Ravinsild
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Interested to hear any thoughts on a list like this:
Allegiance: Ironjawz
- Warclan: Ironsunz
Leaders
Megaboss on Maw-Krusha (460)
- General
- Boss Gore-hacka and Choppa
- Command Trait: Right Fist of Dakkbad
- Artefact: Sunzblessed Armour
- Mount Trait: Mean 'Un
Orruk Megaboss (140)
- Artefact: The Golden Toof
Orruk Megaboss (140)
Orruk Warchanter (110)
- Warbeat: Fixin' Beat
Orruk Warchanter (110)
- Warbeat: Get 'Em Beat
Battleline
10 x Orruk Brutes (260)
- Jagged Gore-hackas
- 2x Gore Choppas
10 x Orruk Brutes (260)
- Jagged Gore-hackas
- 2x Gore Choppas
10 x Orruk Brutes (260)
- Jagged Gore-hackas
- 2x Gore ChoppasBattalions
Da Boss Fist (220)
Total: 1960 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 0
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 131
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On 7/16/2020 at 4:01 AM, Grdaat said:
Which city is AoS's Terra/Cadia/Fenris/Armageddon/Baal/Ultramar/Vigilus? 40k gives reasons for why their major planets are important, each contributes to those around it whereas AoS's cities are just cities. If they're destroyed, they're replaceable. The same isn't true of the planets I mentioned, just look at what happened when Cadia fell.
AoS is like 40k if there were no major planets.
The Cities are the first strike points that Sigmar sent his Stormcast Eternals. They took the first ground and cleared them of chaos and are invaluable to transporation across the realms. It's like an interrealm high-way, but Chaos still holds the 8 points. Without the Cities and the gates they protect the realms would be isolated from each other making the forces against Chaos, and amongst themselves, much harder to collaborate logistically.
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On 7/10/2020 at 4:35 PM, Kramer said:
Where you from?
I'm currently playing a narrative campaign... no don't switch off. In which you just play a tournament with a set amount of rounds in your local club. The only change is you track progress on a campaign map. That way you can still tournament prepping, balls to the wall, competitive games. But you add a narrative element that's basically there to track who's winning.
If it's a succes you can maybe reward players with a small advantage in game as a narrative result, and slowly after a few years, you have the narrative group that will scoff at netlists. muwhaahaha 😈
I'm from Tennessee, and honestly this sounds like a ton of fun! In fact we had a Path to Glory campaign started in early February...but unfortunately Covid hit and it died. We even got bonus points from writing Narratives of the battles and such. Short stories for our armies and having a backstory.
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If I could find people who weren't die hard competitive to try out open and narrative play I would but alas I'm in perma-tournament prep mode
Although I have fun with that too.
I'm more like I'll just play anything. I'm even open to other full-scale fantasy wargames. I only know of 2 though. Kings of War and 9th Age lol.
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Megaboss on Maw-Krusha.
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Aside from battletomes...has any warscroll ever been updated or reworked outside of FAQ clearing up a sentence? I've never seen anything get a brand new warscroll unless it was with a brand new battletome.
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Funnily enough I've seen quite a few battle reports saying "Oh I guess we freaked out over nothing" regarding Lumineth Realm Lords and they actually aren't that good.
However only half their range is out so you're only playing with half an army ATM.
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On 6/25/2020 at 1:22 AM, Sternacht said:
Hello,
I would like to start (well really start!) an AOS army. I would like this army to have a few figurines on the table, to be very elitist. For the moment I hesitate between the Stormcast and the Ossiarch. I have begun with a Seraphon's army (the two starting collectors) but, after having tried to make some rosters, I doubt it is possible to make a non populous army out of it. And I don't like the endless spamming of the same unit. I have to add I'm a beginner in AoS.
Your opinions would help me a lot to finally be able to start an army that suits me perfectly.
Thank you in advance.
Did you look at Thunderquake/Thunder Lizard lists? Engine of the Gods, Slann, Kroak, Stegadon Chieftan, Bastiladon, Stegadons, Kroxigors.
The list I'm tweaking and perfecting has like 40 models in it. 30 of them are skinks.
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Just now, Jupiter said:
Right but what if you play khorne army book and not std. Crazy rules these days, I remember the days you could actually read the warscroll and apply those rules. Lol.
So in other words the +1 save is coming from the Prayer (probably from a Slaughterpriest, but possibly from the Warshrine) called Bronzed Flesh which gives +1 to save rolls.
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If I ever get another army after Seraphon it would be trolls. All trolls.
Although really I'm sitting on my hands hoping for vampires and hoping they're ALL vampires and elite small model count. Cuz they're the best of the best of the undead. but...idk dare to dream.
If they ever come out odds are they'll be some horde army or something with like thralls for battleline
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Well, I don't really have a dog in this fight, but any playtester are welcome at Nashcon and they can bring any book they like.
Now whether or not you want to travel to Nashville, Tennessee for Nashcon and whether or not it's an event large enough to be on anyone's radar aside from those of us who live in the Southeast USA is another question.
Still welcoming you to Nashcon.
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52 minutes ago, Sleboda said:
There is a game within the game. Yes, indeed. Or, more accurately, there is a "game about the game" but that is not the same as the current way the game is played, and it's certainly not the same thing as the way people are playing the game.
For example, meta data refers to data about the data. Like if you wanted to say that 10% of the classifications of color of dice are variations on red. That would be data (10% of the things) about the data (the groupings of colors of dice).
Simply saying that a lot of people are using shooting heavy lists is not a game about the game. It refers to the environment in a local group.
That's not, at all, a meta game, and certainly not a "meta" (which is a prefix for other words).
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To add to it for clarity -
If we made a game, an actual game and not just an analysis (oh look, another extant real word and not just a prefix), about the game, we could call that metagaming when we played it. Like, if we had a game where you accumulated information about an army by turning over cards and rolling dice, and used the results to allow the winner of that game to change the rules of a game of AoS, we could call the first game "an AoS metagame."
TL;DR
-Meta is a prefix, not a word.
-Even if it were legitimate shorthand for "metagame" it would still be an incorrect usage of the term.
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If you refer to an army as an "auto," you are wrong. You may mean "automobile" when you shorten it to "auto." The full word (automobile) is wrong as the word to describe an army, and the short version (auto) is still not a word.
I always thought metagaming was when you as a human real life person player know something that your in game character does not know, but you act as the human person with that knowledge in the game when it is something your character cannot know. Like "I choose to attack the Orcs around that corner" because you can see the miniatures on the map, but your character can't see around corners in the game. Then people get mad at you.
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1 minute ago, Sleboda said:
I would just like to call out the ---fact--- that there is no such thing as a meta.
Just like there is no such thing as a pre, or a circum, or an omni.
We have words and phrases for what some people mistakenly call a meta. Environment. Popular style. And so on. We don't need to support the dumbing down of communication by accepting the use of a prefix as a word on its own, especially when there are already ways to say it correctly.
I will now kindly ask everyone to get off my lawn.
If I understand the terminology it means Meta-Game, or "The Game within the Game" which typically seems to be "The best possible and most optimum" way to play the game.
Why is there no game within the game?
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2 hours ago, zilberfrid said:
5e might be a better comparison. It's running for six years now (3.0 ran 3 years, 3.5 ran 5), and it's intentionally toned down all the excesses to help longevity.
Sure balance isn't perfect, but it's no 1e, 2e or 3.x.
Still, not a pvp game. I don't know what a good comparison may be without computer games.
Yeah I was gonna be like League of Legends honestly. How the heroes and mechanics have evolved and changed, how they went back and redid all the Season like 1-3 heroes released to revise their kits to keep up with the newest and latest heroes. How they've changed the games to mostly skill shots from point and clickers, etc. They keep revising the jungle. It just keeps moving forward and the meta shifts. I guess I should have just started with that.
Then there's you know, like Tribe 2. And if you're like "what?" well...that's exactly my point.
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1 minute ago, zilberfrid said:
3.x only worked because it isn't pvp.
The splatbooks made a hot mess of balance.
In a pve, balance is much less of an issue, so it matters less if you are only half as effective as your friend.
When you play against one another, balance needs to be a lot closer.
Well yes, I understand that, I was just using an example of a game that's changed over time due to constant development. Unlike a game which nobody touches and it dies.
I could use video games instead.. ?
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On 6/23/2020 at 5:32 AM, Tokyo Nift said:
4) At the last 6N, Slaanesh had just received a new book shortly before list submission. As I'm sure people are aware that Slaanesh book was one of the most powerful books AoS has ever seen. Despite this, the England team did not have a Slaanesh list in their roster, suggesting that despite insider knowledge they had not had sufficient time to prepare a Slaanesh build for the current competitive team meta.
Yeah or maybe they just aren't degenerate heretics and stay loyal to the God-King Sigmar!
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You know, I think that this is really a positive thing. The designers are pushing the boundaries, they're experimenting with the rules and they're trying new things out. I think that shows the game is progressing and growing. It's moving forward and they're thinking about it.
Dungeons and Dragons 3.0 was a totally different game by the time Dungeons and Dragons 4th Edition came out.
Even Pathfinder was a different game by the time Pathfinder 2E came out.
Yes, there was power creep, but the game was being supported, and it was growing and it made for new, awesome characters. Because the thing is what's broken now may become the new norm, and when it comes round to circling back to YOUR battletome, they may push the boundaries even further, or give you what's now the new norm. It will cycle like this, forever, but I think that's honestly okay.
I've only heard legends of the World That Was, but allegedly some armies would languish for years with nothing. Not 1 model, not one rule...they'd just have a book for like 3 Editions with 0 changes. And that's why fantasy died. Nobody cared and it stagnated.-
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27 minutes ago, Euphanism said:
The players that always jump on the most powerful bandwagon at my LGS don’t care about looks at all. Most of them don’t paint anything, and at a recent tournament I actually played against a guy running a FEC list with his zombie Dragon stuck to the base with blue sticky tack.
Personally I think they look way better than the same little human guy on a horse that I can get from 40 different other miniature companies, but that doesn’t affect their balance at all.
Oof. I guess my post wasn't funny enough to pass on the joke.
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10 hours ago, Euphanism said:
Until I started just bringing catapults and Mortek, I lost most of my games as Petrifix. Our 'competitive' meta is veeeeery first-turn kill heavy; Slaanesh, FEC, and KO pretty much dominate. I only saw a few weeks of Tzeench before the shut down but it seemed to be in the same tier. In those cases, playing Petrifix without catapults felt like I basically showed up to make a neat little display of my army and then put it back in the case. 🙃
We have very few Death players at my LGS (besides that one FEC netlist), and only two Ossiarch players counting myself. The fact that none of the people that usually jump on the new hotness (until it gets an errata) went for Petrifix made me feel like it wasn't as powerful as people thought. It's a shame the best way to play them is with hordes of Mortek, because the lore of Petrifix makes it seem like tons of Stalkers and Guard would be really cool thematically.
tl:dr if Petrifix is really overpowered then I'm doing it wrong
Bro....I hate to tell you.... the reason people didn't jump on the Bandwagon is cuz them some REAL ugly models 😢
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Just now, NauticalSoup said:
The funny thing here is that the best toolbox Big Waaagh list we've seen placing in events can squeak by with just one Warchanter by using a Rogue Idol and not bothering with most of the Ironjawz range. So basically this restriction would just make Ironjawz trash and strongly encourage you to play the (more powerful) Big Waaagh instead.
I'm playing Big Waaagh! Just with basically all Ironjawz models because I don't like Bonesplittas.
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1 hour ago, KingBrodd said:
I honestly cannot remember, it must've been whenever Genestealer Cults got their own Codex and that army has been around in some capacity for decades before that. Hell as a NEW army it may go way back to the Tau so almost 20 years.
Yeah GSC was released in 8th edition, but GeneStealers have been in the books and stuff for...forever. Hell I read a charcaradons story about a genestealer uprising they had to get through on a planet they'd visited for the red tithe to supplement their chapter.
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6 hours ago, LuminethMage said:
Thanks for the reply. I understand that you speak about "fun", that's exactly the problem I have with it. Because fun is really arbitrary. Talking about data-based winning rates makes more sense, even if they are only relevant for tournaments.
As you are playing FEC - they can be very "unfun" or "cheesy" for other players, as you know. Even if you explain in advance how they play and possible counters. If your opponent is a causal player, they might also not have counters available at that point. You can do the exact same thing with a Petrifex list. Explain the counters and don't play the most extreme version of it.
I think what you describe is more a problem between people who just play casually and people who play very competitively. But there is no qualitative difference between an extreme one drop alpha strike KO list for example, which blows up a casual player or a Petrifex list which uses all its options. You wouldn't have appreciated if you got banned playing FEC just because other people find them cheesy. Especially as this happens with many new armies, because GW wants to introduce new play styles and options. Which people then are not used too, and don't know to counter. So they aren't fun for some people. Others find it fun to challenge themselves.
As for Teclis, I think it's too early to be worried about that. If he really turns out to be too strong, I'll do the same thing that you are doing, I don't play an extreme competitive list, and let them know what to watch out for.
The fact he bans more than 1 Warchanter from Orruk Warclans.... bruh. What even is this. I'd never play in his club. I take 2 and just about need them both just to survive in my club.
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I can identity the very very light blue nearly white as ice blue. I’m going to guess the darkest parts are something like Cerulean Blue in the Citadel Colour App. However it’s the main skin tone I literally can’t figure out.
And I’m not entirely sure what the mid-tone between the skin and the forearms and legs is...
The mid tone almost seems to be “just blue”?
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I somehow found myself with even more openlock terrain, haha. Unfortunately I don't have an FDM printer for the larger pieces though 😢
Although I have fun with that too. 
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I didn't get the GHB this year either. I just didn't see a point to it.