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33 minutes ago, FlatTooth said:

The rule is really straightforward. "If this unit was released in your charge phase, it can attempt to make a charge move in that phase *unless the unit it was with has any restrictions that would stop it from attempting to charge* (if it ran for example)..."

If it's host unit has anything preventing it from attempting to charge then the fanatics cannot charge. The host unit is engaged and therefore has a restriction on charging -- the fanatics cannot charge.

I don't love it either but that doesn't mean it isn't a clear rule.

 

Felt dumb at first... but yeah, thats how I read it.

Looking forward to the FAQ.

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1 hour ago, Malakree said:

I'm guessing that you mean he used it in the charge phase while the unit the fanatics were in was engaged in combat? If so then it "should" be legal.

As long as you can deploy them more than 3" from the enemy while wholly within 3" of your unit then it's legal. 
Since the unit they are in hasn't retreated or run, if it's your charge, phase they could also charge that turn as well.

Becoming unengaged from combat during your turn doesn't stop you from charging, it's specifically a "Retreat Move" which prevents charges and that has very specific conditions. Consider a unit engaged with 1 grot, that grot gets killed in the shooting phase, the unit can then charge in their charge phase.

 

Retreat then deploy the fanatics is the way I think you need to go. But if the unit is engaged, does it even have a charge phase? Think it should be legal to deploy them anyways, 3” away. But thats not what I get from the warscroll. Might be my lack of knowlege in the english language tho.

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45 minutes ago, TailoredTackle said:

Watching the new MWG battle report, Matt deploys 5 Loonsmashas while the 40 man unit they are hidding in is in combat. Does anyone know if this is how the rule is interpreted?

I read it as they couldn’t pop out unless the unit they hide in could make a charge move. I don’t think they could charge the unit they are in combat with.

But then let’s say they can evn though the unit can’t charge, Matt then charges the fanatics. If they can pop out of a unit in combat, I would assume they can’t charge and de facto 3” from enemy can’t pile in? 

Maybe I am way off but it’s how I have been playing it and would love to play them as popping out for a unit in combat.

Na. Think it is pretty crystal that you need to realese them in either your own or your opponents charge. Think he messed that up.

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37 minutes ago, Thostos said:

  Was just thinking on that last night..

 Yes it is,,first off,both models fit on top to satisfy the "remain within 1" rule,secondly in the rules for the cauldron it states that the cauldron and the wizard are treated as one model(then of course goes on about the "remain within 1" thing).

 

Fantastic news. Gonna be great trying this out.

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