[AoS 2 - Disciples of Tzeentch Discussion]

Hello I'm new to both the forum and the hobby, after some search on internet i found that the faction i like the most are Tzeentch and Seraphone so i come here to ask advice for the build for my first army before I go to the shop and buy the actual models.

Actually when i first looked through the warscroll of Tzeentch I've fallen into some sort of love/hate relationship, for exaple when i read Kairos warsroll i thought "wow that's amazing he can cast 2 spell a turn and know all spell of friendly wizards units", but then i realize that you can cast only one spell per "name" per round, so if kairos successfully cast the spell the original wizard can't, what a waste,

To make this list the "theme" are "witchfyre coven" and "mortal"

Allegiance: Chaos

Leaders
Fatemaster (120) 
- Artefact: Timeslip Pendant
Gaunt Summoner and Chaos Familiars (180)
- Lore of Fate: Bolt of Tzeentch
- Lore of Change: Treason of Tzeentch
Magister (140)
- Lore of Fate: Glimpse the Future
Ogroid Thaumaturge (180)  
- Trait: Incorporeal Form
- Artefact: Changeblade
- Lore of Fate: Infusion Arcanum

Battleline
40 x Kairic Acolytes (300)                                      
- 26x Pair of Cursed Blades                                              
- 2x Cursed Blade & Arcanite Shield                                   
- 12x Cursed Glaives                                                        
20 x Kairic Acolytes (160)
- 12x Pair of Cursed Blades
- 2x Cursed Blade & Arcanite Shield
- 6x Cursed Glaives
10 x Chaos Warriors (180)                                        
- Hand Weapon & Shield                                                    

Units
1 x Chaos Warshrine (160)                                        
3 x Tzaangor Enlightened on Disc (140)                   
3 x Tzaangor Enlightened on Disc (140)

Battalions
Witchfyre Coven (120)

Endless Spells
Aethervoid Pendulum (40)
Balewind Vortex (40)
Emerald Lifeswarm (60)
Geminids of Uhl-Gysh (40)

Total: 2000 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 1
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 140
 

 

Fatemaster is one of the few leader i found decent in melee and pretty tanky, good to catch objective or face heroes with the Ogroid Thaumaturge.

 

Kairic Acolyte are the core of the witchfyre coven, from what i read nobody use the covenant because acolyte hit like toilet paper so i thought "why don't try to maximise the effect to make it worth" so 60 acolyte are 120 missile a turn that hit 4+ and they also have a decent melee attack.

They're 40/20 because like that cost 20 point less.

 

Chaos warrior are my needed 3rd battleline and from my understanding of the battalion rule a 3rd unit of acolyte wouldn't have the benefit of witchfyre coven so i opted for a tanky frontline to put in front of the acolyte

 

Chaos warshrine: while i was building the list i noticed that most of the units are mortal so why not give them a free 6+ save and a turn long reroll to all save to one unit.

 

Tzaangor Enlightened: In the beginning they were the black sheep of the army, the only non mortal unit, but I still need them for the witchfyre coven; then i thought that with their decent stat and awesome movement on disks 2 unit of them can be used both as a melee distraction as well as a commando unit to catch objective that require 5+ model, a shame i can't buff their resilience with the warshrine.

 

Other option that i thought of are:

- removing 3 enlighteneded to max out the second unit of kairic acolyte or remove 3 and set the other 3 on foot for 180 point of goodness

- remove some endless spell

- it's possible to switch gaunt summoner + chaos warrior with tzaangor shaman + tzaangor(battleline) but at that point you can remove the warshrine because it's no more worth it as the number of mortal of the army decrease.

- Arcanite Cabal and Pyrofane Cult battalions would enhance the acolyte even more but i don't know if it's worth the point investment.

- Ally, too many choice that I can't evaluate correctly because of my lack of experience.

 

So i hope in any advice to make this build better, especially the item, ally etc..

I found a little overwhelming try to build a list with all the information scattered between different book and faq so i hope i don't misunderstand something or use some outdated info.