand ability that i cant read also.

Seems pretty good for extra 20 points

June 14, 2019

So a top army as idoneth get a nerf of 10 points to eels(a increase of around 6'5%) and buff across tye board to every unit.

A botton army as dispossesed get a nerf of 10 points to warriors( increase of 12% to the cost of the unit),a buff to the cost of heroes who are minor % of the points in lists and zero changes to the other units?

Makes sense.......

June 14, 2019

Yes,every army across the board got insane buffs in points.

Only a select overpowers units got nerfed(evocators,wytches,reapers,eels)all those from top tier armys and got huge buffs to all the others units from the army.

But dispossesed a BOTTON tier army got nerf to warriors,buff to heroes(who are a minor % of the list) and zero changues to units???

This is dissapointing for not saying other word.

How heck can be posible than hammers cost 160 points when swordmasters are better in all and now cost 110 points?or idoneths tralls have same stats but 100% more damage and cost as 120 now also.

I guess it is better to be squated,but those changues are in reality a squat of dispossesed for who want play balanced games.

Seriously i cant think any company who nerf a army who is at the botton but only games workshop.

June 14, 2019

If they dont bann the free sumon of this mode that gonna be a faill.

Gonna be stupid play 1k points vs 1600-1800 points of fec.

Free sumon is umbalanced at 2k as the tournament dats show,but at 1k points gonna be umplayable

June 5, 2019

Agree with you,a tome with free peoole together dwarfs is almost a insult to dwarfs players.

It is as if they mix every high elf,wood elf,dark elf together and do a tome.

It dont makes sense,it is a lazy work of gw,of course it is easier and cost less money release a tome with disposesed together free people and ironweld before a full tome for each.

If they release a tome with all the armys together of the old world gonna be a lazy work and i hope dont happen.

June 3, 2019

On 6/2/2019 at 7:43 PM, eciu said:

So is Gotrek being made in resin ?

Yes it is a shame but he is going to be finecast.

The white dwarf in spacemarine suit and the female hero from imperial guard who was a hero from novels as gotrek were all resin.

So it is 100% for sure gotrek gonna be resin also.i would get him for sure if he was plastic,but i never gonna buy nothing done in finecast in my life

+++ MOD EDIT +++ Fixed your typing of finecast

June 2, 2019

I can tel you two datas:

It takes me around 3 hours to build(only build,not paint)a dispossesed dwarf

I have as 100 dwarfs

You can guess the time that take me to get ready my army

A hint:i started my dispossesed army with the tempest eye box released 2 years ago and i only have as 1400 points built so far in those 2 years and only built,as i havent painted nothing

June 2, 2019

I would get him for sure even if he havent rules,great for proxy of fyreslayer or dispossesed heros.

But i have a problem.i have a grudge with finecrap,and i as dwarf player i must follow my grudgebook and i wont buy finecrap never.

And the whitedwarf on spacesuit was finecast as the imperial guard female hero from black library,so pretty sure that gotrek gonna be resin also.

A shame as i really wanted it.

May 21, 2019

We have shadespire 3.0 incoming and so new warbands,pretty sure gonna be the taio of a croxigor of the new seraphon warband

May 16, 2019

1 minute ago, XReN said:

Can you point me what armies have free summon?

God tier:

Dok(havent)

Fec(best example of umbalanced free sumon with a 200 points hero bringing free 200 points of ghouls)

Slanesh(free sumon)

Idoneths (i put them as non free sumon army because it isnt used in tournaments,but they can free sumon with revive thralls)

2nd tier:

Skavens(free sumons)

Khaos dwarf (i havent idea)

Legion of nagash(best example of broken umbalanced free sumon together with fec)

Tzenth (free sumon)

Beastmens(free sumon)

Every army in the game that have in the game units that havent paid points for them is free sumon

May 16, 2019

On 5/15/2019 at 12:37 PM, Dracan said:

I took the Honest wargamer stats and made a quick graph of their AOS 2.1 vs AOS2.2 comparison for 6 May 2019 table leaving out the "non army" armies and got to this.

One can prob with certainty say Daugters to Idoneth are pretty solidly top tier with win ratios over 60% which is way too high, second tier is probably skaven to Beastmen which might need slight point adjustments, Tier 3 with Bonesplitters to Seraphon who prob need slight point drops, and last tier of armies not even competing, luckily most of them still will get new books but it does show Gloomspite and NH where pretty shafted in their bbooks.

I think is safe say free sumon is umbalanced (as every that is free)

The god tier and 2nd tier are all free sumon armys,only dok and idoneths are there without it(even idoneths have free sumon with trhalls coming back but i wont call them free sumon army).

I dont know nothing about khaos dwarf so i dont know where they are.

For me it is so easy how:

get back free sumon only to opens play as allways have been

Nerf every dok aura to wholy within. 100 points hag queen and 120 wytches

Nerf idoneths eels

With those easy fix the meta gonna be so much balanced

May 14, 2019

3 hours ago, DantePQ said:

I think otherwise - with their focus shifting to releasing BT in some kind for all factions it makes sense to release two Gloomspite-alike armies for Aelves

1) Hysh Aelves - realistically how many kits there are in GW store ?

- Skycutter(which could go to Free Cities BT) , Pheonix, Dragon

- Pheonix Guards, White Lions

- Chariots

- Dragon Princes

- plastic heroes,mages and Loremaster

Throw in models for Teclis, Tyrion, (as they are heavy on heroes thanks to plastic kits), 1 cavalery kit with 2 unit entires, 1 elite kit with 2 entries, 1 battleline kit with 2 entires + terrain + endless spells. That would be pretty amazing.

2) Malerion Aelves

- 1 kit for Battelines (Shards, Bleaksword, Spears)

- 1 kit for elits (Execs and Black Guards)

- Dragon, hydra, chariot

- Cold Ones

- Corsair

- Assassin, Fleetmaster, Sorceress

Throw in model for Malerion, some kind of big hero/monster kit , 1-2 kits for elites with 2-4 entries, maybe extra battleline kit + terrain + endless spells

It's win-win for GW :

- they unify all those micro factions (maybe giving them even Allegiance abilities Spiderfang alike)

- players that already have Aelves will buy new stuff

- new players will buy older kits which will sell like hot cakes as majority of them is fairly new

- gives both armies a lot of options and unit entries.

100% this.

It isnt hardly work do this,they dont need release nothing new,per example a high elf tome with :

heros:

dragonlord kit can have 4 warscrolls:a named hero(the elf with dragon helmet)-a generic hero(the elf with comon helmet)-a named mague(the drakeseer)-and a archmague on dragon.

The phoenyx kit can have 6 warscrolls:unmounted and mounted version or fire and frost,named mounted and unmounted

The prince mounted and banner kit have two warwcrolls also

Archmague box have two warscroll also

Troops:

Dragon lance

White lions

Phoenyx guards

New swordmasters of the box with skavens(but this is hard as the molds are sculped together with skavens)

They dont need release nothing new,thats is almost zero work.

Only relaunch those box with aos theme boxes and oval bases, a battletome and they gonna get more money with them than with the endless stormcast spam( in my group as the 80% players we are waiting for this move of gw to buy high elfs)

I dont get as a company cant think of this move,have almost 0 inversion and the potential to give them many money in return.

Others armys as dispossesed could get this same work

May 13, 2019

16 hours ago, Thiagoma said:

Hey guys, i was watching a video from Vince , who was inside the seminar fo AoS.

According to him, GW staff has a plan to have all factions covered with Battletomes in about a year or so. They claimed to have a schedule for it.

They also said that the tomes may not come as we expect, with merged factions, reimagined ones or mixes of old an new.

On this questionary GW said they are aware of the public that feel left out without tomes, afraid to dive into the game and be discontinued. They said it is holding AoS back and that their goal right now is to fix it.

Ps: i dont play Dwarfs, i play High Elf, but i respect you guys for all the perseverance to keep your faction togheter so i decided to stop by and share the news.

Cheers

Thanks! I hope be true and we get dwarfs and elfs tomes soon

May 12, 2019

Maybe be strange but im more hyped for the new bone spray than the paints.

I love paint on white primer,i hate black because it is hard to see details,i changued to vallejo grey but for projects as fyreslayers painted with shades i need white primer.

And white primer is veeeeeery bad,it goes frosty or eat details easy.

If this new spray can be used as replace for white primer and work fine i gonna be very happy

May 10, 2019

I only use vulkites as proxy of heartguard berzerkers so dont matter how i build them XD

May 10, 2019

3 hours ago, sal4m4nd3r said:

Just wait until people buy build and paint 30 hearthguard berserkers from hermdar. How do you take out a unit that can absorb 120 mortal wounds, battleshock immune ? With a basic profile of 4+/4+/-/1 ... even 1200 attacks do not take out the unit. Tier 3 LOL

So easy as kill the hero who is close,who have around 5 wounds with save of 4 or 5. So it is VERY easy to kill them and then 120 points for 10 wounds with save of 5 and 6++ is garbagge.

Sure if people dont know how play then fyreslayers with save of 2 and 999999 bufs are t1 but for people who know play then only kill heroes and they are t3

May 10, 2019

18 hours ago, sal4m4nd3r said:

God tier: FEC, DoK, Skaven (point and shoot)

Tier 2: Idoneth, LoN, Fyrefestival, Slaanesh, SCE, Gloomspite (almost all builds competitive and strong)

Tier 3: Seraphon, Khorne, Nurgle, Tzeentch, Nighthaunt, Sylvaneth, Beasts of Chaos (specific builds within these factions are strong and competitive)

Tier 4: Ironjaws, BCR, Bonespitters, Kharadron, (books need re-works to be competitive)

This is how I PERSONALLY see the tier system. Top two tiers are there for the dough. Tier 3 are the 3-2 type armies. occasionally pop into the 4-1 realm. Tier 4 armies are there to have fun. Might catch a couple opponents off guard. There ALWAYS exceptions to this but this is how I see it playing out.

I would put lon at god tier and fyreslayer tier 3 but agree with all other

May 10, 2019

I really dont like the death or humans(im an elf\dwarf dude) so i wont collect them. But i would be happy to see them on the game and lore again.

More factions is allways better and it was so cool see the arrow of bretonian cavalry charguing!

May 4, 2019

On 5/3/2019 at 11:27 PM, The_Yellow_Sign said:

They would obviously expand the Hag Naar bubble if they changed it to wholly within, as they have with literally every ability that's changed to wholly within...

Fyreslayer runesmitter changed from within 20" to wholy within 18"

May 1, 2019

The discount for wycthes gone

Hag 120 points,and changed the aura to wholy within as every actual army have

Those two changes gonna bring it to balance vs others armys(ignore flesh eater who is the new god tier and need more nerfs than dok)

April 29, 2019

Seem a bit umbalanced money wise.

We dont know the nameds but gits are as 70€ and silvaneths 100€? They are missing a box of fanatics,grots,or other more of squigs to be balanced

April 23, 2019

8 hours ago, Arkanaut Admiral said:

I’ve going through the warscrolls of each unit as they currently stand. Are they any changes you guys would like to see?

I’ve got a very small suggestion for starters; give longbreads an extra attack. This puts them on par with the other elite fighter units in the army and narrows that difference. This way you get;

Ironbreakers; braver warriors with an extra attack and much higher durability.

Hammerers; braver warriors with an extra, more accurate attack, slightly better durability, and immunity to battle shock if near heroes.

Longbeards; braver warriors with an extra attack, slightly better durability and the area buff of grumbling.

That’s just for starters though. I’ve got more but I’m working atm.

Make every heavy armored dwarf(irombreaker,hammerer,longbeard,irondrake) 2wounds

Make that our shields work vs rangued attack and not only melle

Put a 4++ to ironbreakers

Irondrakes get the rangue up to 24"

Dwarfking get the useless hability that have changued to some as inmune battlesok or something more usefull,also get a 4++ and one time per game double number of attacks(as belegar warscroll)

Unforged need a 4++ and some form of deep strike or hide in units to be viable,also a cost of 60-80

Also a warlord trait that when our general is killed every dwarf gain 1 attack is cool(thorim have it and it is cool)

April 22, 2019

2 hours ago, Joseph Mackay said:

since 2017 until late last year, Fyreslayers were my main army in aos. sadly i was getting a bit bored of them, within my group i basically auto won in Duality of Death and lost everything else. i dont think the army was bad, it was definately down to how i was playing them. however i did get bored of them and moved on.

after playing 2 games with the new book vs Stormcast and Beasts of Chaos, heres a bit of what i think

-Throwing Axes: disappointed they were nerfed to 5+
-Runes: small complaints. movement one nerfed to 2" and the throwing axes one was nerfed to bring the axes back up to 4+ why?
-lack of magic defense really hurts a lot more now than it used to pre endless spells. at least our one artefact for it is no longer once per game
-Magmadroths: cool that you can take 5 with Lofnir. the abilities being tidied up is good, the extra wounds, attacks and most of the mount traits are great, still die to a stiff breeze as always
-Hearthguard Berzerkers: they always felt overcosted b efore but now i think theyre great. theyve survived better than vulkites
-Vulkite Berzerkers: extra wound is great, normal axe attacks are better, no damage save hurts a lot (see below about points costs), Berzerker Fury is a bad rule, ours is once per game yet khorne get it all the time on a unit thats much better
-Infernoth: my favourite model of the prayers and i think it hs great rules. my only issue is you need a lot of priests to really take advantage of this and the other prayers
-Grimwrath Berzerker: greatly improved, my favourite foot hero. i look forward to game 3 where i plan to try a list using 10 or more of them (since they dont have the LEADER tag, you can take as many as you want but they cant be your general)
-Points: so heres the real dowside to the new rules (apart from not getting any new units). it feels like the points are based on what the units used to do and not what they do now. Vulkites cost too much at 160 without the damage save, Hearthguard Berzerkers could maybe go up by 20. magmadroth points are around the wrong way Runesmiter should be the cheaper one. battlesmith isnt worth 140 for what he does now (+1 save instead of reroll saves)

ive got a coule of list ideas i still have to try out before i fully form my oppinion, but so far im not enjoying playing them as much as i once did and i feel like i might end up going back to my Flesh-Eaters

Take care people here gonna jump to your troath if you says anithing bad about the tome

April 22, 2019

8 hours ago, angrycontra said:

First of all, all your examples have 1 wound (with phoenix guard being technically exception). Vulkites have literally double their survivability. Secondly, fyreslayers get easy access to save stacking so that can make vulkites even more durable. Thirdly, phoenix guard are pretty strong yes, but that is also the reason why phoenix temple based order lists have done well in tournaments. They're too good for their points. And even there... Even there the difference is only 20p and vulkites have ability to pile in after death (not to mention allegiance advantages) which should count for something. Also vulkites get full rerolls with axes. As for the dispossessed example, well getting 20 guys in melee is lot harder than getting 10 in melee (despite smaller bases) and once again, allegiance advantages for fyreslayers are the reason why they're better army than dispossessed (for now).

But seriously, do you really have nothing else to contribute to this thread (or any other thread for that matter) than constant whining and crying? Every time I see overly negative comment in this forum, I don't even need to look at the name to know it's you. It's just a game. If vulkites are bit meh, they get point cuts in the future. Same with everything else. Besides, at this point it's too early to tell and each army has it's own strenghts and weaknesses, you can't always tell straight away whether unit x is better than y.

So all is great and we cant say nothing bad about the tome?

It is a fact that vulkites are 100% useless now. Maybe i was wrong compare them to units of others tomes.

But it is so easy as compare them to stormcast,vulkites=liberators heartguard=sequitors it is 100% the same situation now for us.

Hearthguard are cheaper than vulkites and for less cost have more damage,same tankiness and easier to use(for same cost are half models and 2" rangue so much easier to attack with all) and have access to the same buffs than vulkites.

So how i am negative for point something that it is obvious?

Heartguard are better in all than vulkites for less points and have the same buffs,it is a fact

April 22, 2019

1 hour ago, ledha said:

I really need to know in which world you live because 140 pts units with that type of damage are not common at all and the one who have this damage output don't have a third of vulkites resilience

Did you really expected 120 pts for a 20 wounds save 4+ ( with shields) units ?

White lions 120points 20 attacks 3-3 1 rend, save4 and reroll saves 1 in shooting

Swordmasters 140 points 20 attacks 3-3 1 rend save 4 rerroling all in shooting

Grimhast reapers 140 points 20 attacks 4-3 1 rend invulnerable save of 4

Namarti tralls 140 points 20 attacks 3-3 1 rend (50-100% more damage vs 1 or 5 wounds) same save of 5

And the best example of one unit 100% better than vulkites: the phoenyx guard,140 points for 10 wound with save 4 and 4++ 20 attacks 3-3 0 rend.so same attacks,1 better save,4++ that is the same than double wound and cost 20 less also have 25 base and 2" rangue

Oh also maybe the worst army of aos2, the dispossesed have for 160 points 20 warriors that are 20 wounds with save of 5(rerrolling all at melle that is the same that a save of4 at melle of vulkites) also have 20 attacks 4-3 1 rend that is the same that vulkites with shield. So same points for same stats,vulkites have the attack even if dead and warriors the reroll wounds in oponent turn. I prefer vulkites but is a example of how bad are vulkites when they have almost 100% the same stats that a unit of one of the worst armys of this edition

I know that i was very salty at first and now after thinking more Many things in the new tome have been buffed and are great,but vulkites have been nerfed and havent any use now.

After some thinking maybe they are usefull vs flesh eaters,so they can figth back when the dragon allways attack first and attack twice kill them

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