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3 minutes ago, Sneedlewoods said:

Well, I guess your sequence is correct. but there wouldn't be the first regular +4 save for any mortal wounds. You'd have to skip that. "Just" 4+ save for Ignax's Scale, 5+ Save for Disembodied Skulls and 6+ Save for Deathleass Spirits for any mortal wounds.

Nono, just a regular +4 save against the attack, if i fail it would be mortal wounds allocated.

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23 hours ago, Takaloy said:

Damage Saves (FNP) do stack, which is why Ossefic Diadem is so good in a skeleton army. 

However, you can't use 4+ ignore mortal wound to ignore regular wound.

Thanks!

Yeah i know i can't use 4+ ignore mortal wound to ignore regular wounds, its just a +4 to any allocated mortal wounds.
Would that mean that if for example "Lord executioner" if i would give him the scales he would have a save after save after save?

Example: First regular+4 save, if failed = Ignax’s Scale +4 to ignore mortal wounds, Disembodied Skulls, on a +5 to ignore mortal wound, and then Deathless spirits ignore on a 6+ ? Sounds really cheesy to me

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25 minutes ago, CaptainSoup said:

From what I can understand Frightful Touch's ability is slightly different in that once you deal the mortal wound that attack has to end (the attack that rolled a 6). On top of that normally Relics that augment a bearer's melee weapon does not affect the mount's attacks assuming it is using one. I would probably clarify this with someone who has dealt with this before as I don't feel confident that I could give you the correct answer.

The scales are pretty good if you're wanting the bearer to stay alive longer. Let's say someone attacks the bearer with 20-something attacks. More than likely even with ignoring rend some attacks are bound to come through. Now you have the scales to give you a 50-50 shot of shrugging off the wounds you just failed to save. It can really help you in a bind!

As for the cloak, if a unit can only attack the bearer of the cloak then they are allowed all the rights of being in combat including piling in to the unit with the cloak, but they still cannot attack the bearer and has to complete the attacking unit's combat step.

Hmm, what about other relics that give you an "improved frightfull touch" like on a hit roll of 6+ the target suffers 2 mortal wounds and the attack sequence ends.
Wouldnt that stack with normal frightfull touch also, so the attack will do 3 mortal wounds?

The scales or the cloak would really help my Knight of shrouds on etheral steed out, last game i kinda just charged in to his "death" *No pun intended*
If i've done the match correct the scales would really drag down the precentage of succsessfull damage to him.
First a 4+ save ignoring rend, then a 4+ on each mortal wound allocated to him, and THEN deathless minions from GHoN or Deathless spirits from Nighthaunts giving him another roll after that to ignore on a 6+, because as far as i know they would stack.

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4 hours ago, Honk said:

Yes it is, of you‘re able to have more units in combat than your opponent...

Some other bling is although valid, the ignore rend amulet or the -1 to hit/ +1 move feather charm 

whatever works best for you or against your opponents 

Etheral Amulet isn't really required in an almost only nighthaunt army, and all have fly and alot of movement.
Does Jadewound Thorn: "Pick one of the bearer’s melee weapons to be the
Jadewound Thorn. If the hit roll for that weapon
is 6+ that attack inflicts 1 mortal wound in
addition to its normal damage." stack with frightfull touch?

Isn't this really good on a hero with etheral?:  Ignax’s Scales:
Roll a dice each time you allocate a mortal
wound to the bearer. On a 4+ the wound
is negated.

Also if i have doppleganger cloak and the only unit he has left to attack with is the unit closest to the bearer of the cloak, is he just skipping an attack because he dosen't have anyone to attack? And then it's my turn to attack with the bearer?

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28 minutes ago, CaptainSoup said:

Yes that's is correct thank you. My bad for the mix up.

 

1 hour ago, sainted75 said:

The spells are available only if you play in that realm, you get artifacts based on which realm your army hails from.

Isn't Doppleganger Cloak a really good realm artifact then?
"The bearer cannot be chosen as the target of attacks made by enemy melee weapons unless the bearer has made any attacks earlier in the same phase"

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59 minutes ago, CaptainSoup said:

For GHoN most of their relics are to buff solely the one wielding the relic, so if your army has a hero that is focused on being agressive consider items like the amethyst shard. Otherwise I'm a personal fan of the grave-sand timeglass. With it you can mortal wound a target hero in their backline without having to lift a finger.

Also consider relics from the melgin sorcery which give you a very wide range of relics to choose from.

As for the coven throne, I typically don't see people use it for GHoN. It's probably used more for Legion of Blood/Night.

 

You mean relics of the realms from the Malign Sorcery book?
Like, you choose what realm your army comes from and then you can pick relics and spells from that realm?
Is there a rule of what realm not to choose? Can i as Death make my army part of the realm of life?

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14 minutes ago, CaptainSoup said:

Its my pleasure, friend!

It sounds like you got the basics down on how GHoN works. I would definitely consider getting both the Skeleton Horde and the Malignant start collecting box sets to help you get not only Arkhan but the Mortis Engine as well. What's also great about what you have now is with the exception of Lady Olynder all of your units can be used in LoN without using any ally points.

Got any tips on what relic's i should choose in a GHON army? Is Coven Throne valid?

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10 hours ago, CaptainSoup said:

Greetings and welcome to Shyish! Our lord is grateful you have made the correct decision in joining his grand legion well before your death, that just makes you that much more useful when you die! *Laughs in Skeleton*

I'm still fairly recent in playing LoN but I feel I can give you some basic pointers at the very least (I'll focus mainly on Grand Hosts of Nagash since that is what this thread is based on).

1. I don't own a Mournghoul but from what I hear no one is using them much anymore. I guess the nerfs were just too great for it. A shame since its such a cool model.

2. You are correct that your Guardian of Souls cannot take a spell from the Lores of the Dead since he doesn't have all the keywords necessary to use those spells. You can confirm this by trying to put him in the Warscroll Builder.

3. With a list like this it looks like you were originally playing a Nighthaunt army with a Necro ally attached. I'm not familiar with all the inner workings of a Nighthaunt army, but I can at least give you some baseline tips for GHoN to help go in the right direction.................................

Thank you so much for the long and detailed answer!

 

I have a quite hero heavy army atm, but that's partly because getting more chainrasps 20x or grimghasts 10x  cost alot of dough to buy new.
I started with the "Start collecting malignants" and then bought the heroes and grim/rasps quite cheap from the internet and a guy that had built them but not painted them.

I would love to use the Mortis Engine but it can't be an ally with Nighthaunts, same with Necromancer i've come to know.

I tried GHoN the last couple of games, and with all the gravesites and my GoS spectral lure + Mystic shield, and necromancer i was quite unstoppable in terms of healing, not to mention the command ability "Endless legion" which seem REALLY strong to me to be able to return a full unit back to life?

My strategy as of latley has just been swarm them with all my summonable units, cast alot of spells to give them minus to hit/wound or make them fight last.
Then just fly over them the next turn with my general and strike them with alot of damage from my relic: 5attacks +3, +2, -1, 3 Damage.
With about 5 spells, 2 of them is spectral lure, heal 1d6 to a unit, or bring back 1d6 + necromancer + gravesites i can easily stay alive long enough.
Even of they would wipe out a whole unit i can just bring them back with an command point.

Oh, and if i really want to mess with them, i just bring my Coven Throne with etheral amulet.

The rules are really badly written when it says in GHoN "All death wizards know an additional spell from one of the Lores of the Dead. Clearly not all death wizards huh.

Now, this may not be the most optional build, but it is what i has at my disposal.

Would love to get Arkham, or some deathrattle, but now i'm mostly focused in my etheral army.

Again, a big big thank you for taking your time and answer a newbie's questions!

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Hello everyone! Got a couple of questions, i'm new to AoS, only been playing for about 3 months, but i find it really fun!
Got together an army of nighthaunts quite cheap of the internet, running nighthaunt/ Grand host of Nagash alliance .

A couple of questions, i'll be glad if anyone have the time to answer!

1. First of, is Mournghoul legit after all the nerfs? I thought it looked cool and showed my gf it, and i think she might have gotten it for christmas... And that's before i realised it was 300p. Still a cool model. Do you think it will get any buffs in the future?

2. if i would like to try Grand host of Nagash there is 1 bonus that i have trouble understanding: Magic: All DEATH WIZARDS know an additional spell from one of the Lores of the Dead. But then further down it says that only Deathmages/vampires may take spells from lore of the dead? So like my Guardian of souls can't take any, even if it says they can?

3. This is my list so far, i've won 12/15 games, please tell me what you think!

2x Guardian of Souls - Unnatural Darkness spell (From realm of Shyish) and Soul Cage
1x Lady Olynder - Lifestealer
1x Knight of shrouds on etheral steed - Balefire blade or Slitter
1x Necromancer (Ally) "Optional just to get Dance Macabre and some light heal"
1x Lord Executioner

20x Chanrasp horde
10x Grimghast reapers
10x Hexwraiths
3x  Spirit hosts

1480/1500p
- We're playing 1500p games atm, don't judge

Thank you in advance, and sorry for my "bad" english, it's my third language.
May posts som pics of what i've painted so far (new to painting but getting there quite fast)

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Hello everyone! Got a couple of questions, i'm new to AoS, only been playing for about 3 months, but i find it really fun!
Got together an army of nighthaunts quite cheap of the internet, running nighthaunt alliance .

A couple of questions, i'll be glad if anyone have the time to answer!

1. First of, is Mournghoul legit after all the nerfs? I thought it looked cool and showed my gf it, and i think she might have gotten it for christmas... And that's before i realised it was 300p. Still a cool model. Do you think it will get any buffs in the future?

2. if i would like to try Grand host of Nagash there is 1 bonus that i have trouble understanding: Magic: All DEATH WIZARDS know an additional spell from one of the Lores of the Dead. But then further down it says that only Deathmages/vampires may take spells from lore of the dead? So like my Guardian of souls can't take any, even if it says they can?

3. This is my list so far, i've won 12/15 games, please tell me what you think!

2x Guardian of Souls - Unnatural Darkness spell (From realm of Shyish) and Soul Cage
1x Lady Olynder - Lifestealer
1x Knight of shrouds on etheral steed - Balefire blade or Slitter
1x Necromancer (Ally) "Optional just to get Dance Macabre and some light heal"
1x Lord Executioner

20x Chanrasp horde
10x Grimghast reapers
10x Hexwraiths
3x  Spirit hosts

1480/1500p
- We're playing 1500p games atm, don't judge

Thank you in advance, and sorry for my "bad" english, it's my third language.
May posts som pics of what i've painted so far (new to painting but getting there quite fast)