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Posts posted by Bass294
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Has anyone noticed how unbalanced some of the path to glory tables are? Just compare Stormcast and Sylvaneth.
Stormcast infantry table all has options for 10 liberators
Mounted is 1: 5 gryph-hounds, 2-5: 2 dracoth riders 6: drakesworn templers.
Hero options are 6 assorted heroes.
General options are: Lord-celestant on foot + 7, drakoth + 6 or stardrake + 5.
Sylvaneth infantry is 1-3: 5 dryads, 4: 5 revenants, 5: 5 spite revenants, 6: 3 kunoth hunters.
Hero is 1-2: branchwraith, 3-4 branchwych, 5-6 treelord.
General options are wraith/wych + 6 or Treelord anchient/durthu + 4
Am I missing something? I was really looking forward to path to glory with sylvaneth but the tables are just insulting. 5 drayds really?
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31 minutes ago, Mlake2008 said:
Is there any forge world models in the book?
No forge world models, the AoS facebook page has said forge world will make points for their units in matched play. No time frame was given.
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7 minutes ago, daedalus81 said:
Direct from the book? That's much cleaner, and better, in my head.
Yeah direct from the book. Can't post pics of the book here but there's a few paragraphs on it. It's good they did a very catchall "reinforcement points" system rather than making summoning different.
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Any sort of spell or ability that creates a new unit will need to take from your "reinforcement points" when they are put on the battlefield. You can choose not to pay the points and forfeit the unit if you so choose.
Any type of ability that summons models in a unit but not new units doesn't have to pay points, but you can't exceed the units starting size.
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Few more pics added to my previous post, looks like we're getting to the good, meaty stuff with the allegiance bonuses!
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1 minute ago, PJetski said:
I can't believe Thundertusk is a Battleline unit.
Age of Sigmar is over, welcome to the Age of Thundertusk.
Considering you still are limited to 2 behemoths per 1k points it's not that awful. It's less monsters than SCGT will allow.
" Still no Rotbringers, I just want to know Glott's cost "
Go over to /tg/ and ask. Guy is taking requests and uploading them slowly. iirc glottkin is something like 460 and all the maggoth lords are 260.
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EDIT BY BEN. Please don't post photos from the books in here.
The odd pic here and thre would probably have been ok but posting the whole book into one place is only going to attract unwanted attention.
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We've heard rumors about 1. Army traits, 2. Artefacts, and 3. Warlord-trait style things for the general. How many of these are in matched play? Are any of them only victory bonuses?
Any word on forge world unit points?
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6 minutes ago, Nico said:
The return of the Hellcannon will be greeted by joy from all comers....
The hellcannon has always been legal
He also posted that 3 varanguard are 360pts, I haven't been keeping up with the small stuff.
Anyone who wants to beg for more pics/info should head over to the Age of Sigmar general on http://boards.4chan.org/tg/catalog that's where the leaker has been posting to. He hasn't been super active today but it'll do you way more good than posting here since he is remaining anonymous.
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Update: summoning isn't that bad
" have confirmed that summoning works as I said yesterday. You pay points only for bringing new units to battlefield so undead are safe with their standards returning models previously slain in battle.
Deep striking units are same as now.
Rules like phoenix returning on a 4+ work as written, you dont pay summon points for bringing it back to life, its part of model cost you pay at the start.
In addition to new Sylvaneth units there are also new units for orks and some renamed units for ogres in new yet unrevealed battletome"- 2
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Points costs getting leaked:
" Prime 360
Judicators 160pts per 5
Liberators 100pts per 5
vexillor 200pts
heraldor 120pts
venator 120pts
Celestant /on dracoth 100/220
Prosecutors hammers/javelins 100/80pts per 3models
Retributors 220 per 5
Stardrake 500/600pts
Drake cav 240pts per 2 models with concussors as exception at 280Nagash is 900
Archaon is 700Arielle is 620
New unit names are Tree Revenants and one other type of Revenants 100 pts/5 both
and Kurnoth Hunters (or something like that) 180pts/3Kairos 300
Lord of Change 260
Great Unclean 240
Skarbrand 400
Bloodthirsters 280-360 depending on version
Verminlord 300
Keeper of Secrets 280"NO POINTS or battlefield roles for any forge world units in the book.
Plus ironjaws pic attatched got posted.
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In addition to the above pic, here are the rest of the rumors so far courtesy of /tg/:
"All units have an assigned role.
Leader, Battleline, Behemoth, Artillery, no role.
Depending on points you play you are required/limited on number of units of each type you can take. Lets say we play 1000pts battle.
In that case you are required to take
2+ Battleline units
1-4 Leaders
0-2 Behemoths
0-2 Artillery
Any number of no role units
Some units have both types so they take up both slots at once.
Some units can become battleline if you take specific leaderSomehow I missed the part about summoning while taking photos but as far as I remember it works along the lines:
We play 1000 pts battle
You can decide to spent any of those points on summoning. So lets say you take 700 points on field and 300 points are "held in reserve: as summoning.
You summon any unit within said 300 points limit later in game. Points are used for summon so no recycling.Armies build entirely of one Alliance are given extra rule. Generals can take 1 extra ability out of 6 predefined ones. Also there are 6 artefacts that can be taken by heroes at no additional cost.
Each alliance has its own set of
1 Battle Trait
6 Command Traits for your general
6 Artefacts that "any (non-unique) hero can be given one..."
Battle traits are
Death: For each wount or mortal wound suffered by DEATH unit within your army that is within 10" of your General or another Hero from your army, roll a die. On a 6 or more the wound is negated.
Destruction: Roll a dice in your hero phase for each unit from your army that is within 6" of General or another Hero from your army. The unit can move a number of inches equal to the dice roll, as if it were movement phase, but cannot run. This does not affect their ability to move again later in the turn.Chaos: Roll a dice when you pick a Chaos unit to attack in combat that is within 8" of general or other your hero. On a roll of 6 you can add 1 to all hit rolls for the unit in that phase.
Order: You can re-roll battleshock tests (in battleshock phase) for friendly Order units that are within 12" of general or other hero in your army.(order artifacts. chose one, no roll)
1. Attack in combat before anyone else (one use potion)
2. Improve Rend by 1, not for mounts
3. +1 Damage for one weapon
4. -1 to To Hit for enemies you wounded (for rest of battle)
5. Once per battle -1 to Hit for all enemies agains model with this artefact
6. Heal 1 wound in each of your hero phases. "- 7
I have the Generals Handbook. Ask Me Anything.
in Age of Sigmar Discussions
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Of course, and when a path to glory unit is from 150-250 points equivalent (even lower for characters), the small imbalances could be pretty easily forgiven. But when forces can consistantly be 2k points of stormcast to 800 points of sylvaneth that's not really justifiable. I talked to my local redshirt and he was pretty floored by it and said we'd adjust some of it if we run path to glory at our store.