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Does anyone have suggestions for transporting the twins? I really don’t want them to break after all the work I put in

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It’s also worth noting that this isn’t a full winter rebalance. Just like the 40k balance slate, this is unlikely to be everything.

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Synessa is a solid toolbox, but requires finesse and practice to use optimally. Dexcessa is fun, but can easily find themselves overwhelmed before they build up steam, and lacks the defense and shenanigans of Sigvald.

Of the two, Syn is more commonly seen because heir tricks are rarer/better in a god meta, and they can hide. At least IME

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I would love to see the twins get to give a shenanigan or two to nearby friends, like Dexxie giving out her +1 attack next turn ability or Synnie giving euphoric killers or MW or something on 6s to hit with ranged weapons. Those buffs might be strong enough to be 1/battle; maybe with one extra use if you bring both

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25 of them sounds like a nightmare. I wanted to quit after 5

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I mean, I would say that Slaanesh is tricky and unforgiving, it’s probably better to give it a few more shots before you give up. Just looking at your list, it might be worth proxying one or both of the slickblades as blissbarbs. This list also seems like it could benefit from some kind of anvil, just to take punches, since your list is fragile as heck

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According to some quick math 4 archers is equivalent to 3 archers + Haemonculus 

Because 8 shots, half hitting, and half wounding is 2 wounds, while 6 shots, half hitting and 2/3 wounding is 2 wounds

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I pretty much agree, with the caveat that the smaller heroes (IME Enrapturess/Masque and probably LoP) provide enough value that they’re competitive with any equivalent multi-model unit. I love my Keeper bunches because she looks amazing and has a high spike result, but it’s hard not to look enviously at Be’lakor or an Exalted Bladebringer + Masque for the points

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I’ve been thinking about alternatives to summoning, and I’m drawn to the idea of every unit having a bonus ability on its warscroll activated by spending 3-6 depravity points. Something like giving Twinsouls MW on 6s, letting slickblades move 6” in any direction after they fight, the Lord of Pain granting his 5+ ward in an aura, or Synessa getting an extra/+1 to cast.

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They share some of the pieces. The main peacock fringe on Dex and the upper parts of each Syn’s wings are unique, but the sides of the peacock fringe also make the bottom half of the wings

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Switch out the lesser herald, cogs, and one archer unit for 5 Hellstriders and 10 Seekers? I’d also consider replacing the Enrapturess with the Masque, you have very little that will soak fire for the Enrapturess to do her work, and the Masque is great utility/disruption.

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Daemonettes, Seekers, and a Bladebringer on Exalted Chariot, with a Keeper when you can 

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I mean you’re not wrong. It’s why I’m kind of excited for the horror of Exalted Seekers

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@Enoby I had that problem, just ended up sanding/slicing off the nubs and supergluing the whole thing to the back

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The thing I dislike is when people whine and kvetch without their own experience and in absolute terms, like “ohh this can’t possibly work, no one could possibly beat X with Y” and instead of reasoned points or acknowledging the limits of their own understanding, stamp their feet and pout. It’s one thing to be upset that a faction you like is having a hard time, or express disagreement. I simply loathe petulance and baseless absolutism

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I think Synessa is one of those pieces where they rarely do everything they could do, but has multiple opportunities to contribute value.

Theorycrafting wants reliable, context-agnostic solutions, and Synessa isn’t that, but they do work, especially if you can keep them alive.

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Twinsouls have a 5+ fnp on alternate turns. You’re also getting in summoning units, adding to board control. 

It’s certainly an uphill climb, but it can be done. I don’t think Slaanesh is a tournament winner right now, and you probably knew that, but there are tools.

I don’t understand why you asked this question when you sound like you know the answer you think is correct.

Have you played any games with Slaanesh in the new edition? 

 

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The list deals with gods by using Be’lakor to shut them down for a turn, Pavane them with Syn. The tank is the Twinsouls who can get to a 3+, and the Lord of Pain granting rerolls on either the archers or the Twinsouls spikes their damage. If you look at how he deploys the Hellstriders, he uses the base length to wall off portions of the board. 

Synessa is useful for sniping small heroes or low save units like archers

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I think the thing that’s awful about them I’d that they’re as overwrought as dex/Syn but what you get for them is 180 points of 6+ save, and for that you have to paint 11 bodies with beads and hooks and feathers and straps.

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Condolences. I just finished mine and I never want to look at that kit again

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I really rate the Amulet of Destiny for an Exalted Bladebringer, if you don’t go Lurid. Takes advantage of the fact they don’t degrade and can get a decent save with Defense

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What is that pink paint called?  It’s so striking!

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I feel like that list might like Blissbarb seekers more. Dexcessa is already going to be the same sort of melee bully the slickblades are, and the striders ware solid walling chaff.

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The fascinating thing about that is that they must have changed it before they even got any fan feedback. Seems to suggest some internal indecision.

 

Also that, combined with the lore on Dexcessa’s GW web store page, calling Morathi their figurative mother, seems kind of neat

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I’m going through painting my first 11 now and they are shaping up to take almost as long to get through as a twin